Bad Word Filters are Activated

[Greg]

Some of you might have noticed that I've activated a "bad" word filter on the site.

I've only got a few bad words on the filter - I need to do some brain storming to come up with some more... so the list will slowly grow as I add to the list.

In the past, I've avoided implementing this type of filter because I figured we'd all be adults and there would be no need for such restrictions.

But here we are!

Note: the filter will ONLY filter posts going forward (i.e new posts). So any past post that contains a "bad" word will remain.

Any issues or questions, post them below!

[TreeBeard]

This forum needs a vile ideas filter….

[Greg]

40 minutes ago, Greg said:

Note: the filter will ONLY filter posts going forward (i.e new posts). So any past post that contains a "bad" word will remain.

I should note that if you try to quote an older post that contains a "bad" word, the filter will flag your posting, but again, because the original post was made BEFORE the filter was activated, it will remain.

 

[Greg]

Just now, TreeBeard said:

This forum needs a vile ideas filter….

That's your job. 

If you find a vile idea, counter it reasonable and respective arguments.

Your ideas and argument will be heightened, while the vile ideas will be publicly discredited.

[Michael Hardner]

42 minutes ago, Greg said:

That's your job. 

If you find a vile idea, counter it reasonable and respective arguments.

Your ideas and argument will be heightened, while the vile ideas will be publicly discredited.

This doesn't work for gay porn though.

There's certain types of vileness not allowed:

1) Holocaust denial -> forum members, please counter with arguments but treat the poster with due respect

2) Gay guys having sex -> free speech should never offend people

 

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Am I wrong? 

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[TreeBeard]

20 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Gay guys having sex -> free speech should never offend people

Can you clarify if you’re talking about graphic pictures?  Descriptions?  
 

What is the context of the inconsistency?

Edited August 15, 2022 by TreeBeard

[Michael Hardner]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

Can you clarify if you’re talking about graphic pictures?  Descriptions?  
 

What is the context?

I'm just being cheeky ☺️

[TreeBeard]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I'm just being cheeky ☺️

So there’s no inconsistency that you’re alluding to?   You just felt like saying something?

Edited August 15, 2022 by TreeBeard

[TreeBeard]

2 hours ago, Greg said:

I should note that if you try to quote an older post that contains a "bad" word, the filter will flag your posting, but again, because the original post was made BEFORE the filter was activated, it will remain.

 

Why was a bad word filter necessary?

[Greg]

9 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Why was a bad word filter necessary?

It's an attempt to remind members who are quick to use insults towards other members to rethink the words they're using in their discussions.

If it doesn't work, I'll remove the feature.

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

So there’s no inconsistency that you’re alluding to?   You just felt like saying something?

Correct 

[herbie]

It's 2022 and 1963 era filters simply blocking words that are now vernacular is a bit silly.
Invision & PhpBB devs need to modernize the built in filters with AI that determines what the words are being used for. I don't filter talk like that, nor you in normal conversation. We all use those words for emphasis as there's no spoken exclamation mark. They no longer even have shock value.

Starring them out and reposting seems childish.

[Greg]

On 8/15/2022 at 10:10 PM, herbie said:

Starring them out and reposting seems childish.

Probably less childish than trying to structure a serious argument with cuss words in it. Or perhaps less childish than some members getting all bent out of shape cause someone called them a nasty word...

Hey, I agree with you @herbie, I resisted the push the ban words for over 22 years - that's quite an effort!

But alas, here we are... I've got members filing reports because someone used a bad word, or insulted them with a specific word.  

This is just a simple attempt to limit the amount of reports I get over simple insults and or certain words being used.

If it doesn't work, and everyone hates it, I'll remove it.

[herbie]

I admit to going over the top, but with using those words directed at someone, not the words themselves. And I'm only annoyed using them as posts like F*** Trudeau or F*** Biden as those are simplistic, mere wastes of bandwidth and contribute nothing.
But banning words the Scot and Irish Uncles sue around the dinner table, heard on regularly on TV and one's I've used myself when public speaking seems over the top.
Judgemental to 1960 standards by the makers of these forum programs. I'm more familiar with PhpBB that automatically replaces the words in a banned list if you click submit.

[herbie]

OMG m-o-r-o-n is a "bad word"?

[Yzermandius19]

On 8/15/2022 at 3:17 PM, Greg said:

Some of you might have noticed that I've activated a "bad" word filter on the site.

I've only got a few bad words on the filter - I need to do some brain storming to come up with some more... so the list will slowly grow as I add to the list.

In the past, I've avoided implementing this type of filter because I figured we'd all be adults and there would be no need for such restrictions.

But here we are!

Note: the filter will ONLY filter posts going forward (i.e new posts). So any past post that contains a "bad" word will remain.

Any issues or questions, post them below!

this is the stupidest idea

a forum ruining idea

Canadian nanny state run amok

Edited September 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

On 8/18/2022 at 5:38 PM, herbie said:

OMG m-o-r-o-n is a "bad word"?

unbelievable ridiculous over the top censorship that should be reviled by any sane person

[Yzermandius19]

On 8/15/2022 at 6:15 PM, Greg said:

It's an attempt to remind members who are quick to use insults towards other members to rethink the words they're using in their discussions.

If it doesn't work, I'll remove the feature.

remove the feature

this is insane

bad word filter

what a joke

Edited September 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Greg]

8 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Canadian nanny state run amok

Are you being helpful here? 

You've already expressed your opinion, I've acknowledge that.

What's the point of beating the dead horse?

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Greg said:

Are you being helpful here? 

You've already expressed your opinion, I've acknowledge that.

What's the point of beating the dead horse?

because it's so egregious it deserves a thorough beating

outrageous

if you want me off the forum

keep doing things like this

and I will bail

Edited September 9, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Greg]

So you admit you're not being helpful?

"Outrageous" - you seriously need to rethink your perspectives.

[I am Groot]

I don't mind the bad word filter so much as the lack of information about what the bad word is. I usually get in trouble over various uses of 'idi0t' or 'm0ron', though I don't direct such words at specific people. Is there a reason why there's no highlighting?

Edited March 4, 2023 by I am Groot

[cannuck]

I wander back here from time to time, and when I do I usually reply to something, maybe a little careless with language - and get presented with a screen that asks to remove the highlighted words - except the WHOLE POST is in one box in brown colour and the black and white text of same appears below with NO HIGHLIGHTING at all.

Far too frustrating to waste time on.

[Greg]

This is the first I've heard of this issue...

Do you have a screenshot. Do you know what word was causing this issue?

[cannuck]

Sorry did not save screen.   Has happened MANY times.   You see a quoted window of the post in brown text with the explanation of highlighted text needs to be corrected, but it shows 100% of the text in highlight.   So, impossible to tell WHAT was tripping the intervention.