Moonlight Graham Posted February 10, 2022 Report Posted February 10, 2022 I had a friend tell me today that he notices that Doug Ford is very careful to stay clear of all identity issues like racial issues, feminism etc. It was an insightful comment when I came to think about it. Ford never says anything anti-immigrant/white nationalist etc like Trump did, and he also doesn't do the Trudeau/Biden thing of treating POC like a special class or virtue signal about feminism etc. This has worked very well for him. Maybe you don't agree with all of his politics, but he's not a divisive politician. Maybe this is what we need in our politics. Sure you can address huge unavoidable issues like racism in policing etc, but stay clear of the woke or racist/anti-feminist. Essentially just try to stay more neutral or at least reasonable. We all seemed to be much happier before when none of us were so obsessed with talking about these identity issues so much. If you react to this post with "but what about all the white supremacy?" or "but what about all those darn Muslims?" maybe you're closer to the problem than the solution. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Michael Hardner Posted February 10, 2022 Report Posted February 10, 2022 Yeah but with the Ambassador Bridge blockaded maybe we don't need the premier to be "everybody's pal" right now 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted February 10, 2022 Author Report Posted February 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yeah but with the Ambassador Bridge blockaded maybe we don't need the premier to be "everybody's pal" right now Ok but the bridge isn't really an issue about identity, unless "trucker" is now a tribe lol. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Zeitgeist Posted February 10, 2022 Report Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) Ford is still clinging to vaccine passports, so he doesn’t get a pass on Canada’s oppression problem. He hasn’t steered clear of race-obsessed training and inquisitions. He seems like a reasonable middle of the road sort of guy. On the whole he seems pretty caring and decent, which will probably buoy him through another election win. If he builds the Ontario Line, gets some other decent infrastructure projects underway, drops the license plate stickers, and most importantly, ends these pandemic measures soon, that’s not a bad record. He’s been quite present throughout the pandemic. Edited February 10, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote
Michael Hardner Posted February 10, 2022 Report Posted February 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Ok but the bridge isn't really an issue about identity, unless "trucker" is now a tribe lol. Where have you been for the last two weeks then ? 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Moonlight Graham Posted February 10, 2022 Author Report Posted February 10, 2022 40 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Where have you been for the last two weeks then ? Supporting protests but not the blocking of public infrastructure and other crimes? Also, race-baiting! 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Nationalist Posted February 11, 2022 Report Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) Ford lost me when I realized he was catering to the fear pornsters. Is he divisive? Probably not as much as many. I sure wish he had his bother's spine though. Edited February 11, 2022 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Jack9000 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Posted February 14, 2022 He has done a decent job actually by far the best conservative premier in the country . Quote PROUD NDP SUPPORTER. #SINGHOUT
Michael Hardner Posted June 19, 2022 Report Posted June 19, 2022 To answer the OP, it seems that he's inventing a new centrist populism. Here he is popping up at York region pride, and I'm sorry to posters here whose blood is starting on a low boil after reading this. Trigger warning. CP24 Toronto's Breaking News: Premier Doug Ford marches in York region Pride parade. https://www.cp24.com/news/premier-doug-ford-marches-in-york-region-pride-parade-1.5953348 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
OftenWrong Posted June 19, 2022 Report Posted June 19, 2022 This only further substantiates my belief, the man is loved by liberals. esp. vis Toronto has elected him. I cannot stand him, as I view him as just another extension of corruption through organized crime. People can wear it in their sleeves now. Blind liberals cannot see it. Forty percent turnout. I know would never vote for this man, or anyone like him. I guess that leaves me out of the picture. - The last conservative man speaks. Quote
ExFlyer Posted June 29, 2022 Report Posted June 29, 2022 On 6/19/2022 at 11:53 AM, Michael Hardner said: To answer the OP, it seems that he's inventing a new centrist populism. Here he is popping up at York region pride, and I'm sorry to posters here whose blood is starting on a low boil after reading this. Trigger warning. CP24 Toronto's Breaking News: Premier Doug Ford marches in York region Pride parade. https://www.cp24.com/news/premier-doug-ford-marches-in-york-region-pride-parade-1.5953348 A politician has to do all sorts of things they may or many not agree with. That is the life of a politician. No trigger, just political reality. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Zeitgeist Posted June 30, 2022 Report Posted June 30, 2022 He put himself in front of the cameras daily and came across as pretty caring. He isn’t very conservative, but he seems much more in touch with regular people and their struggles than the other party leaders, especially the federal Liberals. He’s not elitist. I didn’t expect him to be so politically wise. I don’t know how he got such wide support. Ontarians like middle of the road and down to earth. However, he mostly toes the federal line. I think he can afford to push back more as Trudeau sinks. Then again, he’s kept a lot of the public onside from all political stripes. Hard to criticize his political instincts. Quote
Zeitgeist Posted November 11, 2022 Report Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) I won’t vote for Ford after hearing this from the commission: ”There was a split among Canada’s premiers about whether the Emergencies Act should be used, with some harbouring concerns about its potential to inflame protesters, Mr. Clow’s notes show. At a morning meeting on Feb. 14 – just hours before the act was invoked – Mr. Trudeau shared with the premiers how it would work, saying that it was not a military action and was “compliant with Charter.” Ontario Premier Doug Ford is listed as “strongly supports,” according to Mr. Clow’s notes. Globe and Mail Edited November 11, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 11, 2022 Report Posted November 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: I won’t vote for Ford after hearing this from the commission: ”There was a split among Canada’s premiers about whether the Emergencies Act should be used, with some harbouring concerns about its potential to inflame protesters, Mr. Clow’s notes show. At a morning meeting on Feb. 14 – just hours before the act was invoked – Mr. Trudeau shared with the premiers how it would work, saying that it was not a military action and was “compliant with Charter.” Ontario Premier Doug Ford is listed as “strongly supports,” according to Mr. Clow’s notes. Globe and Mail Blocking the Ambassador Bridge was likely something that woke Ford up. The last Conservative premier had somebody killed for occupying a provincial park for a long weekend. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Zeitgeist Posted November 11, 2022 Report Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Blocking the Ambassador Bridge was likely something that woke Ford up. The last Conservative premier had somebody killed for occupying a provincial park for a long weekend. It was opened by the time the EA was invoked. Quote
August1991 Posted November 13, 2022 Report Posted November 13, 2022 Doug Ford was re-elected. Donald Trump was not. ===== You had one task. Quote
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