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[August1991]

Alexander Hamilton!

Didn't see the Broadway show. Rap. Americans....

Edited July 23, 2022 by August1991

[Army Guy]

12 hours ago, August1991 said:

True? Not at all.

I prefer my Protestant/Catholic interpretation of US and Canada. (Americans are tight-assed protestants while Canadians are easy-confession Catholics.)

But here's another difference: money.

Canada's first central bank was created in 1935. Before then, Canada's "central bank" was privately owned.

Canada has no equivalent of the SEC and federally chartered banks have no reserve requirement.

Yet, Canada has had no recent bank failures (excepting Confederation Life). And we've generally avoided the boom/bust of American financial markets - except for its effects on our macroeconomy and when the Caisse buys ABCP.

Well, the media seems to disagree with you, and if you had read my post i think you would as well. 

You can not compare Americans to Canadians there are no similarities at all.  Americans rarely acknowledge our existence, except when we are just being retards, they also don't really care about what Canadians do or what they think about them. That's just us thinking we are more important than we truly are. 

We have been extremely lucky not to have a meltdown like the US, yes our economies are run slightly different, but don't think for a minute it was due to Canadian skill, or expertise, but rather sheer luck. And we did not survive unscathed either. And now that we are in much different times we will see if your so-called skill will save us again or is it our time to get unlucky.  

 

[August1991]

On 7/17/2022 at 5:31 PM, Army Guy said:

Lets put that into perspective BUD's, there are 3 parties....

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He is the most hated politician in Canada...in the western world. 

Army Guy, that post?

So you hate Trudeau Jnr, the federal Liberals.

AG, are you Protestant/White-skinned/Catholic/Gay/Left-handed?

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What strikes me at present is that Canadians are not divided on language. (I remember the 1970s.)

Our first federal Catholic PM was elected in the 1890s - John Thompson. 

Our first federal francophone PM was Laurier.

Many Canadians are wiling to vote across the divide. Remarkably, many Catholics vote for a Protestant MP and many Anglophones voted for a French-speaking candidate.

But reaching further back, to the 18th century, we compromised and got along.

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Elsewhere in the world, this is referred to as sectarian (Ireland) or communal (India/Sri Lanka) disputes. In the US, it was a Civil War.

in Canada, we have a functioning bilingual federal state with no official culture - and we have avoided all this violence. Even Argentina didn't do that! 

Edited July 25, 2022 by August1991

[Army Guy]

I don't hate Justin or the liberals, hate is too strong of a word for a person or group i do not know personally. I dislike him and the liberals a lot, but do not hate him. 

Yes, I am a white Protestant, straight, right-handed man, not sure what that has to do with the topic, but since we are throwing around assumptions let's assume you are a  French white catholic male, who is left-handed and drinks Pepsi, and enjoys farting in the bubble bath.

Not sure why you are dragging in language or religion as i did not bring up the topic to my knowledge. Our country is very divided in dozens of areas, but not to any great extent on religion, and as for language pretty much the entire country really does not care what Quebec does in regards to language or any other matter really except separation.

And the last para, not sure where to start, or what your point is, but today's world is more fucked up than ever before, our country is deeply divided into most topics.

And we as a nation has escaped the massive upheaval due to luck, take the referendum vote for Quebec to separate, The federal government knew it was going to be close, so close in fact Mr. Chretien had put military units on high alert, in case the vote did not go his way... 5 th brigade ( QUE) was in New York state on exercise,, and F-18 (QUE) were sent to the US for training as well once on the ground those Aircraft were seized by US forces... this was all due to the fact the separatists were actively recruiting french soldiers to join the new Quebec military, and a good percentage agreed.  How do you think all of that would have played out... with English military units inside of Quebec denying them their referendum vote. not very well I think...how do you think OKA would have played out if the military had to use deadly force to end that occupation, do you think Native Americans across the country would have done nothing...

 

[myata]

Conservatives have a rare opportunity to come as owners and agents of real, meaningful change that the country is needing desperately. The outdated to the point of archaic political system is in a clear state of stagnation going on decay. Will they choose the country over the trough? Can they, and that means any of the status quo entities lead real change? That's an interesting one to watch. No change no vote. Triple Justin, the bureaucratic behemoth forever is one and the same thing. Nothing to choose, really. Not even fun.

[August1991]

On 7/25/2022 at 9:20 AM, Army Guy said:

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Yes, I am a white Protestant, straight, right-handed man, not sure what that has to do with the topic..

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And in the 1890s, you voted for John Thompson - a Catholic.

 

 

[Army Guy]

16 hours ago, August1991 said:

 

And yet today I would vote for a Jewish, gay, black man, with purple arms and bright orange legs if it meant we could retire Justin. 

[WestCanMan]

On 7/25/2022 at 3:59 AM, August1991 said:

Our first federal Catholic PM was elected in the 1890s - John Thompson. 

Our first federal francophone PM was Laurier.

Many Canadians are wiling to vote across the divide. Remarkably, many Catholics vote for a Protestant MP and many Anglophones voted for a French-speaking candidate.

I don't think Canadians care much about religion at election time, but I could be wrong. 

Aside from Jagmeet Singh, who wraps his religion around his head, I couldn't tell you the religion of any of our politicians.

I know that Trudeau in nominally a RC, but I only know that because he testified to be a muslim and then stated publicly that he was RC.

[August1991]

On 7/29/2022 at 5:53 PM, WestCanMan said:

I don't think Canadians care much about religion at election time, but I could be wrong. 

Aside from Jagmeet Singh, who wraps his religion around his head, I couldn't tell you the religion of any of our politicians.

I know that Trudeau in nominally a RC, but I only know that because he testified to be a muslim and then stated publicly that he was RC.

In the past, it was religion. Now, it is "culture".

I was recently in New Hampshire. When in a Starbucks in Concord, I looked around and knew almost everyone voted Democrat. When in the State Park, I looked around and knew almost every fellow camper not driving a Subaru voted Republican. (Does NH have conceal carry?) 

Canada? We are a country where many Starbucks/Mac owners vote Harper/Bernier. But many Pick-up owners vote Trudeau.

Why is Canada like this? I reckon that - because of language and religion in families - we understand that we have to get along. 

Edited July 30, 2022 by August1991

[August1991]

On 7/29/2022 at 5:53 PM, WestCanMan said:

I don't think Canadians care much about religion at election time, but I could be wrong. 

I refer to Montreal as the "Big Easy North".

Catholics have confession. They speak to God through a priest.

Protestants have a conscience. They speak to God directly.

 

[Dougie93]

11 hours ago, August1991 said:

Why is Canada like this? I reckon that - because of language and religion in families - we understand that we have to get along. 

I think you're living in the past

Canada is now divided exactly along the same lines as America

the Liberals have adopted the Democrat party platform exactly

this is inciting the Conservatives to turn to Republican style populism

the American monoculture has washed over the ramparts

Canada is now engaged in a divide & conquer internal conflict

exactly mimicking the Americans down to the smallest detail

this is why Americans are paying more attention to Canada than they ever have before

the Americans have noticed that Canadians are picking sides in the American civil conflict

[Michael Hardner]

On 7/14/2022 at 11:35 AM, WestCanMan said:

I just brought the Trudeau Hatemongering thread back up to the top. It's full of examples of you supporting Trudeau's hatemongering against unvaccinated people, and pretending that there actually were swastikas and confederate flags everywhere at the Freedom Convoy. 

@WestCanMan any cites yet?

Or is this more of your "common knowledge" ?

I'm going to add you back to the IGNORE crypt soon, however I'll leave it so you can DM me once you find the cite.

So I can apologize.

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

@WestCanMan any cites yet?

Or is this more of your "common knowledge" ?

I'm going to add you back to the IGNORE crypt soon, however I'll leave it so you can DM me once you find the cite.

So I can apologize.

It's coming. Thanks for the refresh.

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

@WestCanMan any cites yet?

Or is this more of your "common knowledge" ?

I'm going to add you back to the IGNORE crypt soon, however I'll leave it so you can DM me once you find the cite.

So I can apologize.

You had almost a full year to think of a response... and that was your best?

Yeash.  I think the left is getting a little upset at how PP's doing in the polls these days  

[Michael Hardner]

35 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

1. You had almost a full year to think of a response... and that was your best?

2. Yeash.  I think the left is getting a little upset at how PP's doing in the polls these days  

1. You've got it backwards.  WCM is saying that I stated certain things and I am trying to help him find the post.  That's why he thanked me.

2. He's soaring into minority government status now.  That means if he wins, he'll have to pair with the Bloc, which means Quebec keeps their CBC...

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. You've got it backwards.  WCM is saying that I stated certain things and I am trying to help him find the post.  That's why he thanked me.

It didn't SEEM like he actually found it all that helpful but maybe i'm wrong  

35 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. He's soaring into minority government status now.  That means if he wins, he'll have to pair with the Bloc, which means Quebec keeps their CBC...

Quebec will keep some cbc services regardless i suspect. And some cbc radio will survive on it's own - but the rest of the cbc will be gone.  Otherwise he'll just toss a few grants to some quebec specific news or radio stuff that's local and be done with it.

But - he went from looking like opposition in a liberal gov't to strong minority gov't and he's still gaining strength as he goes. And trudeau is still losing strenght. PP is about 3 points from being in majority territory. You can do that much in a decent campaign.

So the libs are obviously getting concerned about what'll happen in the next year.  PP is no scheer - he's going to run a solid campaign. He's organized like that. So if he goes up even one or two points. before an election it could be a minority for them. And then wipes out most of the cbc, with the star already fading, and throws some advert dollars to the sun, national post and a few others...  The libs could be back in the doldrums for another decade or more.

[TreeBeard]

43 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. He's soaring into minority government status now.  That means if he wins, he'll have to pair with the Bloc, which means Quebec keeps their CBC...

Imagine teaming up with separatists to govern the country. Can you see PP actually doing that?

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

Imagine teaming up with separatists to govern the country. Can you see PP actually doing that?

For sure. Not the first time in history by a long shot, nor would it be for the Liberals for that matter.  But the bloc is actually more closely aligned to the CPC's way of thinking. THe CPC is all about local provincial powers.  THe bloc wouldn't do a ways and means deal like the ndp did but they would consider things on a case by case.

Frankly its not impossible to bully the others into supporting various bills either. Harper got a LOT done in minority gov'ts without any kind of deal. Remember upon losing the libs always fire their guy and it's a safe bet this is jagger's last kick at the can if he doesn't perform better. So nobody's going to be eager to go to the polls in hte first year or so.

BTW - where's that cite you promised me about the 'rules'?

[Michael Hardner]

6 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Imagine teaming up with separatists to govern the country. Can you see PP actually doing that?

To be PM?  Sure.  Nobody should expect otherwise.

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

To be PM?  Sure.  Nobody should expect otherwise.

That would be a short tenure.  And probably be seen as a betrayal in the prairies. 

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

. And then wipes out most of the cbc, with the star already fading, and throws some advert dollars to the sun, national post and a few others...  The libs could be back in the doldrums for another decade or more.

Post media already gets millions from the government directly.

[TreeBeard]

No other political party has ever formed a coalition government with separatists…

[Michael Hardner]

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

That would be a short tenure.  And probably be seen as a betrayal in the prairies. 

To my credit I actually try to Google this question but couldn't find a clear answer... Did not Harper vote with the bloc?

[TreeBeard]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

To my credit I actually try to Google this question but couldn't find a clear answer... Did not Harper vote with the bloc?

votes on a bill are one thing   Forming a coalition government is something entirely different.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Post media already gets millions from the government directly.

I suspect most of that will end. 

1 hour ago, TreeBeard said:

That would be a short tenure.  And probably be seen as a betrayal in the prairies. 

Hogwash.  Doing a ways and means would be but deal by deal? That's happened before plenty