CTV & Global News are Pure Filth, CBC Needs to be Defunded

[Faramir]

The media is not some special protected class or at least should not be.  We all are entrusted with the the right of free expression equally.  The media should live and die by their ideas like everyone else, and not be on the taxpayer teats.  

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

1. Worst advice ever. The headlines are the biggest problem.

2.Demanding media accountability is step 1.

 

1. Well then don't look at TV at all.
2. I would say that you should demand that you know how your news organization is funded, and who is providing the information.  They should also have a history of posting corrections and retractions when wrong and separation of editorial and news.

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well then don't look at TV at all.

No, just stay away from sources like the 3 main broadcasters here which have little or no interest in facts and integrity.

Going on the internet is the exact same. Disinformation is rampant, and in the case of social media it's often put there to discredit people.

For example, the day after the old lady was run over by the horse, people were posting that she died all over the place. I thought it unlikely, so I didn't spread that info, but I saw a couple of people on my own FB feed that got sucked in.

Then when CBC couldn't avoid the topic of the lady being trampled, they acted like a bigger story was that there was disinformation on social media. Gee, I wonder how that got there.....

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2. I would say that you should demand that you know how your news organization is funded, and who is providing the information.  They should also have a history of posting corrections and retractions when wrong and separation of editorial and news.

Again, not really.

Broadcasters shouldn't be in the habit of lying and then retracting.

Look at WashPo's retractions. They can headline Nick Sandman for a day or two and then just do a page 3 retraction. Is that really a retraction? 

No, not at all.

If your paper runs 2 inch high font on the headlines on the front paper and it's incorrect then an appropriate retraction is 2 inch high font on the headlines on P1.

Here's the deal about retractions.

When news is fresh and compelling there's a lot of emotion with it, which triggers the amygdala, which means that you're going to form a lasting memory from it. Assigning blame at that point is critical for propagandists.

Did the kid go and smirk in the face of a native American who was beating on his drum, which is one of his most sacred rights and traditions? HELL YEAH, 2-INCH FONT BABY! MAGA HAT DOUCHEBAG! TRUMP IS TURNING KIDS INTO RACIST HELLIANTS! Small retraction to come later. 

 

CBC: "Is the guy on the ground in Ottawa getting beaten up because he was part of the Freedom Convoy, which Trudeau ignored, demonized, trampled with horses and then sicced his shock troops on? Damn, we can't show it like that, what about saying that he was getting beaten up because he resisted arrest? Damn, contradictory footage is already out. We can't have negative emotions like that associated with our PM, so we'll just avoid that story like the plague. Don't worry, CTV and Global won't show it either, and the guy who shot the video has been arrested, so he won't have the balls to show it. If by some chance guys like @eyeball are presented with video footage from a source outside of the 3 main propaganda networks here, they will ignore it anyways. They will never be able to process what they're seeing because they're already conditioned to believe us, to ignore everything else, and we've ingrained a love of Golden Boy in them that's so strong it makes their mom seem like a mere peasant doing their laundry. Problem solved." 

[Michael Hardner]

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1.  If your paper runs 2 inch high font on the headlines on the front paper and it's incorrect then an appropriate retraction is 2 inch high font on the headlines on P1.

2. If by some chance guys like @eyeball are presented with video footage from a source outside of the 3 main propaganda networks here, they will ignore it anyways.

1.  Still - does the PostMillennial or Rebel issue them ?  
2. 'Footage' was only a part of news in the last 50 years.  I prefer to hear peoples' thoughts.  That's why I get most news on these pages.

Pictures lie.

[Moonbox]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It might seem silly to you, but it's the truth. Even if you want to mke the argument that my comment was too broad, the most recent posts by you, MH and eyeball all serve to substantiate my claim. 

Calling your opinions "truth" don't make them so.  You seem to be under the impression that if you invoke the words enough, your posts someone become more credible. 

"I speak factual truths and my facts are truthful and yours are not" ?

[WestCanMan]

19 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Calling your opinions "truth" don't make them so.  You seem to be under the impression that if you invoke the words enough, your posts someone become more credible. 

"I speak factual truths and my facts are truthful and yours are not" ?

The credibility of my posts isn't measured by my ultra-modest boasts, or by how butt-hurt you get from the facts that I present to you, it's measured by your inability to discredit any of my facts and cites directly. 

[Faramir]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

No, just stay away from sources like the 3 main broadcasters here which have little or no interest in facts and integrity.

Going on the internet is the exact same. Disinformation is rampant, and in the case of social media it's often put there to discredit people.

For example, the day after the old lady was run over by the horse, people were posting that she died all over the place. I thought it unlikely, so I didn't spread that info, but I saw a couple of people on my own FB feed that got sucked in.

Then when CBC couldn't avoid the topic of the lady being trampled, they acted like a bigger story was that there was disinformation on social media. Gee, I wonder how that got there.....

Again, not really.

Broadcasters shouldn't be in the habit of lying and then retracting.

Look at WashPo's retractions. They can headline Nick Sandman for a day or two and then just do a page 3 retraction. Is that really a retraction? 

No, not at all.

If your paper runs 2 inch high font on the headlines on the front paper and it's incorrect then an appropriate retraction is 2 inch high font on the headlines on P1.

Here's the deal about retractions.

When news is fresh and compelling there's a lot of emotion with it, which triggers the amygdala, which means that you're going to form a lasting memory from it. Assigning blame at that point is critical for propagandists.

Did the kid go and smirk in the face of a native American who was beating on his drum, which is one of his most sacred rights and traditions? HELL YEAH, 2-INCH FONT BABY! MAGA HAT DOUCHEBAG! TRUMP IS TURNING KIDS INTO RACIST HELLIANTS! Small retraction to come later. 

 

CBC: "Is the guy on the ground in Ottawa getting beaten up because he was part of the Freedom Convoy, which Trudeau ignored, demonized, trampled with horses and then sicced his shock troops on? Damn, we can't show it like that, what about saying that he was getting beaten up because he resisted arrest? Damn, contradictory footage is already out. We can't have negative emotions like that associated with our PM, so we'll just avoid that story like the plague. Don't worry, CTV and Global won't show it either, and the guy who shot the video has been arrested, so he won't have the balls to show it. If by some chance guys like @eyeball are presented with video footage from a source outside of the 3 main propaganda networks here, they will ignore it anyways. They will never be able to process what they're seeing because they're already conditioned to believe us, to ignore everything else, and we've ingrained a love of Golden Boy in them that's so strong it makes their mom seem like a mere peasant doing their laundry. Problem solved." 

That's the point.  The MSM is no better than the internet for accuracy and non-bias.  Myself, I pride myself in no longer watching network television.  For fun I love going to the Drudge Report.  Don't go there if you are suicidal.  But it's the best way to get the absolute worst news....we are all gonna die COVID news, and Hair on Fire the Russians are coming news.

[Moonbox]

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The credibility of my posts isn't measured by my ultra-modest boasts, or by how butt-hurt you get from the facts that I present to you, it's measured by your inability to discredit any of my facts and cites directly. 

Nobody gets butthurt by what you declare a "fact".  Like I said before, you don't even seem to understand what the word means and appear to think it's whatever opinion you hold strongly, as if you'll make something true by force of will or wishful thinking.    

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Nobody gets butthurt by what you declare a "fact".  Like I said before, you don't even seem to understand what the word means and appear to think it's whatever opinion you hold strongly, as if you'll make something true by force of will or wishful thinking.    

Again, there are plenty of posts here with facts and cites that you can cherry-pick from if you'd like to cast some doubt on this thread. instead you avoid factual debate on every single one of them like the plague. Begone, peasant. Your butthurtedness is only a measure of your thin skin. 

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Faramir said:

For fun I love going to the Drudge Report.  Don't go there if you are suicidal.  But it's the best way to get the absolute worst news....we are all gonna die COVID news, and Hair on Fire the Russians are coming news.

I've never read the drudge, but I heard that it used to be quite influential, and good. 

[Faramir]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I've never read the drudge, but I heard that it used to be quite influential, and good. 

Yeah I stopped with Drudge when it went full Democrat.  Then I decided to take a peak years later.  These guys are right up Biden's ass.  And they are part of the neo-con establishment desire to stoke war wherever it can.

[Moonbox]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

Again, there are plenty of posts here with facts and cites that you can cherry-pick from if you'd like to cast some doubt on this thread. instead you avoid factual debate on every single one of them like the plague. Begone, peasant. Your butthurtedness is only a measure of your thin skin. 

No.  That's the problem.  It would be easier for you to actually point out where your "facts" are and for me to refute them than to sift through your raving tantrums for small kernels of truth.  I can go through your OP and see that you posted almost nothing other than quotes from news articles followed by your outrage that they talked about things you didn't like. 

My favorite part was:

She's holding up a picture of him, his neck looks like a hot water bottle ffs. "No major health issues" lol. And 70 yrs old. Margaret Makins is dumb AF, and yet somehow she's CBC's posterchild for covid info....... Guess what CBC? Over 1,000 fully vaxxed people died of covid in the last 6 weeks. Did you cover that at all? Do you have any stories about vax-nazis who said: "The unvaxxed should be left to die if they get covid"? Of course not, but for sure they're out there.

Let's look at your logic here.  CBC publishes a story about an extremely old lady who's 70 year old unvaccinated son died of COVID-19, and you call her dumb AF because...what?  Because there's a picture of...what exactly?  I watched the video, I read the article.  What are you even talking about?  What picture and what claim did she make that shows she's "dumb AF"?  

Forget the utter lack of basic human decency you show here, what the hell are you even talking about!?    

1,000 vaccinated people died of COVID in the last 6 weeks?  Where? Around the world?  Canada?  How many unvaccinated people died?  The fact that CBC didn't write about that just means they didn't write about it.  Who are these vax-nazis?  Can you show us to them?  Quote them?  Can you explain why CBC has to report on them?  

The only facts here are that you're really upset that CBC and other news groups publish stories that you don't like, and don't just publish whatever bullshit you decide is important.  

[taxme]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Excuse me but beaten for surrendering?

In any case to get to the point simply tell us where it is in the clip.  I'm certainly not wasting my time looking for something that you think substantiates your interpretation of something Tucker Carlson interpreted. 

That is your big problem in life. You refuse to check out the other side of the story and what is being told. All you lefty's are losers. Come on, man, admit it will ya. ?

[taxme]

On 2/22/2022 at 1:08 PM, Moonbox said:

Speaking as someone who spent the majority of his last 12+ years posting on this site arguing against eyeball, I have to say that his opinions and arguments are at least grounded in rational reality.  Whatever ideological disagreements I have with him (which are many), the fact that he's not a deluded conspiracy clown means I have more in common with him than with you.  In a weird way, we have you guys to thank for (our) finding common ground (sanity).  

So, what do you have to say about the many trucker supporters who have now had their bank accounts frozen by smiling pro great reset WEF member Freeland because they donated some bucks to the truckers protest. Since when did donating to anything suddenly become a crime in Canada today?

I wonder if smiling Freeland would do the same thing to BLM or Antifa if they did the same thing as to what the truckers were doing? I say NOPE. They both would get a Freeland and Trudeau free pass and get out of jail free card. 

Two people that I have listened to on The Rebel have said that they have had their bank accounts frozen because the two of them donated some bucks to the freedom truck convoy. Both those people have a family and kids to have to feed and house and now they have no access to their money in their bank. We can see now that even the Canadian banks are in on this tyranny that is going on in Canada today. It appears as though every big institution in Canada is in on the gig. 

It is for dam sure that you and I have nothing in common alright. I am all in for freedom and you are all in for communism. It is thanks to lefties like you around that has now shown us all that Marxists like you do not believe in rights and freedoms. You believe in communist tyranny. We freedom lovers have now also found common ground ourselves. I never thought that there were so many freedom loving patriotic Canadians out there. Go, freedom lovers, go. Truck off, Trudeau. Honk-honk. ?

[taxme]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Well then don't look at TV at all.
2. I would say that you should demand that you know how your news organization is funded, and who is providing the information.  They should also have a history of posting corrections and retractions when wrong and separation of editorial and news.

So, tell me MH. Be up front with us here. Were you for or were you against this truckers convoy protest? Yes or no. Simple question, MH. Well? ?

[WestCanMan]

45 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

My favorite part was:

She's holding up a picture of him, his neck looks like a hot water bottle ffs. "No major health issues" lol. And 70 yrs old. Margaret Makins is dumb AF, and yet somehow she's CBC's posterchild for covid info....... Guess what CBC? Over 1,000 fully vaxxed people died of covid in the last 6 weeks. Did you cover that at all? Do you have any stories about vax-nazis who said: "The unvaxxed should be left to die if they get covid"? Of course not, but for sure they're out there.Let's look at your logic here.  CBC publishes a story about an extremely old lady who's 70 year old unvaccinated son died of COVID-19, and you call her dumb AF because...what?  Because there's a picture of...what exactly?  I watched the video, I read the article.  What are you even talking about?  What picture and what claim did she make that shows she's "dumb AF"?  

Forget the utter lack of basic human decency you show here, what the hell are you even talking about!?    

Do you honestly have no clue what's going on with that story?

It's covid fear porn.

"This healthy young man was stricken down by covid." Look at him. If I knew that guy I'd say "Bro, get the vax."

What stupid claim did she make? How about "The guy who was 70, and whose neck looked like a hot mater bottle, was healthy"?

I told my sister she should get the vax and she looks way healthier than that guy. My sister has been a smoker since she was a kid.

I don't think that the vax is totally useless, it's just not what it's cracked up to be by a long shot.

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1,000 vaccinated people died of COVID in the last 6 weeks?  Where? Around the world?  Canada?  How many unvaccinated people died? 

I post those stats here regularly. I just did it yesterday. 

In Canada there are about 1,023 unvaxxed that died since mid Dec and 1,045 dbl-vaxed plus about 838 triple vaxed. I'm just going off the top of my head right now, but those numbers are accurate enough to get the full picture. 

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The fact that CBC didn't write about that just means they didn't write about it.  Who are these vax-nazis?  Can you show us to them?  Quote them?  Can you explain why CBC has to report on them?  

The fact that they didn't write about it is normal because everything that they write about covid is geared to scaring people, not educating them.

If they were educating them they'd say that getting the vax is purely an act of generosity by healthy people under 40 because they are not at risk to die of covid. 

CBC should report on them because they're dividing the country with their idiotic demands on everyone else. If they're happy with the vaccines they should stfu and go about their business instead of trying to force other people to do it. And yeah, forcing people out of their jobs for not doing it is 'forcing people'. There's no way that healthy young people should take a chance with the vaccines because it doesn't save them and it doesn't stop them from spreading covid. 

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The only facts here are that you're really upset that CBC and other news groups publish stories that you don't like, and don't just publish whatever bullshit you decide is important.  

The only facts are that everything that I just said was 100% demonstrably true, and CBC is trying to pretend otherwise. 

You believe them. That's sad.

Would you think it's necessary to get your healthy 15 yr old grandson vaccinated to keep him safe from covid? To stop your healthy 39 yr old daughter from dying of covid? Or his healthy 55 yr old grandma? Or his 88 yr old GG? The correct answer is no to all 4.

The jab is just a choice for all 4, but the 55 yr old should probably get it and GG definitely should get it. But that's it. No force for anyone.

[taxme]

4 hours ago, Faramir said:

The media is not some special protected class or at least should not be.  We all are entrusted with the the right of free expression equally.  The media should live and die by their ideas like everyone else, and not be on the taxpayer teats.  

But when the medias boss is a tyrant like Trudeau is and who now owns the bought off Canadian media what else can those in the MSM do but march and preach and spread the lie of their bosses orders. We have no MSM freedom of the press in Canada anymore. They all have been pretty much bought off. 

Thank gawd that we still have the alternative media where we can get the other side of the story that the tyrant of Canada does not want us to hear or learn about. Right now, I can believe that with the help of this Emergency Marxist Act tyrant Trudeau could use it to silence and even shut down alternative media accusing them all of spreading dis and misinformation. After all, Tyrant globalist Trudeau is running scared now as we the peasants are starting to see as to what communism is all about. We can thank Trudeau for showing us all as to just how communism really works. We are seeing it in action today in Canada. Truck off, Trudeau. Honk-honk. ?

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Faramir said:

The media is not some special protected class or at least should not be.  We all are entrusted with the the right of free expression equally.  The media should live and die by their ideas like everyone else, and not be on the taxpayer teats.  

Theoretically protecting them should be really important, but they're definitely not giving us any reasons in real life.

 

[Nexii]

National Post's coverage of the Freedom Convoy & Emergency Act wasn't so bad

[taxme]

On 2/22/2022 at 1:08 PM, Moonbox said:

Speaking as someone who spent the majority of his last 12+ years posting on this site arguing against eyeball, I have to say that his opinions and arguments are at least grounded in rational reality.  Whatever ideological disagreements I have with him (which are many), the fact that he's not a deluded conspiracy clown means I have more in common with him than with you.  In a weird way, we have you guys to thank for (our) finding common ground (sanity).  

I also want to thank all you leftist liberals like you out there for showing us all that a communist great reset conspiracy in Canada was on the move in Canada, and that half of Trudeau's cabinet is full of World Economic Forum members, and that Klaus Schwab is their great reset dear globalist leader. I would never have known all of this if it were not for the alternative media where one truly does get the other side of the story. Thanks comrade. LOL. 

[taxme]

20 minutes ago, Nexii said:

National Post's coverage of the Freedom Convoy & Emergency Act wasn't so bad

The alternative media websites like Rebel NEWS and FOX NEWS were also much appreciated for their involvement in trying to get out the other side of the story about what was really going on with and against this truckers convoy. Thanks to those two websites, I would not have known and found out anything about the other side of the story and what this truckers protest convoy was all about.

Thank gawd that we still have alternative media websites available to go to, for now. As far as I am concerned, Canada went communist the day the Emergency Marxist Act was introduced and enforced. I am now just waiting for the hammer and sickle flag to be hoisted up the flag pole on parliament "ILL". I cannot wait to see that happen. LOL.

[Moonbox]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

So, what do you have to say about the many trucker supporters who have now had their bank accounts frozen by smiling pro great reset WEF member Freeland because they donated some bucks to the truckers protest. Since when did donating to anything suddenly become a crime in Canada today?

I don't really have much of anything to say about Freeland or the WEF, nor about your silly conspiracy theories regarding them.  

16 minutes ago, taxme said:

I also want to thank all you leftist liberals like you out there for showing us all that a communist great reset conspiracy in Canada was on the move in Canada, and that half of Trudeau's cabinet is full of World Economic Forum members, and that Klaus Schwab is their great reset dear globalist leader. I would never have known all of this if it were not for the alternative media where one truly does get the other side of the story. Thanks comrade. LOL. 

Yes now you have a big scary bogeyman under your bed to ramble about.  ?  

[taxme]

9 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I don't really have much of anything to say about Freeland or the WEF, nor about your silly conspiracy theories regarding them.  

Yes now you have a big scary bogeyman under your bed to ramble about.  ?  

Ooooo, I am so bloody scared. But thanks, for your concern and warning. I will now keep a big hammer on my bed with me just in case one of those bogeymen Marxists globalists of yours pops their head out. It will be smash-bang-boom. HA-HA-HA. 

So, I would like to get your opinion on whether anyone who supports some cause in Canada should have their bank accounts frozen like what has happened to some of the people who supported the truckers convoy. Are you all in favor if this or not? Just asking. ?

 

[Moonbox]

19 minutes ago, taxme said:

Ooooo, I am so bloody scared. But thanks, for your concern and warning. I will now keep a big hammer on my bed with me just in case one of those bogeymen Marxists globalists of yours pops their head out. It will be smash-bang-boom. HA-HA-HA. 

I don't think I warned you of anything, but at least you got to ramble about something.  

21 minutes ago, taxme said:

So, I would like to get your opinion on whether anyone who supports some cause in Canada should have their bank accounts frozen like what has happened to some of the people who supported the truckers convoy. Are you all in favor if this or not? Just asking. ?

 

Um, the way you put it, I guess I have to say no?  ?

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Worst advice ever. The headlines are the biggest problem.

What they say in the headline is always inflammatory and ignorant...

You've got some kind of weird inverted projection thing going.  You just described your thread titles (click-bait) to a tee.  You appear to stumble across an article that triggers a shit-storm of brainfarts that usually have little if anything to do with the article.  If you come up with the thread title last that might explain why the whole exercise is so bass-ackwards.