Is Canada becoming a Communist state?

[Zeitgeist]

15 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

whatever helps you sleep at night

I think most Canadians are aware that Quebec has Canada over a barrel

what is Canada going to do if they ignore the Clarity Act ?

send the troops in ?

what troops ? Canada has dismantled its own military

the Republic of Quebec would hand Canada its asses in any sort of fight

The federal government owns and has total jurisdiction over the military, ports, railways, and waterways, including the St. Lawrence Seaway.  Montreal has always staunchly supported Canada, so when you strip out all that population and infrastructure, not to mention northern Quebec which is heavily Indigenous and under federal education, health, and infrastructure, what’s left?

Actually though, Quebec is unlikely to ever leave because it’s at the core of Canadian government establishment.  Quebec actually fights to retain what many of us would call old Canada.  Its influence is reflected in northern Ontario, Acadia, French settlements, and publicly funded Catholic education as far as Alberta (now gone from Quebec ironically).  Quebec is live and well and consolidating its power in Canada.  If anything, it’s old English Canada that stopped bothering, except in terms of our parliamentary democracy and the shapes of our towns and cities, which definitely reflect the Empire.  Old Canada is an amalgamation of the Roman (not Italian but French) and British Empires with multiple Indigenous nations.  New Canada is multicultural and anti-colonial.  The tensions between old and new Canada are greater than the tensions between English and French Canada.  In many ways Quebec is carrying the torch for old Canada.  

Edited May 23, 2021 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The federal government owns and has total jurisdiction over the military, ports, railways, and waterways, including the St. Lawrence Seaway.  Montreal has always staunchly supported Canada, so when you strip out all that population and infrastructure, not to mention northern Quebec which is heavily Indigenous and under federal education, health, and infrastructure, what’s left?

Actually though, Quebec is unlikely to ever leave because it’s at the core of Canadian government establishment.  Quebec actually fights to retain what many of us would call old Canada.  Its influence is reflected in northern Ontario, Acadia, French settlements, and publicly funded Catholic education as far as Alberta (now gone from Quebec ironically).  Quebec is live and well and consolidating its power in Canada.  

it's not so much that Quebec is going to leave

rather the Confederation itself will simply dissolve into irrelevance and everybody will be out by default

[Zeitgeist]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

it's not so much that Quebec is going to leave

rather the Confederation itself will simply dissolve into irrelevance and everybody will be out by default

What’s the upside?   It’s good to have national infrastructure, movement, and projects, even if they’re hard to get off the ground these days.  It’s not like the US is building lots of pipelines.  

[Yzermandius19]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

What’s the upside?   It’s good to have national infrastructure, movement, and projects, even if they’re hard to get off the ground these days.  It’s not like the US is building lots of pipelines.  

Confederation gets in the way

you'll get more without it than with it

the whole is lesser than the sum of it's parts

[Dougie93]

it has always been the case that Ottawa has divided & conquered the provinces

pitted them against each other in order to keep them down on the Confederation farm

but now Ottawa has become so desperate, they have resorted to the Hegelian Dialectic

this is where Communism comes into play

the Hegelian Dialectic is all about smashing the contradictions of a society together, to force change of some sort

the change the Liberals are trying to force is the imposition of their Post National State

they are smashing the contradictions of Canada together to make it happen, classically Hegelian

the problem for Canada is that the contradictions of Canada are the provinces themselves

all the provinces are adversaries to one another to start off with

so smashing all this together in an Hegelian Dialectical class war, is cracking the foundations of the Confederation itself

they are bringing God, Queen, Country down, in favour of a pseudo Communist people's republic

Canada is simply not structurally made to take this pounding, so it will at some point tip the apple cart in the process

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

What’s the upside?  

Quebec is a de facto ethno nationalist republic

your Anglo Canadian paradigm of doing a cost benefit analysis does not apply in Quebec

nations are not about cost benefit, they are about love

it's not rational, it's about emotion

Canada of course doesn't have that, because Canada is a fake country

Quebec is the only country here, which is why faking it Canada doesn't stand a chance in any dispute with Quebec

 

[Zeitgeist]

9 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Confederation gets in the way

you'll get more without it than with it

the whole is lesser than the sum of it's parts

I do think Ontario would kick ass in or out of Confederation, but I don’t think that’s the case for all parts of Canada and most Canadians are very proud of Canada, despite the radical anarcho-commie wokesters.

Perhaps the reason English Canada doesn’t pipe up and assert herself is because it plays the unifier.  There’s a great English Canadian heritage, even if it’s not as prominent or promoted as Quebec’s.  Visit the properties of Halifax, Lunenberg, St. Andrews By The Sea, Newfoundland, Niagara, Muskoka, Kingston, Lake Louise, Victoria. It’s plentiful, beautiful, and understated, which is very English indeed.  

Edited May 23, 2021 by Zeitgeist

[Dougie93]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

I do think Ontario would kick ass in or out of Confederation, but I don’t think that’s the case for all parts of Canada and most Canadians are very proud of Canada, despite the radical anarcho-commie wokesters.  

every province will adapt to the new paradigm

it doesn't even require Canada to officially disolve

Ottawa is becoming ever more irrelevant by default, clinging to power cravenly for its own sake

the Confederation will crumble by these means, that is already in progress

Canada will become more & more irrelevant overtime, until it is nothing more than window dressing

[Zeitgeist]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

every province will adapt to the new paradigm

it doesn't even require Canada to officially disolve

Ottawa is becoming ever more irrelevant by default, clinging to power cravenly for its own sake

the Confederation will crumble by these means, that is already in progress

Canada will become more & more irrelevant overtime, until it is nothing more than window dressing

Maybe that’s the best kind of federal government, a loose confederation that empowers the provinces.  Canada can and does still have great value, most Canadians think.  

[Dougie93]

all the relevant services in your life are delivered by your province

healthcare, education, public works, all that sort of thing is provincial

Ottawa is simply a parasite

the federal government delivers nothing of value

it is just one big self licking ice cream cone, which is now owned by the Communist Chinese in Beijing

f*ck Canada is the only honourable position now, if you are Loyalist to Victoria Regina Imperatrix

which most Canadians are not, luckily for the Nabobs in Ottawa who need bribe them into compliance

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Maybe that’s the best kind of federal government, a loose confederation that empowers the provinces.  Canada can and does still have great value, most Canadians think.  

but Ottawa does not empower the provinces, quite the opposite

it's a shotgun marriage, the provinces all hate each other and Ottawa too

the only thing keeping Canada from going to war with itself, is the monarchist referee at Buckingham Palace

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

all the relevant services in your life are delivered by your province

healthcare, education, public works, all that sort of thing is provincial

Ottawa is simply a parasite

the federal government delivers nothing of value

it is just one big self licking ice cream cone, which is now owned by the Communist Chinese in Beijing

f*ck Canada is the only honourable position now, if you are Loyalist to Victoria Regina Imperatrix

which most Canadians are not, luckily for the Nabobs in Ottawa who need bribe them into compliance

I’m a Loyalist but also a Canadian federalist, though I agree there are expenses and compromises.  Still worthwhile.  I just don’t like when certain key components of a nation are neglected, as with vaccine production, though we’ve come far quickly on the vaccination front.  Still pissed, as I am about not having Energy East (thanks Quebec).  

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said:

I’m a Loyalist but also a Canadian federalist

those two things have now come into conflict

as the federalists have become a pseudo Communist Hegelian Dialectical utopian doomsday cult owned by Beijing

I am forced to disavow them in the name of the Commander-in-Chief Herself, honour & oath demands it

[Zeitgeist]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

those two things have now come into conflict

as the federalists have become a pseudo Communist Hegelian Dialectical utopian doomsday cult owned by Beijing

I am forced to disavow them in the name of the Commander-in-Chief Herself, honour & oath demands it

At times I agree, which is why we have to protect our great traditions.

[Dougie93]

Just now, Zeitgeist said:

At times I agree, which is why we have to protect our great traditions.

if you are Loyalist, Orangeman of Upper Canada, stalwart defender of Her Majesty

you have no choice but to disavow this illegitimate governance of Liberal Party of Canada traitors

you invoke the oaths that I have taken, to you it is a word game, to me it is the light of civilization itself

[blackbird]

3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

At times I agree, which is why we have to protect our great traditions.

When I listen to Trudeau or liberals promote carbon taxes and hear Erin O'Toole reply with his own form of carbon tax which he claims is not a tax, I do think it is a "Hegelian dialectic" debate.  Sickening!  All deceptive semantics.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 I do think it is a "Hegelian dialectic" debate.  Sickening!  All deceptive semantics.

just bear in mind that there is not such thing as a Communist Country

Communism is not a journey, it is an end state, a result, a destination

the journey is the Hegelian Dialectic, that is the process by which Communism shall supposedly be achieved

[Zeitgeist]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

When I listen to Trudeau or liberals promote carbon taxes and hear Erin O'Toole reply with his own form of carbon tax which he claims is not a tax, I do think it is a "Hegelian dialectic" debate.  Sickening!  All deceptive semantics.

While I don’t know how Hegel gets dragged into this, except in the sense that Marx adapted the dialectic, I agree that there is very little difference anymore between the federal parties that have official party status, which have all become left leaning liberal.  I think the Liberals of St. Laurent or King’s days would be disgusted with what has become of the Liberals and federal politics.  

[Dougie93]

you will note for example that it is the People's Republic of China not the Communist Republic of China

why ?

because Communism has not been acheived

Communism is a post scarcity utopia which will only be achieved when the whole world has succumb to it

Communism eliminates the need for politics, Communism is like Shangri-La, you don't need republics there

in the meantime, until this secular leftist Heaven is at hand ?

there is a policy of Socialism In One Country

that was Stalin's policy, which is why it is no surprise that Xi Jingping has become the new Stalin

Edited May 23, 2021 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

and this is how Canada is now becoming Stalinist in of itself, creeping totalitarian dictatorship

Canada's socialism can't compete in the world markets anymore than say Cuba's can

so this is where you are forced to adopt the Socialism In One Country model

and that model is Stalinist by default, because it requires a brutal dictatorship to keep the people from the free world

[Dougie93]

this is why the Liberals have now come to persecuting the Christians

cracking down on Christians trying to worship in contravention of the orders of the power elites

the greatest threat to Communists is Jehovah, the God fearing cannot be turned

God, Queen, Country is the bulwark against the Liberals, and God is the last line of defence in that triumvirate

[blackbird]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

and this is how Canada is now becoming Stalinist in of itself, creeping totalitarian dictatorship

Canada's socialism can't compete in the world markets anymore than say Cuba's can

so this is where you are forced to adopt the Socialism In One Country model

and that model is Stalinist by default, because it requires a brutal dictatorship to keep the people from the free world

You notice how Trudeau's committee to find potential candidates to be the new Governor General is taking months.  This delay is because Trudeau and Liberals hate the idea of having to appoint someone higher than the PM who might sometime have authority over them.  It goes against the grain of authoritarian, totalitarian mentality of dictators.  They must take their time to find someone who will be submissive to the will of the PM.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, blackbird said:

You notice how Trudeau's committee to find potential candidates to be the new Governor General is taking months.  This delay is because Trudeau and Liberals hate the idea of having to appoint someone higher than the PM who might sometime have authority over them.  It goes against the grain of authoritarian, totalitarian mentality of dictators.  They must take their time to find someone who will be submissive to the will of the PM.

indeed, the Trudeaulissimo is meant to replace the Crown itself

no Governor General is required, as the Trudeaulissimo rules centrally from his office, as de facto Viceroy

[Dougie93]

but again, the majority of Canadians, certainly the younger generation, are totally Americanized

they think Canada is a republic, they have no concept of how the Confederation actually works

the Liberal Party of Canada Maple Leaf flag is like the Swastika

the Liberal Party of Woke Canada anthem is like the Horst Wessel song

like the Nazis, the Liberals are erasing Canadian history and replacing it with their own Reich

this is a tried and true method of totalitarians

a people without a history are easy to control

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

What’s the upside?   It’s good to have national infrastructure, movement, and projects, even if they’re hard to get off the ground these days.  It’s not like the US is building lots of pipelines.  

 

The U.S. is building lots of pipelines, with many projects underway and planned.   This includes new pipelines and replacement/upgrades for petroleum, distillates, and natural gas.   Oil shale basins and fracking led to lots of building in the past five years.  The Texas and Louisiana coasts are going nuts with LNG terminal construction.

The U.S. is now the largest petroleum producing nation in the world, and that means more capacity to export product.   Some pipeline projects are delayed or canceled (e.g. KXL), but it is not accurate to say that the U.S. is not building lots of pipelines.

...now back to Canada.