Trucker's Convoy

[West]

15 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

I'm saying a significant number of the convoy social media has shifted to pro-Putin memes. Have you noticed this as well?

Let's see: 

-Just looked at Freedom Central Canada. No Putin memes. 

-Freedom Convoy 2022 has no posts about Vladimir Putin. Some generally Information about bail hearing etc

-Sask Citizens Uncensored: one related post comparing Trudeau's actions of violent arrests toward the truckers to Putin's arrests of anti war protesters. 

-Sask Freedom Revolution page which is likely under a 30 day suspension by Facebook as there hasn't been a post since Feb 23.

-Druthers has lots of lives of protests outside the detection center. No mention of Putin. 

-Freedom Alliance page has one Ukraine related post suggesting that citizens haven't stood with their fellow Canadians over the past two years but now virtue signal over Ukraine. Fair point. No pro putin posts.. 

 

No I have no clue what you are referring to. 

Edited March 9, 2022 by West

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, West said:

Let's see: 

-Just looked at Freedom Central Canada. No Putin memes. 

-Freedom Convoy 2022 has no posts about Vladimir Putin. Some generally Information about bail hearing etc

-Sask Citizens Uncensored: one related post comparing Trudeau's actions of violent arrests toward the truckers to Putin's arrests of anti war protesters. 

-Sask Freedom Revolution page which is likely under a 30 day suspension by Facebook as there hasn't been a post since Feb 23.

-Druthers has lots of lives of protests outside the detection center. No mention of Putin. 

-Freedom Alliance page has one Ukraine related post suggesting that citizens haven't stood with their fellow Canadians over the past two years but now virtue signal over Ukraine. Fair point. No pro putin posts.. 

 

No I have no clue what you are referring to. 

For sure there are people who were against the MSM BS about the vaccines but don't follow the war that closely, or might support Ukraine for their own personal reasons.

He's looking on a different freedom convoy site, more along these lines:

 

[Faramir]

7 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

I don't chant at all because I don't give a shit. 

But I like to watch to see how low you guys will go. As of this week, watching you on facebook, you're suddenly all extreme Putin loyalists. Why is that?

Speak for yourself I am not Putin loyalist.  I just don't think we should put a no fly zone in the Ukraine and watch WWIII to come to fruition.  Why is it you are so itching for war?

[Faramir]

2 hours ago, BubberMiley said:

I'm just saying what I see. You honestly haven't noticed it yourself?

Uh and I bet you were the Soviet Union's cheerleader.  Why did you just discover Russia was bad now?

[West]

2 minutes ago, Faramir said:

Speak for yourself I am not Putin loyalist.  I just don't think we should put a no fly zone in the Ukraine and watch WWIII to come to fruition.  Why is it you are so itching for war?

Yes I too am concerned about another 20 year war and utilizing our military to protect globalist interests

[Faramir]

6 minutes ago, West said:

Yes I too am concerned about another 20 year war and utilizing our military to protect globalist interests

If I ran the USA I would disband NATO.  There is no purpose for it anymore and rather a joke that Turkey, run by wild eyed Islamists, is part of it.  Thank the neocons for that.  GWB who thought you could actually spread Western style democracy to the arm pit of the world - Islamic nations.  And John McCain who wanted to fund ISIS to fight Assad.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Faramir said:

If I ran the USA I would disband NATO.   

I'm not so gung-ho about keeping Canada in NATO anymore. 

It used to have a (sad) purpose but now it seems more like an aggressive treaty than defensive. 

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And John McCain who wanted to fund ISIS to fight Assad.

You have to wonder what went wrong with his brain chemistry. He swung hard to the left and then died of a brain tumour. 

I wonder what % his brain was functioning at when he crossed over the center position to the hard left. 

I found this on USA Today:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/08/25/john-mccain-death-donald-trump-old-republican-party-editorials-debates/692818002/

Basically the more his brain deteriorated the more they liked him. 

If I ever have to get a lobotomy to remove some kind of tumour I'm gonna have myself removed from the voter roll in advance, just in case they take too much out and turn me into a Liberal. 

[Faramir]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm not so gung-ho about keeping Canada in NATO anymore. 

It used to have a (sad) purpose but now it seems more like an aggressive treaty than defensive. 

You have to wonder what went wrong with his brain chemistry. He swung hard to the left and then died of a brain tumour. 

I wonder what % his brain was functioning at when he crossed over the center position to the hard left. 

I found this on USA Today:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2018/08/25/john-mccain-death-donald-trump-old-republican-party-editorials-debates/692818002/

Basically the more his brain deteriorated the more they liked him. 

If I ever have to get a lobotomy to remove some kind of tumour I'm gonna have myself removed from the voter roll in advance, just in case they take too much out and turn me into a Liberal. 

He was always compromised.  The Keating 5 scandal with loaning institutions.  

[West]

So weeks after the CBC ran fake stories about the Convoy's foreign donations they quietly retract. 

https://tnc.news/2022/03/11/cbc-admits-running-fake-news-about-freedom-convoy/

One of the reasons why leftists can't be trusted

[Goddess]

On 3/11/2022 at 6:38 PM, West said:

So weeks after the CBC ran fake stories about the Convoy's foreign donations they quietly retract. 

https://tnc.news/2022/03/11/cbc-admits-running-fake-news-about-freedom-convoy/

One of the reasons why leftists can't be trusted

Whether people agreed with the convoy or not, all Canadians should be extremely concerned about how the government handled it.  The lying media, the stolen funds, the jailing and beating of protesters, the freezing bank accounts.....the actions were all very Russia/China, not Canadian democracy.

[Nationalist]

On 3/11/2022 at 7:38 PM, West said:

So weeks after the CBC ran fake stories about the Convoy's foreign donations they quietly retract. 

https://tnc.news/2022/03/11/cbc-admits-running-fake-news-about-freedom-convoy/

One of the reasons why leftists can't be trusted

Aaand...who didn't see that coming?

LOL...the CBC needs to be taken down.

[West]

49 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Whether people agreed with the convoy or not, all Canadians should be extremely concerned about how the government handled it.  The lying media, the stolen funds, the jailing and beating of protesters, the freezing bank accounts.....the actions were all very Russia/China, not Canadian democracy.

The cbc continuously embarrases themselves and by extension Canadians for funding them

Edited March 14, 2022 by West

[ExFlyer]

20 hours ago, Goddess said:

Whether people agreed with the convoy or not, all Canadians should be extremely concerned about how the government handled it.  The lying media, the stolen funds, the jailing and beating of protesters, the freezing bank accounts.....the actions were all very Russia/China, not Canadian democracy.

The "lying media" is definitely a problem to those that do not agree with what they are saying or seeing. LOL

All the rest is also a problem to those that did wrong and against the "law"..

[Nationalist]

17 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

The "lying media" is definitely a problem to those that do not agree with what they are saying or seeing. LOL

All the rest is also a problem to those that did wrong and against the "law"..

So...you agree with how the Trudeau government trashed the Charter of Rights. OK understood.

This folks, is the Libbie mentality. Laws and constitutions don't matter. What matters is their beliefs and desires. Remember that and also remember to thank these people for their support of authoritarianism.

[ExFlyer]

42 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

So...you agree with how the Trudeau government trashed the Charter of Rights. OK understood.

This folks, is the Libbie mentality. Laws and constitutions don't matter. What matters is their beliefs and desires. Remember that and also remember to thank these people for their support of authoritarianism.

Please, stop with that "trashed the charter of rights " crap.

A lot have made that accusation and when asked exactly how and what rights were 'trashed", no one provided a real response. Lots of emotion and supposition but no real examples of what was "trashed". No court cases were made by the accusers sand civil rights groups so, it is not "libbie mentality", it is fact. No rights were trashed.

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

 No court cases were made by the accusers sand civil rights groups  

Not true.  This is a summary of the challenges, which have mostly failed from what I have read.

For some reason the results of these cases are barely noted in the press, outside legal periodicals.

https://www.thelawyersdaily.ca/articles/30758/vaccine-passports-judge-proof-by-design-heather-macivor

[Michael Hardner]

Here's one where they fought Quarantine and lost....

 

https://www.fct-cf.gc.ca/Content/assets/pdf/base/2021-04-23 Bulletin T-340-21 Spencer v Canada.pdf

[West]

30 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Please, stop with that "trashed the charter of rights " crap.

A lot have made that accusation and when asked exactly how and what rights were 'trashed", no one provided a real response. Lots of emotion and supposition but no real examples of what was "trashed". No court cases were made by the accusers sand civil rights groups so, it is not "libbie mentality", it is fact. No rights were trashed.

-Freedom of Assembly (police became violent)

-Freedom of Association (government froze the GiveSendGo/GoFundMe)

-Due process (bank accounts were frozen without due process or criminal charges)

-Unlawful detainment (protesters were put in handcuffs only to be dropped out of the city)

Shall I go on?

[Nationalist]

37 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Please, stop with that "trashed the charter of rights " crap.

A lot have made that accusation and when asked exactly how and what rights were 'trashed", no one provided a real response. Lots of emotion and supposition but no real examples of what was "trashed". No court cases were made by the accusers sand civil rights groups so, it is not "libbie mentality", it is fact. No rights were trashed.

The mandates set forth by the government and the response to the Ottawa protest were in violation of the Charter.

https://bwcentral.org/2022/02/last-living-premier-to-sign-canadas-charter-in-speech-to-freedom-convoy-section-1-of-charter-being-illegally-used-by-governments/

I assume your argument is based on the idea that;

A. The Rona was a big enough emergency to scrap the Charter.

B. The bureaucratic community in Ottawa being inconvenienced, are more important than the Charter.

Well...the architect of the final copy of the Charter happens to disagree with that. And knowing what we do about The Rona and the mountain of lies we've been fed in order to maintain this trashing of Canadian rights and freedoms, clearly shows how our current government feels about Canada and her citizens.

You wanna defend this trash? Go ahead. That is your "right" as a Canadian and I would defend that right. You however...have a very selective idea on how the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms should be interpreted, and I suspect you'd stand idly by while thousands of fellow Canadians are destroyed, simply for protesting and providing a little inconvenience for the Ottawa bureaucratic army.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Nationalist

[Zeitgeist]

38 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Please, stop with that "trashed the charter of rights " crap.

A lot have made that accusation and when asked exactly how and what rights were 'trashed", no one provided a real response. Lots of emotion and supposition but no real examples of what was "trashed". No court cases were made by the accusers sand civil rights groups so, it is not "libbie mentality", it is fact. No rights were trashed.

The Charter of Rights and Freedoms continues to be violated by our federal government.  You cannot take away citizens’ rights.  Vaccine mandates do this, as they restrict movement and the ability to work.  Our constitutional freedoms can only be suspended under an emergency.  There’s no public health emergency anymore, yet the federal government refuses to even discuss removing vaccine mandates and passports.  Why?

No one can honestly say that this is an accident, as we just saw Trudeau bring in the Emergencies Act to crush protests against vaccine mandates.  Why?

The only reasonable conclusion I can come to is that the federal government wants to reserve the right to control your movements and remove constitutional freedoms based on whatever criteria it wants to add to your digital ID vaccine passports.  This is straight out of the WEF and WHO playbooks.  It’s not even a secret anymore.  It’s not a conspiracy.  Our federal government has handed authority to international bodies, completely abdicating Canadian democracy and sovereignty.

Of course this is all crazy nonsense, right?   Why would we ever let such a thing be done to Canadians?  Trudeau has maintained vaccine mandates and passports, and he won’t even discuss their removal.  Actions speak louder than words.  Canada is well on its way to authoritarianism.  

Edited March 15, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[ExFlyer]

7 minutes ago, West said:

-Freedom of Assembly (police became violent)

-Freedom of Association (government froze the GiveSendGo/GoFundMe)

-Due process (bank accounts were frozen without due process or criminal charges)

-Unlawful detainment (protesters were put in handcuffs only to be dropped out of the city)

Shall I go on?

Yes, by all means go on.

How many are in court to prove wrong actions?

Oh, none are accepted or won their case?

[ExFlyer]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

The mandates set forth by the government and the response to the Ottawa protest were in violation of the Charter.

https://bwcentral.org/2022/02/last-living-premier-to-sign-canadas-charter-in-speech-to-freedom-convoy-section-1-of-charter-being-illegally-used-by-governments/

I assume your argument is based on the idea that;

A. The Rona was a big enough emergency to scrap the Charter.

B. The bureaucratic community in Ottawa being inconvenienced, are more important than the Charter.

Well...the architect of the final copy of the Charter happens to disagree with that. And knowing what we do about The Rona and the mountain of lies we've been fed in order to maintain this trashing of Canadian rights and freedoms, clearly shows how our current government feels about Canada and her citizens.

You wanna defend this trash? Go ahead. That is your "right" as a Canadian and I would defend that right. You however...have a very selective idea on how the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms should be interpreted, and I suspect you'd stand idly by while thousands of fellow Canadians are destroyed, simply for protesting and providing a little inconvenience for the Ottawa bureaucratic army.

Bottom line, no court action proved the accusations you make.

Oh and Brian Peckford?? Being quoted by an American rag??

I am not defending what the government did, just dispelling what you and others are wrongly saying.  Your accusations are unfounded yet they continue to be thrown out there.

Edited March 15, 2022 by ExFlyer

[West]

18 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Here's one where they fought Quarantine and lost....

 

https://www.fct-cf.gc.ca/Content/assets/pdf/base/2021-04-23 Bulletin T-340-21 Spencer v Canada.pdf

Quarantine is different as its actually in legislation. Mask wearing for healthy people, discriminatory travel bans, and coerced vaccinations are the main issues.

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yes, by all means go on.

How many are in court to prove wrong actions?

Oh, none are accepted or won their case?

You don’t know, actually.  There are cases before the courts and an Ontario judge has already granted a parent’s right to refuse a vaccine for her child.  Peckford has a big challenge before the court.  The use of the Emergencies Act is also under review.  I’ll only agree with you insofar as the courts are generally aligned politically with the Liberals, which is a huge problem.  The judge who ruled against Tamara Lich was a former Liberal candidate.  Not exactly blind justice.  Also, our press, which relies heavily on government funding, is hardly a free press anymore.  These facts are becoming increasingly clear to Canadians.  

[West]

9 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Yes, by all means go on.

How many are in court to prove wrong actions?

Oh, none are accepted or won their case?

So you are okay with politicians cooking up fake emergencies to throw protesters in jail? 

You'd be better served in Russia