Is a Free Canada in the World's Interest?

[Aristides]

21 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I think the difference is that those donating to the trucker protest face a very real danger of being doxxed or even losing their jobs because of it. Anyone that donates to Antifa , BLM or any kind of radical protests typical of leftists face no risk in doing so.

Not true, their employers may think otherwise. Do anything that makes your employer think you have made their company look bad and you could be out of a job.

Edited February 17, 2022 by Aristides

[Zeitgeist]

8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Not true, their employers may think otherwise. Do anything that makes your employer think you have made their company look bad and you could be out of a job.

What kind of fearful spineless society do you want us to live in, where people are fired for opposing a vaccine mandate?   Canadians aren’t into this kind of petty grovelling set-up.  Trudeau is so done.

Edited February 17, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Like I asked you before, how would you feel if it was an Indigenous protest blocking a pipeline or something,  and the protestors were being funded by individual Chinese donors?  

I think this is my third time asking and you keep dodging the question.  

It may seem to you like you're drawing a parallel but you're not.

What you're insinuating is that the FN people would feel like they have a legitimate grievance and some foreign influencers would just support them to help them harm our country economically. 

Don't forget that our own PM supported BLM by taking a knee at a BLM protest at a time when BLM was destroying communities. Our PM also tole the Indian gov't that they should go to the table with their farmers who were protesting. Did Canadians donate to Kamala Harris's "bail out rioters" fund? Of course. If we said that foreigners couldn't interfere here we'd be huge hypocrites. 

If FN people had a legitimate grievance and really needed money then I wouldn't begrudge anyone who helped them, as long they were realistically affected by the protests themselves. People in North America on both sides of the border are in this exact same boat with these protests. 

In the case of the pipelines it's not usually a "legitimate grievance of a native band" that's holding things back either. For example, in the case of an LNG pipeline here in BC, all of the elected leaders were unanimous in their support and then suddenly 1 hereditary chief backed out and held things up unilaterally. 

It seems like all that someone has to do if they want to shut down a pipeline in Canada is find a chief who wants a big fishin' boat. 

[Aristides]

8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

What kind of fearful spineless society do you want us to live in, where people are fired for opposing a vaccine mandate?   Canadians aren’t into this kind of petty grovelling set-up.  Trudeau is so done.

This is nothing new, employers have always had the right to and indeed have fired employees who have made their companies look bad. This isn't about vaccine mandates, it's about the occupation.

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, ironstone said:

I think the difference is that those donating to the trucker protest face a very real danger of being doxxed or even losing their jobs because of it. Anyone that donates to Antifa , BLM or any kind of radical protests typical of leftists face no risk in doing so.

I wouldn't recommend any company in Canada go against the trucker convoy. They're a huge part of the labour force and they have a lot of support from outside.

It could be economic suicide to declare that, as a company, you stand against them. 

[Moonlight Graham]

STFU AND TAKE THIS MEDICINE DOWN YOUR THROAT Y'ALL.

[ironstone]

22 hours ago, Aristides said:

Not true, their employers may think otherwise. Do anything that makes your employer think you have made their company look bad and you could be out of a job.

Thankfully for Canadians Antifa and BLM haven't been anywhere near as violent here as they have been in the US which is where those radical organizations are based. I don't know about the extent of funding to Antifa but BLM has been given an enormous amount of donations from major corporations to small individual donors. I'm not aware of any government going after all those that have donated to BLM.

The trucker protest is not terrorist activity. It's not what they are doing, it's more so who are the one's doing it. Conservative slanted protests are extremely rare compared to what the left does on a regular basis.

[Army Guy]

On 2/16/2022 at 8:12 PM, TreeBeard said:

So you have no issues with old ladies in California donating to environmental causes in Alberta then?

No not at all, why should anyone get worked up about it, the federal government has done nothing to protect our oil and gas industry from influence from Americans with large interests in the oil and gas industry....who flood not millions but billions, the only ones doing something or atleast trying is Alberta, and Saskatchewan premiers..as for the rest of Canadians it is below them to even comment about it, it does not interfere with hockey or the beer store...

[TreeBeard]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

No not at all, why should anyone get worked up about it, the federal government has done nothing to protect our oil and gas industry from influence from Americans with large interests in the oil and gas industry....who flood not millions but billions, the only ones doing something or atleast trying is Alberta, and Saskatchewan premiers..as for the rest of Canadians it is below them to even comment about it, it does not interfere with hockey or the beer store...

Do you think yours is a popular opinion among conservatives?

[Army Guy]

11 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Do you think yours is a popular opinion among conservatives?

Im going out on a limb and say yes, American interference in our oil and gas lumber sectors has been going on for years, maybe you can point me to where the Liberal government has done anything to counter this ? Is it an issue to the ROC , no not really, between American interference and climate change there are not a lot of Canadians that really care in fact some will agree the sooner it dies the better...Do you think that protecting our oil and gas sectors are a liberal priority, or for that matter a liberal voters priority... we pay billions of dollars importing Saudi oil every year, but some how can't run a pipeline to the east so they can burn Canadian oil....and support our own...tell me that is a liberal party objective, let alone a liberal voters idea.

[Zeitgeist]

21 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

Im going out on a limb and say yes, American interference in our oil and gas lumber sectors has been going on for years, maybe you can point me to where the Liberal government has done anything to counter this ? Is it an issue to the ROC , no not really, between American interference and climate change there are not a lot of Canadians that really care in fact some will agree the sooner it dies the better...Do you think that protecting our oil and gas sectors are a liberal priority, or for that matter a liberal voters priority... we pay billions of dollars importing Saudi oil every year, but some how can't run a pipeline to the east so they can burn Canadian oil....and support our own...tell me that is a liberal party objective, let alone a liberal voters idea.

Whenever we have protests the Americans get involved. However, when it’s the Sierra Club, Greenpeace, or an international organization that’s ideologically aligned with Trudeau’s government, that’s just fine.  Two different rules of law exist in Trudeau’s Canada, one for his supporters and another for the opposition, who are terrorists, racists, or some other “unacceptable” label.  Once you make a group unacceptable through public vilification, that signals the state-run media to follow suit.  The unacceptable don’t have the same rights as other Canadians.  This is also what happens when we suspend Charter rights and create two tiers of citizens, as we have done with vaccine mandates and digital passports, which are grossly unconstitutional.

Edited February 18, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Faramir]

22 hours ago, ironstone said:

Thankfully for Canadians Antifa and BLM haven't been anywhere near as violent here as they have been in the US which is where those radical organizations are based. I don't know about the extent of funding to Antifa but BLM has been given an enormous amount of donations from major corporations to small individual donors. I'm not aware of any government going after all those that have donated to BLM.

The trucker protest is not terrorist activity. It's not what they are doing, it's more so who are the one's doing it. Conservative slanted protests are extremely rare compared to what the left does on a regular basis.

I agree that BLM and ANTIFA are violent left wing factions.  As for the media, the media has an agenda plain and simple.  It colours how they cover the news and what they cover