Yzermandius19 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, dialamah said: Since you are so supportive of these people, can you explain why are they protesting at hospitals anyway; they have nothing to do with the immunization policies of the government? That just seems stupid to me. I don't think the protests solve anything and are a waste of time if not outright counterproductive but there is no good reason to restrict their free speech rights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxme Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: I don't think the protests solve anything and are a waste of time if not outright counterproductive but there is no good reason to restrict their free speech rights Many doctors and nurses are now refusing to take the jab. Why is that? Maybe it is because they have seen the many side effects and problems associated with those experimental gene therapy covid vaccines. They are probably seeing the many side effects that are occurring on people after they have taken those covid experimental vaccines which apparently is maiming and killing thousands of people every day around the world. Protests and demonstrations do appear to be a waste of time. Why? Because our comrade politicians completely ignore them and keep giving those who demonstrate the middle finger. And the lying Canadian media ignores those patriotic demonstrators altogether. Our lying politicians and the lying media and those so called health experts and officials appear to be working together hand in hand with the globalists and with their forced medical tyranny on we the sheeple. Canadians by the tens of thousands have been protesting against mask wearing and vaccine mandates and passports all summer long, and still we get more mandates placed on us all. What the hell is going on here anyway? I say that it is a globalist big pharma medical tyranny that is going on in Canada today. We the sheeple have pretty much lost all of our rights to freedom and freedom of choice. You either take the jab or else you will be treated as a second class citizen with no rights or freedoms anymore. The government will discriminate and segregate you from society, and you will not be allowed in a restaurant with family or friends, until you join the big pharma vaccine club of buffoons. Once they start with the booster jabs soon, I will really be behind. Chuckle. We, the no vaccinated,ones, are now being totally ignored by our traitorous politicians who do appear to have some skin in this covid virus vaccine game and hoax. They probably have plenty of stocks and shares in big pharma, so they all must keep this lie and hoax up and running. They love those dividends that they receive every month. Huge, no doubt. Hey, we never know, eh? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/25/2021 at 1:55 AM, Yzermandius19 said: there is no conflict between the two rights one right doesn't need to be curtailed to protect the other right But if there was a conflict…. Say the noise from protests right outside the hospital is hampering someone’s ability to recover, whose rights do you think should prevail…. Ther protestors, who can protest elsewhere? Or the patient who is stuck in the hospital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: But if there was a conflict…. Say the noise from protests right outside the hospital is hampering someone’s ability to recover, whose rights do you think should prevail…. Ther protestors, who can protest elsewhere? Or the patient who is stuck in the hospital? no one's recovery is in jeopardy because of protests get a grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: blocking access is already illegal no new law required But they will have already blocked access before they can be arrested. You obviously support blocking access to hospitals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: no one's recovery is in jeopardy because of protests get a grip Any idea what a hypothetical question is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Any idea what a hypothetical question is? your hypothetical is dumb no answer to it, that makes any sense, will result in the conclusion, that it's a good idea to ban these protests there is no reason for you to bring it up and no reason I should dignify such nonsense with a response Edited September 26, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: your hypothetical is dumb no answer to it, that makes any sense, will result in the conclusion, that it's a good idea to ban these protests there is no reason for you to bring it up and no reason I should dignify such nonsense with a response You think hypothetical questions about people’s competing rights are dumb? Do you agree that people’s rights do come into conflict on occasion? If one doesn’t try and think about these things beforehand, how could one determine the correct course of action? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: You think hypothetical questions about people’s competing rights are dumb? Do you agree that people’s rights do come into conflict on occasion? If one doesn’t try and think about these things beforehand, how could one determine the correct course of action? I think hypothetical questions which answers don't effect the legality of these protests one way or the other, based on the discussion are dumb, yeah very dumb Edited September 26, 2021 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said: I think hypothetical questions which answers don't effect the legality of these protests one way or the other, based on the discussion are dumb, yeah very dumb “Wednesday was Faulds’s 51-year-old brother, Ed Prentice’s, second to last day for chemotherapy. But because of the massive crowd, she had to drop her immunocompromised brother four or five blocks away.”https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/09/02/bc-cancer-patients-walk-protesters-appointment/ Do you think that a protest forcing a cancer patient getting chemo to walk 5 blocks through throngs of unmasked and unvaccinated protestors could pose any risk to the cancer patient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) That’s disgusting, chemo patients have extremely weakened immune systems. Edited September 26, 2021 by Aristides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: “Wednesday was Faulds’s 51-year-old brother, Ed Prentice’s, second to last day for chemotherapy. But because of the massive crowd, she had to drop her immunocompromised brother four or five blocks away.”https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/09/02/bc-cancer-patients-walk-protesters-appointment/ Do you think that a protest forcing a cancer patient getting chemo to walk 5 blocks through throngs of unmasked and unvaccinated protestors could pose any risk to the cancer patient? that is already illegal can't block access to a hospital no need to ban the entire protest to facilitate that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: that is already illegal can't block access to a hospital no need to ban the entire protest to facilitate that though So you think thousands of people should have been arrested? Is that realistic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: So you think thousands of people should have been arrested? Is that realistic? not thousands just the ones blocking access Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Quote Chemotherapy is the cancer treatment most likely to weaken the immune system. As chemotherapy medicines damage the bone marrow, the marrow is less able to produce enough red blood cells, white blood cells, and platelets. Typically, the greatest impact is on white blood cells. When you don’t have enough white blood cells, your body is more vulnerable to infection. Unfortunately the antivax/anti mask zealots couldn't care less. It's all about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: not thousands just the ones blocking access 5 blocks of people …. Do you think it’s realistic for police to arrest 5 blocks worth of people every time there’s a protest near a hospital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: 5 blocks of people …. Do you think it’s realistic for police to arrest 5 blocks worth of people every time there’s a protest near a hospital? No he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 16 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: 5 blocks of people …. Do you think it’s realistic for police to arrest 5 blocks worth of people every time there’s a protest near a hospital? do you think it’s feasible for the police to arrest even more than that to prevent the protests from taking place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 26, 2021 Report Share Posted September 26, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: do you think it’s feasible for the police to arrest even more than that to prevent the protests from taking place? They wouldn’t need to arrest people…. Just clear them out of the vicinity. Or have barricades to prevent them from going there. I’m glad we can agree that these protestors do indeed infringe on the rights of some of the patients. Edited September 26, 2021 by TreeBeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 5 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: I don't think the protests solve anything and are a waste of time if not outright counterproductive but there is no good reason to restrict their free speech rights It is not a right to prevent people from accessing health care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: It is not a right to prevent people from accessing health care. no one said it was it is a right to protest outside a hospital if you don't do that though that is what most of the protestors did and that shouldn't be .are illegal because that would be stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: no one said it was it is a right to protest outside a hospital if you don't do that though that is what most of the protestors did and that shouldn't be .are illegal because that would be stupid But it is. That’s what these people have been doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, TreeBeard said: Or have barricades to prevent them from going there. These are hospital medical staff out on their lunch. Barricades wont keep them out. The calls are coming from inside the house... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristides Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: These are hospital medical staff out on their lunch. Barricades wont keep them out. The calls are coming from inside the house... No they aren’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeBeard Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: These are hospital medical staff out on their lunch. Barricades wont keep them out. The calls are coming from inside the house... You think a large number of the protestors were on their lunch from the hospital? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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