Should we all be required to swear an oath to the Queen of Canada before voting?

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, cougar said:

 Without a license to kill, must be tough.

yeah, I mean, I would really like to have that licence

but hey, you never know, we could end up in a civil war, breakdown of civil order, then payback is gonna be a bitch

[Yzermandius19]

56 minutes ago, cougar said:

Why would you even consider fighting the Soviets or any other nation for that matter??

If they are not waging war to you and not threatening to cross the border; why?

Because socialism is bad?  Where did that voice for democracy went?  If Soviets want to be a socialist country leave them be.

Tony Montana knows

carve em up real nice

at bayonet range

ftw

Edited June 18, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[cougar]

12 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

yeah, I mean, I would really like to have that licence

but hey, you never know, we could end up in a civil war, breakdown of civil order, then payback is gonna be a bitch

Why wait for miracles to happen?  As an alpha male apex predator you can always go against a griz with a knife and see who wins.

[Yzermandius19]

Just now, cougar said:

Why wait for miracles to happen?  As an alpha male apex predator you can always go against a griz with a knife and see who wins.

even the grizzlies are communists now?

fckn Canada

[cougar]

Just now, Yzermandius19 said:

even the grizzlies are communists now?

fckn Canada

You got that right.  They don't exploit other grizzlies, always take only what they need and give the rest away to the less fortunate.  Pure socialists....and verging on communists!!

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, cougar said:

Why wait for miracles to happen? 

I'm a Loyalist Orangeman of Upper Canada

we don't mass murder without the green light from HM The Queen

[Yzermandius19]

19 minutes ago, cougar said:

You got that right.  They don't exploit other grizzlies, always take only what they need and give the rest away to the less fortunate.  Pure socialists....and verging on communists!!

no wonder they live in the woods and don't build houses

can't generate enough wealth, can only redistribute what already exists, therefore low living standards

filthy communists everywhere in Canada

better dead than red

Edited June 18, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

24 minutes ago, cougar said:

 As an alpha male apex predator you can always go against a griz with a knife and see who wins.

since I'm a Homo Sapiens Sapiens apex predator, I can come up with better tools to use than a knife

but I only kill wild animals to eat them, it's not political, just lunch

[Argus]

19 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Well you have some good points in here.

You don't deny your history you embrace it.  Canada is and always has been a gradual evolution, it's the british way lol.  Canadians are british, french, and small parts of everyone else who makes up the nation.

But they need a sense of shared history, of pride in country. And when all they're being told every day is that the country's founding was illegitimate, that the land really belongs to the natives, that all our ancestors were scumbags, and that the country today is a racist hellhole, it's hard for the young in particular to feel any of that sense of shared history or pride.

[Argus]

16 hours ago, cougar said:

Why would you even consider fighting the Soviets or any other nation for that matter??

If they are not waging war to you and not threatening to cross the border; why?

Because a shared defense is all we have since we basically disbanded the military. We either help our allies defend themselves or throw ourselves on the mercy of whoever decides they want to punch us out. Our governments have ensured we have no way of defending ourselves against just about anyone.

[Dougie93]

the shared history is the central narrative, sometimes called the grand narrative

postmodernism is skeptical of all grand narratives, that is the core of the postmodern idoelogies

so it's a fools errand trying to get these radical postmodernist Progressives and their useful idiots to embrace your grand narrative

[Dougie93]

 at least two thirds if not three quarters of Canadians are either Woke, Crypto-Woke, or useful idiots for the Woke

so Sir John A. MacDonald is going away and he's not coming back

the defensive phase of this operation never actually happened, Canada was overrun in a Woke blitzkreig

this is the scorched earth phase now, where the best you can do is deny terrain to the enemy to buy time

[Dougie93]

this is not even a Woke mob in the street tearing Sir John A. MacDonald down now

this is the government tearing him down as policy now

the barbarians are all the way through the gates and into the temple itself now

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Raymond J. de Souza: With Macdonald's statue taken down in his hometown, what of the Canadian project itself?

KINGSTON — Sir John A. Macdonald’s statue was removed from City Park at first light on Friday morning. History — or at least historiography — is moving fast.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/ith-macdonalds-statue-taken-down-in-his-hometown-what-of-the-canadian-project-itself

 

 

Edited June 18, 2021 by Dougie93

[Moonlight Graham]

18 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

it's the same with Canada itself

in the grand scheme of things, nothing really bad has ever happened to me

I got everything I ever wanted in life, I got it all, I have no complaints about my personal life

but the institution of Canada is failing

to the threshold of totalitarianism now,  thought crime, which is an abomination

So that means you'll swear allegiance to the Queen of Canada before voting right?  LOL

[Dougie93]

Just now, Moonlight Graham said:

So that means you'll swear allegiance to the Queen of Canada before voting right?  LOL

I will decline to vote instead

a Solider of the Crown is a mercenary for the Queen

a politically agnostic servant of the Commander-in-Chief

my fealty is to Her Majesty personally, Her Praetorian Guard in effect

voting makes no difference either way, the Westminster Parliament in Canada has become moribund

the Prime Minister is an Oliver Cromwell like despot running the country centrally from his office as a Philosopher King

[Moonlight Graham]

21 hours ago, Army Guy said:

I'm sure he made his peace with dying, does not take long in an active war zone, where you see death and destruction 24 hours a day.. where you could die just taking a shit, or brushing your teeth... once you can over come the fear of dying the rest is easy, well it puts the little stuff into perspective like the dude in the grocery store "not worth the effort" besides you then you have the cops asking all kinds of questions "they don't understand" they see you as just another criminal with PTSD" charging you with assault, getting a criminal record, going to court ya not worth the effort. 

Well my gramps would never lay a finger on anyone (unless in self-defense I guess, but I never saw or heard of him doing that).  I don't mean tough like macho, I just mean he was literally fearless.  If someone cut in line he would always stand up for himself and tell the person exactly what he thought, and not let them get away with it.

 

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You can't fight city hall, or the will of the majority in this case the way the electoral system is set up... I've come to terms with it some what,  we do have a voice but nobody is willing to hear anything from the right, and the right is not strong enough to take back this country... I hope and pray that one day someone with charisma, knowledge, common sense, takes the reigns and gathers the best minds this country has to offer and puts together a team that can bring us back from the brink...and does what is best for the country, not special interest groups, or people with power and money, or the power over the media.  

Agreed.  I don't think it has to be left or right, just someone with common sense, empathy, integrity, and the balls to do things without being afraid of losing their job or election over it.  I'm not a fan of Trump, but that man had balls, and didn't give a rip what people thought, and that was attractive to a lot of Americans who were fed up.  We need someone like that, but much more reasonable, like a Jesse Ventura, who just tells it like it is, no fear.

Edited June 18, 2021 by Moonlight Graham

[Moonlight Graham]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

But they need a sense of shared history, of pride in country. And when all they're being told every day is that the country's founding was illegitimate, that the land really belongs to the natives, that all our ancestors were scumbags, and that the country today is a racist hellhole, it's hard for the young in particular to feel any of that sense of shared history or pride.

I agree, when all you hear is the negative while the schools and media don't teach us or remind us of the positive, the only people making noise about history are those with gripes from the past.  I don't blame those people hard done by for being angry at certain things, but what they need is justice, we don't have to feel shame and guilt for our entire existence, it's so dumb and destructive.  Like a cancer.  These people are out to destroy western civilization through their guilt.

Edited June 18, 2021 by Moonlight Graham

[Moonlight Graham]

40 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I will decline to vote instead

a Solider of the Crown is a mercenary for the Queen

a politically agnostic servant of the Commander-in-Chief

my fealty is to Her Majesty personally, Her Praetorian Guard in effect

voting makes no difference either way, the Westminster Parliament in Canada has become moribund

the Prime Minister is an Oliver Cromwell like despot running the country centrally from his office as a Philosopher King

If we had a philosopher king it might mean someone who actually has a brain and uses it to think rather than inventing ways to get more attention on himself.  Wouldn't be as bad as our literature major who is a silver spoon-fed prince that thinks he's a white knight out to save the indigenous, women etc while not actually living his own words.  You can't do that and then turn around grabbing female reporters, elbowing female MP's in Parliament, firing indigenous female attorney generals, and wearing blackface.  What a clown.  Everything he's ever done in his life is to get people to pay attention to him and make a big fuss over him.  Sounds like somebody whose daddy wasn't home very much as a child.  Look at me daddy!!  Look at me!!!

Edited June 18, 2021 by Moonlight Graham

[Dougie93]

9 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

If we had a philosopher king it might mean someone who actually has a brain and uses it to think rather than inventing ways to get more attention on himself.  Wouldn't be as bad as our literature major who is a silver spoon-fed prince that thinks he's a white knight out to save the indigenous, women etc while not actually living his own words.  You can't do that and then turn around grabbing female reporters, elbowing female MP's in Parliament, firing indigenous female attorney generals, and wearing blackface.  What a clown.  Everything he's ever done in his life is to get people to pay attention to him and make a big fuss over him.  Sounds like somebody whose daddy wasn't home very much as a child.  Look at me daddy!!  Look at me!!!

again, I serve a higher purpose, the story of my people, the Loyalist Orangemen of Upper Canada

we defend the Enlightenment itself by way of the Glorious Revolution of 1688

the office of the Queen is a legacy;  Westphalia, Westminster,  and the heir to the throne of Hanover

Granddaughter of George V, The People's King

 

Edited June 18, 2021 by Dougie93

[Army Guy]

21 hours ago, cougar said:

OK, OK,OK and what did you accomplish with that combat?

Not sure what your looking for here, so I'll stick with the facts .The main goal of our battle group was to bring to bear maximum violence and destruction upon our enemies, Taliban, and nearly 3 dozen terrorist groups,  their sense of security, their networks, their supply chains, and all who supported them.  The second goal was to provide security to the PRT, or Provincial Reconstruction Team , their job was to win hearts and minds, by building stuff, like drill fresh water wells, build roads and major paved highways, Major dam projects, schools , fire halls, set up electrical grids.

So what did we accomplish , we drove the the majority of the Taliban and terrorist into Pakistan , we gave peace to regions that had not seen it for decades, we gave girls of all ages a chance at getting an education, We gave hope to regions that feared the Taliban and their rule of death. we built paved roads kms and kms of them linking Afghanistan with Pakistan, we established new trade routes that were secure, we built a major dam and hydro plant, we gave villages new wells and fresh drinking water by the hundreds free of poisons or disease, we built schools, fire halls , police stations, re built hospitals, we allowed one generation to grow up without knowing what living under the Taliban is like. But most important thing was to bring my brothers and sisters home safely to their families... 

[Dougie93]

I have no interest in fighting the Taliban, they are not my enemy, I don't care who rules Afghanistan

when one takes the Queen's Schilling, one simply does one's duty

we were always told, if you can't live with the orders being issued, you can turn in your kit

so I did that just that, after honouring my contract to the letter first, simply declining to re enlist

Edited June 18, 2021 by Dougie93

[Moonlight Graham]

45 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

again, I serve a higher purpose, the story of my people, the Loyalist Orangemen of Upper Canada

we defend the Enlightenment itself by way of the Glorious Revolution of 1688

the office of the Queen is a legacy;  Westphalia, Westminster,  and the heir to the throne of Hanover

Granddaughter of George V, The People's King

 

Nations are just stories we tell ourselves, a narrative to derive meaning and belonging.

Maple Leafs vs Canucks.  All just hockey fans, divided into teams to root for and against, flying different flags, someone winning and someone losing,

Hitler pushed all sorts of bullshit myths to get the people to have feel a sense of togetherness and fight common enemies.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Nations are just stories we tell ourselves, a narrative to derive meaning and belonging.

Maple Leafs vs Canucks.  All just hockey fans, divided into teams to root for and against, flying different flags, someone winning and someone losing,

Hitler pushed all sorts of bullshit myths to get the people to have feel a sense of togetherness and fight common enemies.

if you can't tell the difference between Hitler & Westminster, I can't help you

[Moonlight Graham]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

if you can't tell the difference between Hitler & Westminster, I can't help you

The point is that every nation has its myths.  The US, Britain, Quebec, China...you just have to find the one that works and unites everyone.  Every national narrative contains truths, and leaves out others.  It's basically bullshit that derives meaning from a world devoid of any universal "truth"

If Canada's national narrative becomes "Canada is an irredeemable country built on stolen land and murder" then that's not going to be a united or successful country.  If it's something like "We have made mistakes, we are filled with many diverse groups and bicker as all families do, but at the end of the day we're one family in a great country" then that will have more success.  It's all how you frame reality.  Ideology is the same, it's filled with truth and leave out other truths, it's BS, but we all have to view the world somehow to function.

If whatever narrative you believe in, the Orangemen of whatever, gets you through the day, go for it.  I do the same, we all do, it keeps us sane and gives us something to believe in so we don't feel alone in the universe and devoid of something to love, strive for, and defend etc.  It takes a damn powerful story to convince people to fight and risk death for their country instead of grabbing their family and running for the hills.

Belief in God is the same.  Religion is total bullshit, but it gets people through the day, and helps them be kind to one another.  Cynicism comes from nihilism, when you realize everything is a lie and the world is cruel and meaningless.  Not a good way to live one's life.

Edited June 19, 2021 by Moonlight Graham

[cougar]

5 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Not sure what your looking for here, so I'll stick with the facts .The main goal of our battle group was to bring to bear maximum violence and destruction upon our enemies, Taliban, and nearly 3 dozen terrorist groups,  their sense of security, their networks, their supply chains, and all who supported them.  The second goal was to provide security to the PRT, or Provincial Reconstruction Team , their job was to win hearts and minds, by building stuff, like drill fresh water wells, build roads and major paved highways, Major dam projects, schools , fire halls, set up electrical grids.

So what did we accomplish , we drove the the majority of the Taliban and terrorist into Pakistan , we gave peace to regions that had not seen it for decades, we gave girls of all ages a chance at getting an education, We gave hope to regions that feared the Taliban and their rule of death. we built paved roads kms and kms of them linking Afghanistan with Pakistan, we established new trade routes that were secure, we built a major dam and hydro plant, we gave villages new wells and fresh drinking water by the hundreds free of poisons or disease, we built schools, fire halls , police stations, re built hospitals, we allowed one generation to grow up without knowing what living under the Taliban is like. But most important thing was to bring my brothers and sisters home safely to their families... 

Sorry, can't buy any of that.

If you rebuilt at least as much as your bombings destroyed, you would have restored the place to its original state.

But why would Canada or USA spend money on infrastructure in a foreign land "connecting Afghanistan with Pakistan"?   Nobody does anything in a capitalist world unless there is profit to be made from exploiting the resources of the land and its citizens.

Yes, you might have killed some of them. I doubt any saw you as a positive , building or peacekeeping force.

One way or another, we are out of there; the USA is going to be out of there and everything will go back to normal less those killed.

So in essence you accomplished nothing.

Why would I ever want to go into some desert on the other side of the globe to risk my life, take lives of people I do not understand and create trade routs between nowhere and nowhere?

 

Edited June 19, 2021 by cougar