Candace Bergen The New CPC Leader

[TreeBeard]

9 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

no

but getting elected is overrated

mainstream Canadians are morons

compromising core principles to gain their votes is folly

Folly for a political party to get elected?   Are you a masochist who enjoys Trudeau in power?

[Yzermandius19]

56 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Folly for a political party to get elected?   Are you a masochist who enjoys Trudeau in power?

if the only way to beat Trudeau

is to out Trudeau, Trudeau himself

what good does that do?

are you a masochist who wants a Trudeau clone with a different name in power?

Edited February 5, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Infidel Dog]

6 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

he did let others do the hiring

that was the problem

he still did a better job than most POTUS's

Didn't a lot of more or less pro-Trump people draw the line at the faith he had in his son-in-law, Jared Kushner? Wasn't the hiring thing one of the things they didn't like about Kushner? Seems to me I heard that somewhere.

[Yzermandius19]

11 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Didn't a lot of more or less pro-Trump people draw the line at the faith he had in his son-in-law, Jared Kushner? Wasn't the hiring thing one of the things they didn't like about Kushner? Seems to me I heard that somewhere.

he let others do the hiring more often than not

there are outliers

some of them were bad choices on his part

but Trump did a better job than most POTUS's when it comes to who to hire

he at least got some picks right

while many others missed on pretty much every single choice

Joe Biden is a prime example of that

Edited February 5, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Moonlight Graham]

On 2/5/2022 at 12:01 AM, Yzermandius19 said:

if the only way to beat Trudeau

is to out Trudeau, Trudeau himself

what good does that do?

are you a masochist who wants a Trudeau clone with a different name in power?

Best way to beat Trudeau is to present a reasonable alternative, not squawk like a bunch of loons and make a MAGA-head your interim leader.

[Yzermandius19]

27 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Best way to beat Trudeau is to present a reasonable alternative, not squawk like a bunch of loons and make a MAGA-head your interim leader.

there is no reasonable alternative who is also electable

beating Trudeau by becoming Trudeau is no victory

and that's what being electable entails in Canada

being the fake opposition

f*ck the fake opposition and the horse they rode in on

Bergen is fake opposition too, don't let the MAGA hat fool you

she ain't MAGA

Edited February 7, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[TreeBeard]

12 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

she ain't MAGA

This is a negative for you if she’s not?

[TreeBeard]

Bergen has been an MP since the age of 43…. Did she ever hold a job in the private sector?  

[Yzermandius19]

7 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

This is a negative for you if she’s not?

I'll take MAGA over fake conservatives any day of the week

[TreeBeard]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I'll take MAGA over fake conservatives any day of the week

Do you think MAGAs are fiscally conservative?

[Yzermandius19]

14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Do you think MAGAs are fiscally conservative?

do you think fake conservatives are fiscally conservative?

neolibs spend like drunken sailors too, in case you missed the memo

 

gone are the days of Paul Martin and Stephen Harper

now Canadian MP's want to spend like Democrats, because Canadians demand it

 

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[eyeball]

11 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Canadian MP's want to spend like Democrats, because Canadians demand it

But I thought...why is it that they want to control what we think again?

[Michael Hardner]

11 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Do you think MAGAs are fiscally conservative?

OMG .... ask yourself why Paul Ryan jumped off the MAGA train, or why the Tea Party evaporated...

Trump tried to run the USA like one of his casinos...

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

OMG .... ask yourself why Paul Ryan jumped off the MAGA train, or why the Tea Party evaporated...

Trump tried to run the USA like one of his casinos...

because Paul Ryan is a fake conservative

siding with Paul Ryan over MAGA is a bad look

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[TreeBeard]

3 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

because Paul Ryan is a fake conservative

siding with Paul Ryan over MAGA is a bad look

Trump is a ‘real conservative’?  

Is there anyone in the Conservative Party of Canada who you would consider a ‘real conservative’?

[Yzermandius19]

7 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Trump is a ‘real conservative’?  

Is there anyone in the Conservative Party of Canada who you would consider a ‘real conservative’?

Make America Great Again

that is a call to conserve the things that made America great

there are no real conservatives in the CPC

the vast majority of Canadian conservatives

are out to conserve the far left status quo in Canada

and keep freedom out

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Make America Great Again

that is a call to conserve the things that made America great

there are no real conservatives in the CPC

the vast majority of Canadian conservatives

are out to conserve the far left status quo in Canada

So your issue is that most Canadians reject your fringe views?  

Edited February 8, 2022 by TreeBeard

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

So your issue is that most Canadians reject your fringe views?  

my issue is that to most Canadians

liberty is fringe

f*ck most Canadians and the horse they rode in on

they are the extremists

not I

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[TreeBeard]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

my issue is that to most Canadians

liberty is fringe

f*ck most Canadians

they are the extremists

not I

So you are defining “extremist” as anyone who doesn’t agree with your stance on liberty, even if it is the vast majority of people. 

Do you think that is the common definition used by most Canadians when talking about extremist views?

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

So you are defining “extremist” as anyone who doesn’t agree with your stance on liberty, even if it is the vast majority of people. 

Do you think that is the common definition used by most Canadians when talking about extremist views?

extremism in defense of liberty is no vice

moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue

 

Canada and most Canadians are too dumb to get that

they see it the opposite way

extremism in defense of liberty is no virtue

moderation in pursuit of justice is no vice

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[TreeBeard]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

extremism in defense of liberty is no vice

moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue

Claiming we don’t have liberty does not make it true.

And it didn’t answer my question in any way.

Edited February 8, 2022 by TreeBeard

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, TreeBeard said:

Claiming we don’t have liberty does not make it true.

but it is true

my claim doesn't make it so

reality makes it so

my claim is based on observed reality

both on paper and in practice

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[TreeBeard]

2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

but it is true

my claim doesn't make it so

reality makes it so

my claim is based on observed reality

both on paper and in practice

Looking at the exact same evidence, most would disagree with your assertion, wouldn’t they?

Edited February 8, 2022 by TreeBeard

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Most would disagree with you, wouldn’t they?

sure

but that is argument ad populum

a logical fallacy

what is popular isn't always good

and what is good isn't always popular

how many people agree or don't agree with you

doesn't win an argument

Edited February 8, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Zeitgeist]

15 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

sure

but that is argument ad populum

a logical fallacy

what is popular isn't always good

and what is good isn't always popular

how many people agree or don't agree with you

doesn't win an argument

If you think most Canadians won’t fight for freedom and Treebeard asks if most Canadians agree with your stance on the importance of freedom, he’s merely proving your point.  I hear you.  I hope it’s not true that most Canadians don’t care about freedom, but I have my doubts.  I’m losing interest in Canada.  I sometimes think the people are becoming sucky.  It’s all about getting handouts and being micromanaged like irresponsible babies.  If Trudeau succeeds in maintaining mandates, that’s all the proof we need.  When people who are willing to sacrifice income to defend freedom are characterized as scary extremists, we’ve lost the plot as a society.  If we won’t defend the Constitution, what do Canadians stand for and what’s the value of Canada?   Might as well move to the US or Britain where freedom is valued.