Enough is enough. Ban protests outside hospitals.

[OftenWrong]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

No they aren’t.

Here, read up college boy.

New York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering employing the National Guard and out-of-state medical workers to fill hospital staffing shortages with tens of thousands of workers possibly losing their jobs for not meeting a Monday deadline for mandated COVID-19 vaccination.’

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-may-tap-national-guard-replace-unvaccinated-healthcare-workers-2021-09-26/

Seventy-five thousand health care workers in the state of NY alone.

[TreeBeard]

4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Here, read up college boy.

New York Governor Kathy Hochul is considering employing the National Guard and out-of-state medical workers to fill hospital staffing shortages with tens of thousands of workers possibly losing their jobs for not meeting a Monday deadline for mandated COVID-19 vaccination.’

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-may-tap-national-guard-replace-unvaccinated-healthcare-workers-2021-09-26/

Seventy-five thousand health care workers in the state of NY alone.

You’re saying NY State hospital workers are protesting at hospitals in Canada?  

Or did you just pull a bait and switch?

[OftenWrong]

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

You’re saying NY State hospital workers are protesting at hospitals in Canada?  

Or did you just pull a bait and switch?

Same is happening in Canada and other countries. This one is a clear example. I have seen similar happening in Toronto and Eastern ON, and in Quebec, and BC.

go ask google.

[Aristides]

24 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Same is happening in Canada and other countries. This one is a clear example. I have seen similar happening in Toronto and Eastern ON, and in Quebec, and BC.

go ask google.

Bullshit

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V.I.A. has also found that the group is relatively new, made up of some fired nurses, and represents a small minority of Canada’s healthcare workers. It has also been widely denounced by those working with COVID-19 patients across the country.

 

 

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/local-news/the-nurses-who-organized-vancouvers-anti-vax-protest-arent-who-you-think-they-are-4324683

[OftenWrong]

9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Bullshit

Oh, big bull. That means nothing around here.

go look up quebec, thousand of health care workers. 

That is thousands of people who have way more training in medical science than you.

[TreeBeard]

8 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Oh, big bull. That means nothing around here.

go look up quebec, thousand of health care workers. 

That is thousands of people who have way more training in medical science than you.

Thousands of medical workers are protesting hospitals that they work at?  I’ll need to see some evidence that there are thousands in the protest that are on their lunch break, as you claim.

[Aristides]

52 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Oh, big bull. That means nothing around here.

go look up quebec, thousand of health care workers. 

That is thousands of people who have way more training in medical science than you.

Interesting that none of the organizers of this group are practicing nurses yet supposedly they are on their lunch breaks.

These alleged nurses would picket their fellow workers and prevent immunocompromised cancer patient from getting to their appointments.

Edited September 27, 2021 by Aristides

[Yzermandius19]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

But it is. That’s what these people have been doing.

wrong

[Aristides]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

wrong

Right

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, Aristides said:

Right

some protesters doesn't equal all protesters

the ones you are talking about are obvious outliers

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

some protesters doesn't equal all protesters

the ones you are talking about are obvious outliers

I don't care, if protesters can't control their own that's tough. Our hospitals and the people who need them have to be protected. If protesters can't do that on their own it will have to be done for them, by whatever means necessary.

[Yzermandius19]

5 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I don't care, if protesters can't control their own that's tough. Our hospitals and the people who need them have to be protected. If protesters can't do that on their own it will have to be done for them, by whatever means necessary.

banning the protests isn't necessary

it isn't on all protesters to police their own

everyone is responsible for their own actions

not the actions of everyone else

no one cares if you don't care

you are not the arbiter of what is legal or should be legal

your whims are not more important than the rights of others

Edited September 27, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Aristides]

4 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

banning the protests isn't necessary

it isn't on all protesters to police their own

everyone is responsible for their own actions

not the actions of everyone else

No one has the right to force immunocompromised cancer patients to run a gauntlet of mouth breathing anti vax, anti mask zealots to get to appointments. The people who organize these protests and encourage the participants are responsible for this, not the patients and the people working in the hospitals. For FFS get over yourself.

 

These idiots are not making any friends with their actions, quite the opposite.

Edited September 27, 2021 by Aristides

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Aristides said:

No one has the right to force immunocompromised cancer patients to run a gauntlet of mouth breathing anti vax, anti mask zealots to get to appointments. The people who organize these protests and encourage the participants are responsible for this, not the patients and the people working in the hospitals. For FFS get over yourself.

 

These idiots are not making any friends with their actions, quite the opposite.

those who are responsible for it are responsible for it

and not a single person more than that

all protesters are not to be lumped in with the obvious outliers

[Aristides]

1 minute ago, Yzermandius19 said:

those who are responsible for it are responsible for it

and not a single person more than that

all protesters are not to be lumped in with the obvious outliers

I don't care, the result is the same and it cannot be allowed.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, Aristides said:

I don't care, the result is the same and it cannot be allowed.

the result is not the same

and it should be allowed

whether you care or not isn't relevant

your whims don't trump people's rights

[Aristides]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

the result is not the same

and it should be allowed

whether you care or not isn't relevant

your whims don't trump people's rights

 

It is the same, no one has the right to restrict access to hospitals. Your effing rights do not Trump that. You really don't give a crap what happens to others as long as you get to do what you want.

[Yzermandius19]

4 minutes ago, Aristides said:

 

It is the same, no one has the right to restrict access to hospitals. Your effing rights do not Trump that. You really don't give a crap what happens to others as long as you get to do what you want.

no one has the right to restrict access to hospitals

that is already illegal

I certainly have never suggested it should be legal

you are the one who doesn't give a crap what happens to others as long as you get what you want

I'm not one supporting taking away the rights of others based on my whims

that's you

Edited September 27, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Aristides]

16 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

no one has the right to restrict access to hospitals

that is already illegal

I certainly have never suggested it should be legal

you are the one who doesn't give a crap what happens to others as long as you get what you want

I'm not one supporting taking away the rights of others based on my whims

that's you

You are supporting these morons because you won't condemn them. Instead you hide behind others.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, Aristides said:

You are supporting these morons because you won't condemn them. Instead you hide behind others.

I have condemned those blocking access

the others deserve no condemnation

and they certainly don't deserve to have their rights taken away

[Aristides]

43 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

I have condemned those blocking access

the others deserve no condemnation

and they certainly don't deserve to have their rights taken away

No you haven’t. They do deserve condemnation. They show zero respect for health care workers and the people who depend on them. Whoever thought they could get main stream sympathy from harassing working health care workers and their patients is not dealing with a full deck and the people who make excuses for them are no better.

Edited September 27, 2021 by Aristides

[Yzermandius19]

16 minutes ago, Aristides said:

No you haven’t. They do deserve condemnation. They show zero respect for health care workers and the people who depend on them. Whoever thought they could get main stream sympathy from harassing working health care workers and their patients is not dealing with a full deck and the people who make excuses for them are no better.

I have condemned those blocking access to hospitals

I don't like public protests

whether I agree with protestors or not

but that doesn't mean there should be a law against it

whether I like something or agree with it, is not grounds to restrict others free speech rights

https://images.app.goo.gl/A6wy9keYK7c6u7Ax5

Edited September 27, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Aristides]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

I have condemned those blocking access to hospitals

I don't like public protests

whether I agree with protestors or not

but that doesn't mean there should be a law against it

https://images.app.goo.gl/A6wy9keYK7c6u7Ax5

Exclusion zones don't prohibit protests. Why are they protesting hospitals anyway? I can't think of anything more stupid unless they are just trying to stir up fellow wingnuts.

[Yzermandius19]

17 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Exclusion zones don't prohibit protests. Why are they protesting hospitals anyway? I can't think of anything more stupid unless they are just trying to stir up fellow wingnuts.

you not being able to think of a reason

why they should protest at hospitals

is not grounds to restrict other people's free speech rights

they should be allowed to protest outside of hospitals

whether they have a good reason to or not

there already are exclusion zones, that cover blocking access to hospitals

no change is required, simply enforce what is already on the books

Edited September 27, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Aristides]

23 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

you not being able to think of a reason

why they should protest at hospitals

is not grounds to restrict other people's free speech rights

they should be allowed to protest outside of hospitals

whether they have a good reason to or not

there already are exclusion zones, that cover blocking access to hospitals

no change is required, simply enforce what is already on the books

No they shouldn't. If they want to protest, they should do it where the rules are made. The same twits are penalizing businesses like restaurants for following the law. 

Your free speech rights don't override the rights of everyone else.