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23 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Yes....Canada can be a stepping stone to the U.S. for some immigrants, especially after their first cold ass winter !

 

It seemed to be some sort of co-op system...first you get crappy store in crappy town. Then move-on up to the East Side, so to speak.

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Just now, DogOnPorch said:

 

It seemed to be some sort of co-op system...first you get crappy store in crappy town. Then move-on up to the East Side, so to speak.

 

Indeed....I saw this first hand in the IT industry...work visas...green cards...etc.   Canada was used for an immigrant labour parking orbit around the U.S. economy...in and out based on projects and funding (they work a lot cheaper).

President Trump messed with that pipeline and gravy train for the international body shops, especially India.   Biden will restore some of that for sure to please his globalist friends/corps.

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3 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Trumpers are Constitutionalists by what I've observed. They love the idea of a rule book that all play from...even you...even Mark Zuckerberg...even Donald J Trump.

LMAO yeah right!  Trumpsters are the antithesis of people who believe in a rule book for everyone.  For them, right or wrong is based solely on the logic of “who’s side are you on”.  

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16 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO yeah right!  Trumpsters are the antithesis of people who believe in a rule book for everyone.  For them, right or wrong is based solely on the logic of “who’s side are you on”.  

 

Democrats believe that there should be different rules for different groups according to skin colour & sex. Equity of outcome is far more essential to the socialist thinking than equality of opportunity. No tall grass, please.

Also, everybody is either an oppressor or a victim. No in-between.

Those folks that go for this sort of eugenics BS like it and see no issue, mind-you. Yourself included, I assume. Judging people by their group is just natural...and the individual is of no value without the collective.

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6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Democrats believe that there should be different rules for different groups according to skin colour & sex. Equity of outcome is far more essential to the socialist thinking than equality of opportunity. No tall grass, please.

Also, everybody is either an oppressor or a victim. No in-between.

Those folks that go for this sort of eugenics BS like it and see no issue, mind-you. Yourself included, I assume. Judging people by their group is just natural...and the individual is of no value without the collective.

That’s not true you are just blind to the fact that there is no real “equality of opportunity” in society.  There will always be people who have far more opportunity than the norm and those who have far less. And the former is always trying to take more from the latter. 

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4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

That’s not true you are just blind to the fact that there is no real “equality of opportunity” in society.  There will always be people who have far more opportunity than the norm and those who have far less. And the former is always trying to take more from the latter. 

 

Meh...it's just as true as anything else. That how the Trumpers see YOU...Commie.

:lol:

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2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

The GOP is lousy with white supremacists and anti-semites. Doesn’t mean they all are. But it’s a growing Republican faction 

STop quoting the liars at CNN and in the Dem party.

This isn't a liberal echo chamber.

You need a cite to make a serious accusation like that.

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7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

But all that REALLY matters at the end  of the day is this:  it’s better to live in Canada than the US. Because the quality of life is better. Everything else is unimportant. 

Yes, but the next question is how much longer can we maintain our quality of life as things unravel and unwind south of the border?

We are already getting stuck with going along with their demands to increase our commitments and contributions to NATO's war efforts (I mean defense).

And that will leave us the same ballooning deficits they've taken on and we'll be under increasing pressure to cut funding from Medicare and privatize more and more hospital and medical services. It will be tougher to maintain the Canadian advantage in quality of life!

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15 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

Meh...it's just as true as anything else. That how the Trumpers see YOU...Commie.

:lol:

I don’t really care how uneducated idiots with less than high school education see me. There’s so much about this world that they don’t know and can’t even comprehend. 

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8 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

I don’t really care how uneducated idiots with less than high school education see me. There’s so much about this world that they don’t know and can’t even comprehend. 

 

If there was only a place you could put all those despicable Trumpers you hate so much. A farm perhaps...or a camp.

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16 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Wait this is on CNN?   How is this possible you rightists always claim CNN is liberal propaganda   It’s almost like you’re full of shit or something!

Avoiding the lying of the liar in chief huh?  Not surprised.

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19 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Nevertheless, and as a matter of national economic policy regardless of ruling party, Canada sold out for more American control (foreign direct investment) and access to the U.S. market.

President Biden is going to continue this one-sided economic relationship, and he is a friend to globalism.  

Canadians have made these choices, wanted or not.

Correction! Canadian Ruling Class Profiteers, NOT Canadians!

Or at least, not Canadian workers, who only have the voting franchise during normal times, and have to turn to strikes, blockades and revolutions when conditions get bad enough....and maybe that's not too far away now. 

We weren't sure what exactly was coming at us 30 years ago, except that we would lose much or most of our national sovereignty, and the big argument back then was over which of the three countries would profit the most from "free trade."  But, we knew something was up, because so many Canadian manufacturing operations (especially branch plants set up for the Canadian market) were being closed down even before the ink was dry on the treaty! The business leaders already knew what they were getting, while they kept us in the dark.

We envisioned that all our jobs would be headed for hicksville in the southern states or Mexico, while US workers focused laser-like at Mexico, unless they feared the declining Canadian Dollar was pushing more automotive production into Ontario and Quebec. 

But, as it all turned out, most of the manufacturing would eventually end up in China and the Far East. Karl Marx declared years ago that capitalists were so shortsighted and profit-focused, that they would dig their own graves for short term gains, if provided the shovels. And that's pretty much what has happened under both D's and R's.

Only difference now, is that the Dems are so dependent on high tech now, and currying favor with its new oligarchs and PMC support staff, that they don't even bother talking to average workers anymore! This is worse than Republicans, who are still trying to pull in as many white, disenfranchised working class with dangerous white identity appeals, that they are able to win most of the former longtime Democrat strongholds in the middle of the country.

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6 minutes ago, Right To Left said:

Correction! Canadian Ruling Class Profiteers, NOT Canadians!

Or at least, not Canadian workers, who only have the voting franchise during normal times, and have to turn to strikes, blockades and revolutions when conditions get bad enough....and maybe that's not too far away now. 

We weren't sure what exactly was coming at us 30 years ago,

 

 

Yes...many Canadian workers too, despite years of warnings from anti FTA/NAFTA authors like Maude Barlow.   Clearly enough Canadians supported the ruling government's choices then, and even more support the continuation of such policies now (NAFTA 2.0).  The Liberals hated NAFTA...now they LOVE it.

The main reason that U.S. manufacturing companies had subsidiaries in Canada was because of Canada's barriers and tariffs for non Commonwealth enterprises.   As an example, EMD London was never a Canadian owned company, just a cross border dodge to beat tariffs on locomotives.

NAFTA actually helped more than the Auto Pact of 1965, but decisions made in Ontario did just as much to drive 100,000 jobs away and close plants as did anything about jobs going to China or Mexico.

Now American concerns own or control 50% of Canada's manufacturing base and a good portion of petroleum/bitumen production, along with other foreign ownership.   And now China wants to eat Canada's lunch too.

Joe Biden is a product of that time, and there is little reason to believe he will not resume the protectionism and union vote posturing of the past.    Either way, Canada is too dependent on the U.S. economy and should diversify much more, invest more in R&D, keep educated skill base at home, and tear down barriers between provincial trade.

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5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Proud Boys, QAnon, David Duke , Jewish Space Lasers, KKK endorsement, Steve King to name just a few

There's nothing actually wrong the Proud Boys from what I've ever seen or heard. They've done billions of dollars less in damage and committed less (maybe zero?) murders and terrorist attacks than BLM and Antifa by any reasonable measure. I'd have to have some damaging info about the Proud boys from a reputable source before I started to care about them. 

QAnon, whatever that is, is just a right-wing version of CNN or CTV. Reprehensible for sure, but they're just another disinformation source. I don't know how you could possible object to such a thing. 

Not sure what Jewish Space lasers refers to, is that some group of people who are just as stupid as the Russian collusion crowd? 

KKK endorsement and Steve King is the equivalent of the islamic state endorsement, which has gone to the Liberals and the Democrats. Do you feel like the islamic state endorsement is better?

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

There's nothing actually wrong the Proud Boys from what I've ever seen or heard. They've done billions of dollars less in damage and committed less (maybe zero?) murders and terrorist attacks than BLM and Antifa by any reasonable measure. I'd have to have some damaging info about the Proud boys from a reputable source before I started to care about them. 

QAnon, whatever that is, is just a right-wing version of CNN or CTV. Reprehensible for sure, but they're just another disinformation source. I don't know how you could possible object to such a thing. 

Not sure what Jewish Space lasers refers to, is that some group of people who are just as stupid as the Russian collusion crowd? 

KKK endorsement and Steve King is the equivalent of the islamic state endorsement, which has gone to the Liberals and the Democrats. Do you feel like the islamic state endorsement is better?

Omg proud boys have bee indicted for the Capitol riot and designated a terrorist group you're defending a white supremacist group that attacked the US government  because they did fewer dollars in property damage than Black rioters?  Hilarious. And very racist  

Also another white supremacist group Oath Keepers has been indicted for the Capitol attack and conspiracy. This group was also the personal bodyguard  for Trump buddy and convicted criminal Roger Stone. 
 

Crackpot Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green once promoted on Twitter the theory that California forest fires were started by space-based Lasers controlled byJews.  Of course now she’s trying to walk it back. 
 

Steve King was a Republican Congressman and an open unapologetic white supremacist. Like literally there’s no bending the truth or equivocation you can do on that. 
 

Im not sure what your ISIS claim is about but the Taliban endorsed Trump. And of the 3 groups only the Kkk can actually vote for anyone and they voted for trump

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3 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Omg proud boys have bee indicted for the Capitol riot and designated a terrorist group you're defending a white supremacist group that attacked the US government  because they did fewer dollars in property damage than Black rioters?  Hilarious. And very racist  

Go to hell you mouthy little racist.

The Dems have shown so much outright support for known domestic terrorists that their opinion on the matter is worthless, and they call everyone who doesn't regurgitate their propaganda racist so the fact that they hate the Proud Boys is most likely a good reason to like them. 

I've never seen any evidence that the Proud Boys are a racist group, and yes it's an absolute certainty that they have done far less damage to the country than Antifa BLM, and you're glossing over the fact that BLM has a lot of blood on their hands. The Proud Boys have zero blood on their hands. 

And how is any of that racist?

BLM is actually a racist group by definition, and they're organized by one of America's foremost domestic terrorists. 

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Also another white supremacist group Oath Keepers has been indicted for the Capitol attack and conspiracy. This group was also the personal bodyguard  for Trump buddy and convicted criminal Roger Stone. 

Cite....?

This is gonna be good lol. I can't wait to see what garbage site you're getting this from. 

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Crackpot Republican Congresswoman Marjorie Taylor Green once promoted on Twitter the theory that California forest fires were started by space-based Lasers controlled byJews.  Of course now she’s trying to walk it back. 

Cite

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Steve King was a Republican Congressman and an open unapologetic white supremacist. Like literally there’s no bending the truth or equivocation you can do on that. 

Steve King was weeded out of the Republican party under that awesome President Trump. His funding was taken away in 2018 and he was primaried and lost in 2020.

The Dems are rife with bigotry. Omar is openly bigoted and she's still a prominent member of the Dems. Obama is chummy with Farrakhan. They openly support BLM and call for the defunding of police. Buy a clue. 

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Im not sure what your ISIS claim is about but the Taliban endorsed Trump. And of the 3 groups only the Kkk can actually vote for anyone and they voted for trump

0.000% of muslim terrorists vote for the GOP or Conservatives. The Dems and Liberals run cover for them. 

"It's too early to say that the guy who [insert anything that starts with "yelled praises to allah" and ends with: before he slaughtered children outside of the Arianna Grande concert, gunned down 49 gays at the Pulse night club, killed a bunch people with a van] was an islamic terrorist. This is a gun control issue and a Republican hate issue!" - the Dems 

Honest to god, any muslim terrorist sympathizer who doesn't fully support the Dems is an idiot.

Muslim votes in Canada are the property of the liberal party: https://torontosun.com/news/national/canadian-muslim-voting-guide-breached-federal-law-elections-commissioner

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8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Go to hell you mouthy little racist.

The Dems have shown so much outright support for known domestic terrorists that their opinion on the matter is worthless, and they call everyone who doesn't regurgitate their propaganda racist so the fact that they hate the Proud Boys is most likely a good reason to like them. 

I've never seen any evidence that the Proud Boys are a racist group, and yes it's an absolute certainty that they have done far less damage to the country than Antifa BLM, and you're glossing over the fact that BLM has a lot of blood on their hands. The Proud Boys have zero blood on their hands. 

And how is any of that racist?

BLM is actually a racist group by definition, and they're organized by one of America's foremost domestic terrorists. 

Hahaha you’re a Proud Boy apologist 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/who-are-proud-boys-11601485755

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5868406002
 

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Cite....?

This is gonna be good lol. I can't wait to see what garbage site you're getting this from. 

Six Oath Keepers Who Guarded Roger Stone Stormed the Capitol: NYT

https://www.thedailybeast.com/six-oath-keepers-who-guarded-roger-stone-stormed-the-capitol-the-new-york-times-reports

 

Roger Stone Used Oath Keepers as Security on the Eve of the Capitol Riot

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/7k9mpd/roger-stone-used-the-oath-keepers-as-security-on-the-eve-of-the-capitol-riot
 

Video surfaces showing Trump ally Roger Stone flanked by Oath Keepers on morning of Jan. 6

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/US/video-surfaces-showing-trump-ally-roger-stone-flanked/story%3fid=75706765
 

U.S. alleges wider Oath Keepers conspiracy, adds more defendants in Jan. 6 Capitol riot
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/oathkeepers-charged-capitol-riot/2021/02/19/ac41f692-72ce-11eb-b8a9-b9467510f0fe_story.html%3foutputType=amp

 

Oath Keepers leader waited for Trump's direction before Capitol attack: U.S. Justice Department

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/beta.ctvnews.ca/national/world/2021/2/11/1_5305994.html

 

'He Wants Us To Make It WILD': Feds Lay Out How Trump Rhetoric Fueled Oath Keepers
 

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/oath-keepers-trump-capitol-attack_n_60302260c5b6cc8bbf3b9304?ri18n=true
 

I can do this all day

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

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Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's history of spreading bizarre conspiracy theories, from space lasers to Frazzledrip

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.insider.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-jewish-lasers-space-conspiracy-theories-theory-history-2021-2%3famp
 

And there’s more:

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/article/marjorie-taylor-greene-qanon-wildfires-space-laser-rothschild-execute.html
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2021/01/30/did-rep-marjorie-taylor-greene-blame-a-space-laser-for-wildfires-heres-the-response/amp/
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/globalnews.ca/news/7607501/marjorie-taylor-greene-jewish-space-laser/amp/
 

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She has promoted many other beautiful right wing conspiracy theories:  sandy hook and parkland shootings were fake, 9/11 was an inside job. You know the usual conservative nut job stuff.   You should find out if she’s single and ask her out!  I love playing matchmaker!

 

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Steve King was

A Republican Congressman. 
 

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Obama is chummy with Farrakhan.

Exaggerate much?  He met him once in 2005 at a meeting of the Congressional Black Caucus.

 

8 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The Dems and Liberals run cover for them. 

Liar. pulse night club was all 3 issues 

And when conservatives  basically position themselves as the amti- Muslim party of course muslims are going to vote for their opponent  But things are slowly changing. Here’ in Ontario conservatives have tried to get Muslim votes by stirring up hysteria with false claims about  sex education and same sex rights  Coming soon to am election near you!

 

 

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15 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Haha, you just used WashPo as a source. IE, you're a useful idiot for alt-left propagandists.

So what if Canada designated Proud Boys as a terrorist group? Our PM is probably the worst leader in the history of the world.

Do you even read the articles that you use as cites?

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Current Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, who is Afro-Cuban, says the group has "longstanding regulations prohibiting racist, white supremacist or violent activity,"

Obviously not racist. DUH!

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BUSTED!

I knew that you were gonna quote moronic sites, then you went and cited articles on Daily Beast, Vice...

Dude, yuor first 3 links are to Daily Beast, Vice and WashPo. That's worse than QAnon.

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LOL, you're on a roll dude. I never realized how many different versions of QAnon the left had til I read your post.

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I can do this all day

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's history of spreading bizarre conspiracy theories, from space lasers to Frazzledriphttps://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.insider.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-jewish-lasers-space-conspiracy-theories-theory-history-2021-2%3famp

Maybe the GOP has their own AOC. I suddenly wanna see them debate, just for shits and giggles.

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Exaggerate much?  He met him once in 2005 at a meeting of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Liar. You have no knowledge of that.

All we know for sure is that is Obama is very friendly with him, as evidenced by his happy countenance in that photo, and that he likes to keep his relationship with Farrakhan secret.

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Liar. pulse night club was all 3 issues 

Liar. The Pulse shooting had absolutely nothing to do with gun control laws because AK-47s were illegal before Mateen was born.

You'd have to be a complete idiot not to understand that after all this time. Did I really just break it to you now ffs?

Liar. The Pulse shooting had absolutely nothing to do with "Republican hate" because Mateen praised his muslim god, not 'Murica or the Grand Ol' Party.

You'd have to be a complete idiot not to understand that after all this time. Did I really just break it to you now ffs?

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And when conservatives  basically position themselves as the amti- Muslim party  

The anti-terrorism party. For some weird reason conservatives aren't afraid to tell the truth about islamic terrorism and alt-leftists make grand, racist claims that "white men" are the greatest racist threat in America with literally zero evidence.

Did you notice the lack of terrorist attacks against the US when Trump was POTUS? 

 

 

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17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Haha, you just used WashPo as a source. IE, you're a useful idiot for alt-left propagandists.

So what if Canada designated Proud Boys as a terrorist group? Our PM is probably the worst leader in the history of the world.

Do you even read the articles that you use as cites?

Proud Boys sacked the Capitol with the goal of executing the VP, members of Congress and overturning the presidential election  and you defend them. You’re a Terrorist sympathizer. 
 

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Obviously not racist. DUH!

You don’t have to be white to be racist. He’s also a convicted criminal and an ex-con. Not surprising you admire him. 
 

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

BUSTED!

I knew that you were gonna quote moronic sites, then you went and cited articles on Daily Beast, Vice...

Dude, yuor first 3 links are to Daily Beast, Vice and WashPo. That's worse than QAnon.

Ad hominem attacks against sources that report inconvenient facts and playing the old “media conspiracy” card is not a rebuttal.  Do you even know what you’re denying?  Is it that the oath keepers have been indicted or that they provided security to Stone?  Because they’re both easy to prove and matters of public record.  There’s video of it here:  https://abcnews.go.com/US/video-surfaces-showing-trump-ally-roger-stone-flanked/story?id=75706765

 

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17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Liar. You have no knowledge of that.

All we know for sure is that is Obama is very friendly with him, as evidenced by his happy countenance in that photo, and that he likes to keep his relationship with Farrakhan secret.

YOU’RE THE LIAR and you have no knowledge of anything on the topic so stop pretending you do. That photo is from that one and only time on record they met, in 2005. Those are the only known facts. Anything else you claim is an invention made up by you or some other Republican liar.

 

Do you really believe smiling in a photo is  “proof “ that they  have a secret decades long  relationship with the people in the picture 

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17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Liar. The Pulse shooting had absolutely nothing to do with gun control laws because AK-47s were illegal before Mateen was born.

You'd have to be a complete idiot not to understand that after all this time. Did I really just break it to you now ffs?

Liar. The Pulse shooting had absolutely nothing to do with "Republican hate" because Mateen praised his muslim god, not 'Murica or the Grand Ol' Party.

You'd have to be a complete idiot not to understand that after all this time. Did I really just break it to you now ffs?

Hey dumbass Mateen used the following perfectly legal weapons not the AK  And anyway AK-47s were not illegal in Florida at the time

And literally every shooting is a gun control issue. And he targeted gays deliberately which also makes it a hate crime issue. 

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The anti-terrorism party. For some weird reason conservatives aren't afraid to tell the truth about islamic terrorism and alt-leftists make grand, racist claims that "white men" are the greatest racist threat in America with literally zero evidence.

Did you notice the lack of terrorist attacks against the US when Trump was POTUS? 

No you’re the anti-Muslim party. And of course the right wing terrorist attacks on the Capitol, the Pittsburgh synagogue and the Trump supporter who sent those mail bombs. Right wing extremists aka “Very fine people” have emboldened by Trump from day 1.   In fact Wikipedia lists 22 terrorist attacks or attempted attacks since Trump took office. 

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