CTV & Global News are Pure Filth, CBC Needs to be Defunded

[Moonbox]

10 minutes ago, taxme said:

The crazy leftist liberal/socialists ding bats like you out there are all marching off to your communist utopia which you will find out soon enough that the communist like utopia that you appear to want to see happen in Canada will not be so great once you are locked into that communist utopia. Once locked in there will be no way out, comrade. ?

Speaking as someone who spent the majority of his last 12+ years posting on this site arguing against eyeball, I have to say that his opinions and arguments are at least grounded in rational reality.  Whatever ideological disagreements I have with him (which are many), the fact that he's not a deluded conspiracy clown means I have more in common with him than with you.  In a weird way, we have you guys to thank for (our) finding common ground (sanity).  

Edited February 22, 2022 by Moonbox

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

  In a weird way, we have you guys to thank for (our) finding common ground (sanity).  

Those of us who have been on here for 20- years or so joined the 'sensible party' a long time ago.  This means that you can consider an idea, point of view, perspective on its merits without jumping out the window in anger immediately upon seeing  it written.

So whether or not I personally subscribe to "woke" politics, blockades, or skepticism of one kind of another, I can answer the questions:

1) Do I agree with this ?  Am I convinced ?
2) Are the arguments presented reasonable whether or not my mind is changed ?

What we need on the site is more ideas that prompt a 'yes' to #2

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Moonbox said:

 Whatever ideological disagreements I have with him (which are many), the fact that he's not a deluded conspiracy clown means I have more in common with him than with you.  In a weird way, we have you guys to thank for (our) finding common ground (sanity).  

LOL. When you and eyeball find common ground and then accuse others of being "deluded conspiracy clowns" it's like when some furries get together and decide that the rest of the world is a bunch of weirdos. 

[WestCanMan]

https://globalnews.ca/news/8635963/south-asian-canadian-truckers-convoy-blockades-industry/

Global being pure filth again, here there are trying to create a wedge between south-Asian and Caucasian truckers:

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Semi trucks and protesters barred the way in Coutts, Alta., as they demonstrated against vaccine mandates, holding up Singh for nearly two days, one of hundreds of drivers stopped by the blockade.

After more than 24 hours, he and a group of other South Asian Canadian truckers approached authorities to find out when they could pass.

“That’s when another guy, he came out of his truck and he was, like, being racist. He was saying, ‘Go back to your truck, go back to India,”’ recalled Singh, a 28-year-old driver from Edmonton.

 

Well, there ya have it.

Global is reporting on some unlikely hearsay [their guy was with "a group of other South Asian Canadian truckers" and one guy got out of truck and mouthed them all off, uh-huh] from one random dude in the whole country and acting like it's the sign of the times. "OMG things have gotten so much worse now than they were ten years ago that south-Asians are leaving the industry" ?

They painted the whole trucker convoy was a bunch of racists as well, the truth couldn't have been more different.

Global is filth, period.

[Moonbox]

Or maybe that actually did happen? Gosh, imagine how silly that would make you.

[WestCanMan]

35 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Or maybe that actually did happen? Gosh, imagine how silly that would make you.

It wouldn't, at all.

One small transgression like that among 38M people isn't worth reporting.

Things like that go both ways son, and if we reported on every incident we'd be piling on instead of getting along. Understood?

Run along now.

[WestCanMan]

One more Global/CTV/CBC fiasco to report on is the beating of the "Pizza" truck driver from Romania, I think his last name is Vizi or some such.

A Canadian (I'm assuming) caught him on video being beaten by multiple officers, after he had surrendered peacefully with his hands behind his head, while down on his knees.

Two cops, one on either side, kneed him multiple times while other cops held him down. 

The police arrested the camera guy and seized his equipment for all his troubles.

The video still got to Fox, Tucker showed it, gave the video to CTV and CBC along with the contact info of the guy who shot the video, but of course our propagandists never showed the violent beating because it looks bad for sockboy.

Welcome to Canada. You'll be fine here as long as your lips are on Justin's ass. 

I'll provide video of it in due time. My word is trusted over that of CTV, CBC and Global here anyways. 

[WestCanMan]

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6298431279001?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6298431733001?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6298431279001?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

Here's the full segment where Tucker shows the video and then interviews the guy who got beaten for surrendering to the police on his knees with his hands on his head.

I've said many times here before that the violence that happens when people get arrested always seems to involve people resisting. This is where the police clearly brutalized a man who was not resisting at all.

Soooooo, here it comes. I'm man enough to admit it. I was proven wrong for the first time in the whole history of the internet again.

Must be a bug, I dunno how that line got there.

Anyways, yeah, guy complied, got the beats. 

 

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6298431279001?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6298431733001?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

 

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6298431279001?playlist_id=5198073478001#sp=show-clips

Here's the full segment where Tucker shows the video and then interviews the guy who got beaten for surrendering to the police on his knees with his hands on his head.

I've said many times here before that the violence that happens when people get arrested always seems to involve people resisting. This is where the police clearly brutalized a man who was not resisting at all.

Soooooo, here it comes. I'm man enough to admit it. I was proven wrong for the first time in the whole history of the internet again.

Must be a bug, I dunno how that line got there.

Anyways, yeah, guy complied, got the beats. 

 

Yes I saw that too.  One of the saddest scenes from the protest was watching a man get beaten behind a row of police while Oh Canada played.  It reminded me of scenes from Jewish ghettos at the start of the Holocaust.  To know that in the place where recently families played and strangers formed conga lines and danced… Watching how giddy Freeland was when talking about how the freezing of bank accounts, loss of truck insurance, and other cruelties meted out for political opponents would “bite” was the image of a sadist.  I never thought the “Liberal” Party of Canada could stoop to this or that our police could dehumanize regular Canadians so easily.  They were “doing their job”.  We may not have imprisonment of the Conservative Party and Bloc, but I’ve never seen political persecution approaching this in Canada.  Putin’s playing of Oh Canada on the piano after yesterday’s yes vote to the Emergencies Act, ending the song before the word “free”, was a real commentary.

Canadian democracy is in crisis.  Our Cabinet appears to be beholden to an external unelected power.  I pray for Canada’s liberation from tyranny.  

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Here's the full segment where Tucker shows the video and then interviews the guy who got beaten for surrendering to the police on his knees with his hands on his head.

Excuse me but beaten for surrendering?

In any case to get to the point simply tell us where it is in the clip.  I'm certainly not wasting my time looking for something that you think substantiates your interpretation of something Tucker Carlson interpreted. 

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Yes I saw that too.  One of the saddest scenes from the protest was watching a man get beaten behind a row of police while Oh Canada played.  It reminded me of scenes from Jewish ghettos at the start of the Holocaust.  To know that in the place where recently families played and strangers formed conga lines and danced… Watching how giddy Freeland was when talking about how the freezing of bank accounts, loss of truck insurance, and other cruelties meted out for political opponents would “bite” was the image of a sadist.  I never thought the “Liberal” Party of Canada could stoop to this or that our police could dehumanize regular Canadians so easily.  They were “doing their job”.  We may not have imprisonment of the Conservative Party and Bloc, but I’ve never seen political persecution approaching this in Canada.  Putin’s playing of Oh Canada on the piano after yesterday’s yes vote to the Emergencies Act, ending the song before the word “free”, was a real commentary.

Canadian democracy is in crisis.  Our Cabinet appears to be beholden to an external unelected power.  I pray for Canada’s liberation from tyranny.  

I saw the Putin video too, but if you look at his fingers he was playing something else. It would have been epic though if he did.

[WestCanMan]

30 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Excuse me but beaten for surrendering?

In any case to get to the point simply tell us where it is in the clip.  I'm certainly not wasting my time looking for something that you think substantiates your interpretation of something Tucker Carlson interpreted. 

If it's not important to you to see if the cops really beat someone after they surrendered peacefully then don't bother clicking the link and wasting 5 minutes of your precious time.

If wallowing in ignorance wasn't an option then there would be no LPOC. 

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If wallowing in ignorance wasn't an option then there would be no LPOC. 

And Faux News would be satire. 

[Michael Hardner]

40 minutes ago, eyeball said:

...something Tucker Carlson interpreted. 

Stop being generous - FOX lies, period.  If people repeat their lies knowingly then they are also liars.

If they cry glory, that they are marching to Ottawa to oppose the liars then they are liars and hypocrites.

The followers have been misled - they need to purge the idiots and mount another protest.  Better protesters will make for a better democracy.  No need to demonize them, just try try again...

[Michael Hardner]

To be clear - my problem with FOX is with the editorial component.  The Hannity's and Carlsons who pretend to be friends of the worker.  Puh-LEASE...

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

And Faux News would be satire. 

Dude, you just chose the path of total ignorance. The facts are right there and you choose to look away.

You're not in a position to throw shade on other people. You're wallowing, remember? When I need your opinion I'll yell soooooieee!

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Stop being generous - FOX lies, period.  If people repeat their lies knowingly then they are also liars.

If they cry glory, that they are marching to Ottawa to oppose the liars then they are liars and hypocrites.

The followers have been misled - they need to purge the idiots and mount another protest.  Better protesters will make for a better democracy.  No need to demonize them, just try try again...

Get your head out of your ass and watch the video. You're calling Fox News liars because CNN called them liars and for no other reason. 

I've cited several of Goebbels and CTV lies here, you're just blathering your idiotic and uniformed opinion.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

To be clear - my problem with FOX is with the editorial component.  The Hannity's and Carlsons who pretend to be friends of the worker.  Puh-LEASE...

You're a leftist: you state your opinions, and those given to you by state media, and you voice your feelings. If you don't believe me just look at your posts. That's all that's there.

I'm a conservative. I talk about facts and I provide cites. Dig through the whole thread if you want. My opinions are backed by video proof. 

This forum is neutral. It's not a liberal echo chamber where your blather is all that matters. If you have some accusations to make, you need to back them up. 

As of right now, all that's happening is that your sources are being thoroughly discredited so you're throwing some unsubstantiated insults around. 

Sorry to be the one who has to break it to you, but nothing that you're saying is landing with any effect. Facts matter. Cites matter. If you want your unsubstantiated opinions to matter, talk to your mommy. I don't care about yow huwty hawt. 

[Moonbox]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

You're a leftist: you state your opinions, and those given to you by state media, and you voice your feelings. If you don't believe me just look at your posts. That's all that's there.

I'm a conservative. I talk about facts and I provide cites. Dig through the whole thread if you want. My opinions are backed by video proof. 

Your videos are almost never proof of anything. Your standard tactic is to post a video from the media, get upset that they're not telling the story as you would prefer them to, and then ramble a bunch of angry hyperbole that amounts to "they are saying things I don't like."   

Your quote here is silly.  "You're a leftist and therefore everything you say is wrong and spoonfed MSM propaganda, and I am a brave freedom loving Conservative, red-pilled and based and full of justice and truthiness!"  

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Get your head out of your ass and watch the video. You're calling Fox News liars because CNN called them liars and for no other reason.  I've cited several of Goebbels and CTV lies here, you're just blathering your idiotic and uniformed opinion.

I don't get my news from TV, sorry, especially not FOX commentators. 

[WestCanMan]

4 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

Your videos are almost never proof of anything. Your standard tactic is to post a video from the media, get upset that they're not telling the story as you would prefer them to, and then ramble a bunch of angry hyperbole that amounts to "they are saying things I don't like."   

Address the posts individually. All you're doing right now is stating a worthless opinion. 

I could just as easily say "All of moonbox's posts are stupid". Even if it's correct, it would still just be a worthless post because it's not backed up.

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Your quote here is silly.  "You're a leftist and therefore everything you say is wrong and spoonfed MSM propaganda, and I am a brave freedom loving Conservative, red-pilled and based and full of justice and truthiness!"  

It might seem silly to you, but it's the truth. Even if you want to mke the argument that my comment was too broad, the most recent posts by you, MH and eyeball all serve to substantiate my claim. 

Go look at all of the posts from all 3 of you guys in the last 3 hrs in this thread and try to cite one single thing that's a verified fact. 

I see now that MH just replied to this thread, I'm gonna go ahead guess that it's just opinion and whining. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't get my news from TV, sorry, especially not FOX commentators. 

I don't get all of my information from Fox either, but I certainly don't just devour CNN, CTV, Goebbels and CBC gossip and then start blurting out idiocy like this thing:

Are you f'n kidding me? That's the state of our democracy right now that people just blurt out the dumbest things that they can think of in the HoC?

How. Did. That. Person. Get. Elected?

Did she run against a poodle? Or do too many voters in her riding watch CTV and CBC? 

We both know the answer. Our democracy is crap. 

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

1. I don't get all of my information from Fox either, but I certainly don't just devour CNN, CTV, Goebbels and CBC 

2. That's the state of our democracy right now that people just blurt out the dumbest things that they can think of in the HoC? 

3. How. Did. That. Person. Get. Elected?  Did she run against a poodle? Or do too many voters in her riding watch CTV and CBC? 

4. We both know the answer. Our democracy is crap. 

1. You should really just get top-level headlines from TV, radio and their twitter accounts.
2. Apparently so.  But maybe we can work at that problem from all sides - such as getting people smarter about buying bullshit like "Honk=Hitler" 
3. How did Mark Strahl get elected ?  Dunno.  How did Hillier get elected ? Dunno.
4. If you allow Conservatives that 'the ends justify the means' you are the core of the problem.  

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. You should really just get top-level headlines from TV, radio and their twitter accounts. 

Worst advice ever. The headlines are the biggest problem.

What they say in the headline is always inflammatory and ignorant, and that's what gets parroted on radio stations when kids are listening to hiphop, and then they say "Damn, I'm an informed indavidjooal right now".

If there's any truth at all in an article by a propagandist it's in the last two paragraphs.

 

CBC was called out in spring of last year for letting Trudeau come on TV and belch out lies about the "20M vaccines" that he had just managed to order, then his low-level staffers were allowed to make the corrections like "2M, or 0", and he'd just do it again later. That's when he finally decided to poach 1.9M vaxes from the 3rd world charity pool and he got away with that too. 

The headlines are utterly devoid of important and damaging info about the PM and chock full of bullshit.

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2. Apparently so.  But maybe we can work at that problem from all sides - such as getting people smarter about buying bullshit like "Honk=Hitler" 

Demanding media accountability is step 1.

That woman should be excoriated by the PM and humiliated in the news, instead gets a pat on the back from Trudeau and she's quoted to lend credibility to the village idiot's diatribe. 

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3. How did Mark Strahl get elected ?  Dunno.  How did Hillier get elected ? Dunno.
 

I don't know much about those guys. Our old conservative MP in Cloverdale Langley was Tamara Jansen, pretty much a zero, but voting for her was my only chance to go against Trudeau. 

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4. If you allow Conservatives that 'the ends justify the means' you are the core of the problem. 

I'm pretty sure that the Machiavellian ones are the ones using martial law to purge the country of dissidents. 

[Nexii]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

I don't get all of my information from Fox either, but I certainly don't just devour CNN, CTV, Goebbels and CBC gossip and then start blurting out idiocy like this thing:

Are you f'n kidding me? That's the state of our democracy right now that people just blurt out the dumbest things that they can think of in the HoC?

How. Did. That. Person. Get. Elected?

Did she run against a poodle? Or do too many voters in her riding watch CTV and CBC? 

We both know the answer. Our democracy is crap. 

Yea this is why the arguments for FPTP are so weak. Dumb candidates still get in even if it's regionalised instead of a party list.