Is Canada becoming a Communist state?

[Michael Hardner]

13 minutes ago, ron Young said:

Really? You really believe that? Multi culturalism is destroying Canada? And that Pierre Trudeau was the architect? 

No, no.  Sarcasm ?

[Dougie93]

multiculturalism is not the thing that destroyed Canada

the British Empire was multicultural, with India and Canada joining the Empire on the same day, 10 February 1763

[blackbird]

There is a news report on The Post Millennial:  "Trudeau government gives $828,000 grant to Wuhan lab where virus may have originated | The Post Millennial"  Can this really be true?   Another report on CNN says investigators have found there were cases of severe illness reported in the Wuhan Virology lab back in November of 2019, shortly before the Coronavirus reportedly began spreading.  This needs to be investigated further.  We also need further information as to what the Trudeau government's involvement with the virology lab in China was and for what purpose.  The public needs to know these critical things.  Why do we hear the American news outlet CNN talking about the sick cases in the Wuhan virology lab in November 2019, but not a word about it on Canadian news outlets?  We need to know if these were Covid cases and details about what was going on in that lab.  Nothing heard on CBC either about the government donating to the Wuhan lab.

Edited May 25, 2021 by blackbird

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

We also need further information as to what the Trudeau government's involvement with the virology lab in China was and for what purpose.  

If you want information, wait for real journalists to cover the issue - not comments-sections-scanners like the Post Millennial.  You are consuming junk information.

[Yzermandius19]

15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You are consuming junk information.

lots of news sources are reporting that the virus may have come from the Wuhan lab

according to US intelligence services

just because the news sources that are most pro-Chinese in Canada are slow on the draw

doesn't mean the information is junk

Edited May 25, 2021 by Yzermandius19

[Dougie93]

here's the original GoC source   Quote   https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2020/03/government-of-canada-invests-27m-in-coronavirus-research--details-of-the-funded-projects.html This research addresses the urgent need of rapid point-of-care diagnostics of COVID-19. The collaborative research is conducted by a multi-disciplinary team of virologists, chemists, infectious disease specialists, front-line practitioners, and public health researchers from the University of Alberta, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, and Wuhan Institute of Virology (China).  The immediate priority focuses on developing two complementary techniques to be performed on-site and in resource-limited settings, in support of rapid diagnosis of COVID-19. The diagnostic innovation takes advantage of the most recent advances in chemistry, molecular biology, genome technology, and nanotechnology. Chemical reactions required for efficient amplification and sensitive detection of the viral RNA take place in a single tube at a moderate temperature, simplifying the operation procedures. The specific reaction products are visible to the naked eyes, thus eliminating the need for any elaborate equipment. The first test reads color changes, with red color indicating negative and blue color indicating positive. Readout for the second test is color band on paper strips, similar to those of pregnancy tests, with two red bands indicating positive whereas a single control band indicating negative. The mid-term priority focuses on validating and evaluating the new diagnostic tests for field applications in the epidemic center of COVID-19. Our team members in Wuhan who currently perform the standard diagnostic tests will lead this effort. Once validated and approved, the new diagnostic tools will be used to support screening and diagnosis of COVID-19 at the community level. The mid-term objective also includes adapting the point-of-care diagnostics at other collaborating sites, e.g., Karachi (Pakistan) and Nairobi (Kenya). A longer-term priority of this research includes refining the new diagnostic tools to enable monitoring of mutational changes of the virus as it continues to evolve.

[Michael Hardner]

42 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

1. lots of news sources are reporting that the virus may have come from the Wuhan lab

2. just because the news sources that are most pro-Chinese in Canada are slow on the draw

3. doesn't mean the information is junk

1. Yes, and I think that's likely myself.
2. Which sources are ... uh .... "pro-Chinese" ?  

3. if the PostMillennial reported that the sky is blue then, yes, I would believe that.
 

[Michael Hardner]

15 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

here's the original GoC source

You are already a cut above many posters here by bringing true public information to a question.

You can already see how the PostMillenial tries to inflame and create clickbait... Canada didn't give money to the Wuhan lab, they are funding a collaborative project that includes Canadian researchers and some from that lab... on immediate impacts and diagnostic methods.

Seeing how they were there at the outset, it kind of makes sense.

Is it 'ok' that Canada is doing this ?  Is it justified ?  I would say that remains to be seen.  I personally don't understand why this is useful and given the amount of disinfo and distrust out there, the Government should be paying more attention to their #1 job: COMMUNICATION.

[Dougie93]

23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You are already a cut above many posters here by bringing true public information to a question.

I don't think clickbait is an effective way to bring the government down

the contemporary media is a mechanism which is intended to paralyze,  paralysis by analysis

 

[Dougie93]

this is Marshall McLuhan world, the medium is the message

the hot message of the media is paralyzing, it just makes you angry

revenge is a dish best served cold

[Dougie93]

ooh, somebody in the ranks has actually been charge with Mutiny

never seen that before

 

Quote

 

Soldier who called on troops to refuse vaccine distribution faces mutiny related charge

https://nationalpost.com/news/national/defence-watch/soldier-who-called-on-troops-to-refuse-vaccine-distribution-faces-mutiny-related-charge/wcm/b1c875de-21ca-4f69-b3bd-681483fda253

 

 

[Dougie93]

I've seen a lot of crimes in the army, troops who were selling drugs, troops who were robbing banks

but never mutiny

never once have I encountered anyone in the army counselling to disobey the chain of command

sea change

[Dougie93]

there was a time when Zeitgeist's army existed

the best small army in the world, the most professional soldiers on earth, punching well above our weight class

everybody would have gone over the top into the forlorn hope without hesitation if ordered

Canada has long destroyed that institution by now

you can only have so many Stalinist purges before the core of the army is broken beyond repair

the bonds have broken down, nobody trusts this chain of command anymore

the political class of Canada has poisoned its own wells

and what is their solution ?

more Stalinist purges, to root out the "Insurrectionists", which is everybody in the ranks to them

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/dnd-deputy-minister-sexual-misconduct-report-1.6037364

Edited May 25, 2021 by Dougie93

[Zeitgeist]

4 hours ago, blackbird said:

There is a news report on The Post Millennial:  "Trudeau government gives $828,000 grant to Wuhan lab where virus may have originated | The Post Millennial"  Can this really be true?   Another report on CNN says investigators have found there were cases of severe illness reported in the Wuhan Virology lab back in November of 2019, shortly before the Coronavirus reportedly began spreading.  This needs to be investigated further.  We also need further information as to what the Trudeau government's involvement with the virology lab in China was and for what purpose.  The public needs to know these critical things.  Why do we hear the American news outlet CNN talking about the sick cases in the Wuhan virology lab in November 2019, but not a word about it on Canadian news outlets?  We need to know if these were Covid cases and details about what was going on in that lab.  Nothing heard on CBC either about the government donating to the Wuhan lab.

What further crazy projects can this government throw money at?   Why is Canada funding any Chinese research facility for any reason, let alone one that produces biological weapons?   Damn right we need to know about this.  

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

this is Marshall McLuhan world, the medium is the message

the hot message of the media is paralyzing, it just makes you angry

revenge is a dish best served cold

McLuhan's Laws of Media apply here.  The new media make obsolete "the press", retrieve the "town hall", enhance "rhetoric", and reverses into anarchy.

[Michael Hardner]

25 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

What further crazy projects can this government throw money at?   Why is Canada funding any Chinese research facility for any reason, let alone one that produces biological weapons?   Damn right we need to know about this.  

The PM (PostMillennial) successfully pushed your button

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

 

you can only have so many Stalinist purges before the core of the army is broken beyond repair

 

Let's see how the one goes first.

I can see that Canada is at risk of becoming Communist but I don't think it IS becoming Communist.  Communists don't invite rich foreigners in, and are ven suspicious of other Communists.

[blackbird]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

If you want information, wait for real journalists to cover the issue - not comments-sections-scanners like the Post Millennial.  You are consuming junk information.

That's easy to answer.  If you too tried Google you would easily find my comment was not junk information.  This is strong evidence the Post Millennial article was factual contrary to what you think.

"

US liberal media's Covid U-turn: A year after TRASHING theory that COVID originated from a Wuhan lab because Trump supported the suggestion - America's woke mainstream news outlets suddenly start asking if it's true!

The first reported fatality from COVID-19 was in Wuhan, China, on January 11, 2020

By January 21 the virus was in the U.S.; a week later The Washington Times speculated about a 'lab leak'

The suggestion, picked up by Trump and embraced by China hawks, was ridiculed by the left-wing media 

A year later, a growing acceptance of the possibility of a 'lab leak' has formed - ignoring past skepticism

Dr Anthony Fauci, the nation's top public health official, now says that he believes it is possible

The WHO sent a team to investigate earlier this year but were not given full access to China's laboratories  "

A year after left-wing news TRASHED theory that COVID originated in Wuhan lab outlets now BACK idea | Daily Mail Online

Edited May 25, 2021 by blackbird

[blackbird]

6 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

The PM (PostMillennial) successfully pushed your button

No, it's not just the Post Millennial reporting on it.

"Ottawa funds COVID-19 research project that is collaborating with Wuhan virus lab"  - Ottawa funds COVID-19 research project that is collaborating with Wuhan virus lab - The Globe and Mail

Once again Google easily finds the answer.

[Michael Hardner]

10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

That's easy to answer.  If you too tried Google you wouldn't easily find my comment was not junk information.

"

US liberal media's Covid U-turn: A year after TRASHING theory that COVID originated from a Wuhan lab because Trump supported the suggestion - America's woke mainstream news outlets suddenly start asking if it's true!

The first reported fatality from COVID-19 was in Wuhan, China, on January 11, 2020

By January 21 the virus was in the U.S.; a week later The Washington Times speculated about a 'lab leak'

The suggestion, picked up by Trump and embraced by China hawks, was ridiculed by the left-wing media 

A year later, a growing acceptance of the possibility of a 'lab leak' has formed - ignoring past skepticism

Dr Anthony Fauci, the nation's top public health official, now says that he believes it is possible

The WHO sent a team to investigate earlier this year but were not given full access to China's laboratories  "

A year after left-wing news TRASHED theory that COVID originated in Wuhan lab outlets now BACK idea | Daily Mail Online

I already said I think it came from a lab.  The sources you quote are bad, but real sources have already posted on this.

And none of this is the same as the original story you sourced.

[Michael Hardner]

5 minutes ago, blackbird said:

No, it's not just the Post Millennial reporting on it.

"Ottawa funds COVID-19 research project that is collaborating with Wuhan virus lab"  - Ottawa funds COVID-19 research project that is collaborating with Wuhan virus lab - The Globe and Mail

 

Note the differences in the Globe and Mail story.  The PostMIllennial is a hack publication that doesn't check its facts.

It's not Google that helped you, it's a real newspaper.

[blackbird]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I already said I think it came from a lab.  The sources you quote are bad, but real sources have already posted on this.

And none of this is the same as the original story you sourced.

All of this is related to the subject of Canada becoming Communist.  Canada's involvement with a virology lab in Communist China raises big questions about what Canada's relationship is with Communist China.  That is a lab that could be involved in producing biological weapons to use against the west, including us.  All these questions are interconnected in some way.

[blackbird]

13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I already said I think it came from a lab.  The sources you quote are bad, but real sources have already posted on this.

And none of this is the same as the original story you sourced.

Already explained that the question 'Is Canada becoming Communist" is inter-related with all these questions.  Canada has been too deeply involved with China for years.

[Dougie93]

26 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Let's see how the one goes first.

I can see that Canada is at risk of becoming Communist but I don't think it IS becoming Communist.  Communists don't invite rich foreigners in, and are ven suspicious of other Communists.

as I say, there is no such thing as a Communist country, that's not how Communism works

it's a secular religion, Communism is the secular Heaven which is achieved someday, by the World Socialist Revolution

if the World Socialist Revolution were achieved, ostensibly there would be no more need for countries at all

Communism is a post scarcity utopia, you don't need countries anymore at that point, it's a one world government

[Michael Hardner]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

All of this is related to the subject of Canada becoming Communist.  Canada's involvement with a virology lab in Communist China raises big questions about what Canada's relationship is with Communist China.  

What about if America is doing the same thing ?  Other countries ?  Didn't China become Capitalist, not the other way around ?

As American and Chinese officials meet this week, they can take inspiration from the collaboration and healthy competition on combating the COVID-19 pandemic taking place between their scientists,