bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, eyeball said: And Trump's last chance to finally do something Presidential and decent during his utterly worthless existence was to come to Li Wenliang's defence and potentially the world's. Trump should have said "Wait a minute what did that guy say" - "where's that report about something potentially cataclysmic again"? Nonsense.....Trump is not your president or leader of the world. If you need a hug....call your queen. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Nonsense.....Trump is not your president or leader of the world. He could have been a world leader as far as COVID and China went if he'd been a lot smarter. A whoooooole lot smarter though. Now he'll probably cock up the best chance the world's ever had to finally unite behind an effort to make China's government accountable and maybe even clean up it's act. You want to know what's probably going to come next though? China will move into the leadership position America is stepping back from to lead the effort to help 3rd world countries now about be hit by Jinping's virus. Estimates are that 1 billion humans will be infected by year's end with 3.2 million dead. By then Jinping will probably have half the world calling it Trump's disease and questioning if it originated in a US army lab after all. And at this point it might as well have. Quote International Rescue Committee: World risks up to 1 billion cases and 3.2 million deaths from COVID-19 across fragile countries Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: He could have been a world leader as far as COVID and China went if he'd been a lot smarter. A whoooooole lot smarter though. Now he'll probably cock up the best chance the world's ever had to finally unite behind an effort to make China's government accountable and maybe even clean up it's act. How pathetic...you are depending on Trump in another country to "unite" the world against China. Quote You want to know what's probably going to come next though? China will move into the leadership position America is stepping back from to lead the effort to help 3rd world countries now about be hit by Jinping's virus. So ? Nothing Canada can do about it....ever. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: How pathetic...you are depending on Trump in another country to "unite" the world against China. That's just the smoke you're blowing up your own ass coming out your silly mouth. Quote So ? Nothing Canada can do about it....ever. Nor any past President apparently - as you always like to remind. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 4 hours ago, eyeball said: No I said it was mostly because Canada doesn't have anywhere near the number of pig-ignorant yahoos as the US. Sheer nonsense. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 1 minute ago, eyeball said: That's just the smoke you're blowing up your own ass coming out your silly mouth. Nor any past President apparently - as you always like to remind. Maybe you can send Trump a letter...beg him to fight the big bad Chinese for you. Send him some fish. COVID-19 doesn't care. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Sheer nonsense. Yep, that's all pigheaded yahoos are good for. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yep, that's all pigheaded yahoos are good for. Is that you, Joe Biden? Quote
eyeball Posted April 29, 2020 Report Posted April 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Maybe you can send Trump a letter...beg him to fight the big bad Chinese for you. Send him some fish. He's more likely to get the shit off the heel of my boot. Quote COVID-19 doesn't care. Truest thing you've said in nearly 56000 posts. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Independent1986 Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Yep, that's all pigheaded yahoos are good for. When you see these kind of statements about a group of people why are you surprised of the reaction (Trump's election, far right rising) ? When you talk down to people from a moral high ground you think they will invite you over for tea to exchange ideas ? No, people become radicalized because of people like you. Start looking at yourself first before you lecture other people, you are no better than those "pigheaded yahoos". As a matter of fact you need each other to still be relevant. Edited April 30, 2020 by Independent1986 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Independent1986 said: When you see these kind of statements about a group of people why are you surprised of the reaction (Trump's election, far right rising) ? When you talk down to people from a moral high ground you think they will invite you over for tea to exchange ideas ? No, people become radicalized because of people like you. Start looking at yourself first before you lecture other people, you are no better than those "pigheaded yahoos". As a matter of fact you need each other to still be relevant. Piss off. I've only been talking back down to reactionaries with gusto for about 8 years or so. After 15 years of putting up with it from them? Piss off. Edited April 30, 2020 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Independent1986 Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 16 minutes ago, eyeball said: Piss off. I've only been talking back down to reactionaries with gusto for about 8 years or so. After 15 years of putting up with it from them? Piss off. That's like the chicken or the egg question. You ask someone on the other side they will tell you the same thing. I think if we talk to each other rather than about each other you have a better chance for understanding. Quote
eyeball Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 14 minutes ago, Independent1986 said: That's like the chicken or the egg question. You ask someone on the other side they will tell you the same thing. I think if we talk to each other rather than about each other you have a better chance for understanding. Maybe moderate yahoos need to follow the advice they give moderate muslims - have a word with your unreasonable yahoos . Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
cougar Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 Is there a limit to the number of pages a thread can have? We are on page 62 already and I have a feeling this new normal may last for years. If they open up the economy as they say they would, the water in the kettle will start boiling again pretty quickly. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 No surprise here...just very late in the game. Arguing over droplets vs. aerosols is fodder for medical journals, not public health policy during a global pandemic (i.e. wearing masks). Quote Airborne Coronavirus Detected in Wuhan Hospitals ...Marr and many other scientists say evidence is mounting that the coronavirus is being spread by tiny droplets known as aerosols. The World Health Organization has so far downplayed the possibility, saying that the disease is mostly transmitted through larger droplets that do not remain airborne for long, or through the touching of contaminated surfaces. https://www.yahoo.com/news/airborne-coronavirus-detected-wuhan-hospitals-121525370.html Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Zeitgeist Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 41 minutes ago, cougar said: Is there a limit to the number of pages a thread can have? We are on page 62 already and I have a feeling this new normal may last for years. If they open up the economy as they say they would, the water in the kettle will start boiling again pretty quickly. Reopening is starting. It’s all in the how. It’s still unclear who has it right. We know that opening up such that the health system is overwhelmed isn’t an option. After that, it’s about how much death are we willing to accept in the name of protecting the economy? What are we willing to accept? What does success look like in the short, medium, or long term? What is the best path that we can realistically take? Edited April 30, 2020 by Zeitgeist Quote
marcus Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 On 4/28/2020 at 7:37 PM, WestCanMan said: I clicked your link, interestingly enough the option to click on "video" wasn't there, even when I refreshed, and again when I did a new search. If you replace SNC with Duffygate the video option comes back. Not sure what you're talking about. Here is the google video search for SNC on CBC. SNC was all over CBC. Their coverage pounded the Liberals. Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
OftenWrong Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 4 hours ago, Zeitgeist said: it’s about how much death are we willing to accept Answer: None. Whoever saves one life saves the whole world. Whoever destroys one life destroys the whole world. Quote
Independent1986 Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, eyeball said: Maybe moderate yahoos need to follow the advice they give moderate muslims - have a word with your unreasonable yahoos . The percentage of so called "yahoos" in any group in North America is marginal, just because some media, your Marxists friends and some Trump's cult members that drink Lysol say otherwise does not make it true. You look around America and Canada in this coronavirus crisis you see people helping people, individual helping individual which is bad news for the above groups, time to have a few meetings and make a plan, what if people learn that this division is mostly propaganda ? One of the best stories I heard about a new immigrant mother, she was in isolation and her food was running out but she did not want to tell her neighbours to not "bother them". It is an immigrant mentality, my parents have it too. When nobody came with food for 2-3 days, the neighbours called her and they were shocked that she did not ask. You know what the neighbours did ? they rushed out and bought her lots of food. This is who the majority of people are. Edited April 30, 2020 by Independent1986 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: Answer: None. Whoever saves one life saves the whole world. Whoever destroys one life destroys the whole world. It’s hard to tell, over time, what approach will minimize the loss of life. Does staying closed for possibly the next year or more until a vaccine is developed save the most lives? How long can businesses and governments maintain that? Does that save or destroy more lives? Does does that play out over the long run? Edited April 30, 2020 by Zeitgeist Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 5 hours ago, marcus said: Not sure what you're talking about. Here is the google video search for SNC on CBC. SNC was all over CBC. Their coverage pounded the Liberals. Can you find video on CBC where they talk about Michel Fournier and SNC’s history of bribing Canadian politicians, while they were talking about Trudeau’s SNC scandal? It’s pretty relevant, there should be some but I couldn’t find it. Ive seen SNC describes a company that did bad things abroad. Their criminal activity within the country was never mentioned on any news coverage that I saw. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
New World Disorder Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Can you find video on CBC where they talk about Michel Fournier and SNC’s history of bribing Canadian politicians, while they were talking about Trudeau’s SNC scandal? It’s pretty relevant, there should be some but I couldn’t find it. Ive seen SNC describes a company that did bad things abroad. Their criminal activity within the country was never mentioned on any news coverage that I saw. If you play the ostrich game then yes, you would not have heard of it. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/fournier-charged-snc-lavalin-1.3657923 Ok so the video should be easy to find since I was able to find this in a quick search. It does not match exactly what you are looking for, but it should do for now. Quote The former head of Canada's Federal Bridge Corporation (FBC) and his wife have been charged with a string of corruption offences tied to allegations of kickbacks and a $127 million contract awarded to the engineering firm SNC-Lavalin to refurbish Montreal's Jacques Cartier Bridge. The RCMP yesterday raided the Victoria home of Michel Fournier and his wife Judith Barkley-Fournier. SNC-Lavalin bridge contract linked to $1.5M in suspected kickbacks It's the result of the Mounties' investigation into millions of dollars in payments to a Swiss bank account Fournier opened in 2000 under the code name "Zorro," just 20 days after awarding the contract to SNC-Lavalin. Quote
WestCanMan Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, New World Disorder said: If you play the ostrich game then yes, you would not have heard of it. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/fournier-charged-snc-lavalin-1.3657923 Ok so the video should be easy to find since I was able to find this in a quick search. It does not match exactly what you are looking for, but it should do for now. Who's playing "The ostrich game"? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 @New Wold Order: I asked: "Can you find video on CBC where they talk about Michel Fournier and SNC’s history of bribing Canadian politicians, while they were talking about Trudeau’s SNC scandal? It’s pretty relevant, there should be some but I couldn’t find it." You posted two links from way before Trudeau's scandal, neither of them containing video. This was the 2nd one, it didn't show up in my reply, above. This is not a video,and it didn't happen during coverage of Trudeau's scandal: SNC-Lavalin bridge contract linked to $1.5M in suspected kickbacks Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
New World Disorder Posted April 30, 2020 Report Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, WestCanMan said: Who's playing "The ostrich game"? You made this claim. 47 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Can you find video on CBC where they talk about Michel Fournier and SNC’s history of bribing Canadian politicians, while they were talking about Trudeau’s SNC scandal? It’s pretty relevant, there should be some but I couldn’t find it. Could not find the video, but there are plenty of articles. 47 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Ive seen SNC describes a company that did bad things abroad. Their criminal activity within the country was never mentioned on any news coverage that I saw. False. Your other claim in this thread was On 4/28/2020 at 11:00 PM, WestCanMan said: @ Marcus in the whole time that SNC was a luke-warm topic, did you ever hear about Michel Fournier from anyone else but me? CBC wrote about this in 2016, but didn't talk about SNC's dirty past on TV when SNC hit the news again in 2019. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/fournier-charged-snc-lavalin-1.3657923 Actually lots of history regarding SNC's corrupt past was reported in many Canadian news sources On 4/28/2020 at 11:00 PM, WestCanMan said: Just google Michel Fournier Bribe SNC, you can even add CBC at the end, other random stations come up. CBC didn't touch the topic on CBC News." If a GOP member had received a bribe from the WHO do you think we'd hear about it? From a Ukrainian gov't official? Russian Gov't? Interesting that I used a CBC article to prove this as incorrect. On 4/28/2020 at 11:00 PM, WestCanMan said: In short, the company that Trudeau created the DPA law for, the company that Trudeau coerced the AG to protect with his shiny new DPA law, has a court-documented history of bribing another Liberal politician with $2.3M for aid in winning a bridge contract. That bridge contract was only worth $127M. Trudeau had promised Canadians $150 BILLION worth of infrastructure spending, and SNC wasn't going to be allowed to bid on any of the contracts handed out for that work unless they were protected by the DPA law. If SNC gave $2.3M for help winning a $127M bridge contract, how much might they have given Trudeau to help get them access to bid on $150B worth contracts? SNC was a massive scandal compared to Duffygate. CBC lambasted Harper nightly over duffygate on the nightly news. CBC treated SNC like no big D. Trudeau tried as best he could to keep SNC from going to court. With that corruption in SNC, how confident are you in using that bridge? Quote
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