Liberals encouraging white supremacists

[Michael Hardner]

How about a cite go 20 killed by terrorism?

 

The mosque killing should be enough for the other cite.

[dialamah]

40 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Muslims did a car attack against uniformed soldiers in Mtl, the attack at the Parliament and the Dan Cirillo, and two attacks in Toronto which combined to kill approximately 20 people. 

I did not find anything about two deadly attacks in Toronto, only found the ones on Parliament Hill.  Can you provide a link?

[dialamah]

Courts are taking Right-wing extremism seriously, even if many conservatives don't.

[Army Guy]

36 minutes ago, dialamah said:

I did not find anything about two deadly attacks in Toronto, only found the ones on Parliament Hill.  Can you provide a link?

You didn't look very hard did you....try google  "terrorist attacks in Toronto" , whew I'm exhausted...got to lay down for awhile...

hthttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-toronto-van-attack-what-we-know-so-far/

https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/toronto-shooting-terrorism-isis-terror/

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=928013

 

Edited August 14, 2019 by Army Guy

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

Every news story about a white person verbally or physically attacking a Muslim, Jew, South Asian, brown or black person.  

 

Unfortunately, Muslims screaming and physically attacking Canadians rarely makes the news.  The one that attacked me and left me with a big scar - didn't make the news.  What makes the news now is Muslims as victims - rarely the perpetrators.  When Muslim violence and harassment is reported - it's ignored and poo-poo'ed and excused.

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In terms of deadliness, since 2014, 19 people have died as a result of right-wing terror attacks in Canada.   (Link)  in the same period, two people have died as a result of Islamic terror attacks.  (Link)

 

It's not just the deaths either - the young woman who was run down in Edmonton is permanently disabled.  She was a single mother.  But, irrelevant to you, as you stated.  I was in downtown Edmonton for the other attack, only a block away and got caught up in the dragnet.  That was pretty relevant for me.

Also, Canadians have been killed abroad in world-wide Islamic terrorism.  Again - irrelevant to you.

I guess it's only relevant if it affects you personally?

[Army Guy]

3 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Courts are taking Right-wing extremism seriously, even if many conservatives don't.

Courts should be taking ALL extremism seriously, be it right wing, left wing, or crazy terrorism.. This whole topic  should not be about color, race , or creed....extremism of any sort should all be hunted down and exterminated...our nations security apparatus should be doing a lot more to ensure we are all safe from wing nuts, terrorist,   

[dialamah]

3 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

You didn't look very hard did you....try google  "terrorist attacks in Toronto" , whew I'm exhausted...got to lay down for awhile...

  hthttps://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-toronto-van-attack-what-we-know-so-far/

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-toronto-van-attack-what-we-know-so-far/

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=928013

 

Right wing terror according to the link I already posted.  This is because it was essentially based on misogyny, which is part of alt-right lore, though it varies between groups.

 

[Army Guy]

So now if your not getting laid you belong to the right ,maybe one day you can give us a source to all this right wing lore,   man it must be tough being a liberal getting laid, being so perfect, I hope your not modeled after Justin are you, ....

https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/toronto-shooting-terrorism-isis-terror/

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=928013

 

 

[taxme]

19 hours ago, Argus said:

Hey, whatever it takes to win an election! Whether that's spending billions of borrowed dollars on unneeded programs, or spending billions more to bring in elderly immigrants, or... encouraging white supremacists. If it works it's all good to a Liberal.

We've heard so much about white supremacists from the Liberals and Liberal friendly media in the last months, especially the CBC. It's not accidental. They're trying to scare people about this tiny number of people while at the same to implying, inferring, or just plain stating that the Conservatives are somehow or other in league with them, or at least sympathetic to them.

And yet, who do you think is happiest about the disgusting claims being made by the Liberals?

White supremacists.

The Liberals are providing a massive propaganda boost to white supremacist groups, by giving them far more attention and far more power in public discussion. The whole “secret support” theory is getting a huge boost by the Liberals.

This shows the danger of the increasingly desperate and unhinged rhetoric being used by Liberal politicians against Conservative Canadians.

In an attempt to gain some short term political benefit and hold onto power, the Trudeau Liberals are tearing Canada apart, providing a propaganda boost to racist groups, and undermining the unity of our nation.

https://www.thepostmillennial.com/why-are-the-trudeau-liberals-signal-boosting-white-supremacists/

The fake and lying Democrats in America and their leftist democratic pro media are doing the same thing to Trump and trying to make all of Trump's supporters to appear to be a bunch of white supremacist racists. Accuse Trump of being a racist in order to try and turn the voter away from him and make points with the voters, especially the blacks and Latinos and other people of color. The bought off leftist liberal lying media in Canada are doing the same thing. I am surprised that the MSM have not done that here in Canada yet? Try and make Scheer look like he and his supporters are a bunch of racists. Maybe in another couple of months the MSM will try to make this an issue of racism for Scheer. Personally, I am getting fed up with the word racist always being used especially against white conservatives. The real racists are the MSM and the liberals. They hate everybody as far as I am concerned. Even themselves. 

[Shady]

Not to mention honour killings.

[taxme]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

The real problem for Conservatives is that the supremacists are sympathetic and attracted to them.  That's not scary its hilarious.  

What? Do you think that the supremacists are going to support and vote for the leftist liberals instead? The ones who hate their guts? Supporting Scheer is not admitting that they like Scheer or that Scheer is pro white supremacy. Those so called white nationalists will vote for the least of the meany dictators that Canada seems to offer up all the time, and Scheer appears to be less dictatorial than comrade Trudeau. It's the MSM old Canadian tricks once again being played on the Canadian people who will try their hardest to make the word racist stick to the conservative clothing and try to make them look like a bunch of racist haters. Sadly, there are so many who will believe their lies. Most Canadians can be quite gullible at times. If the MSM Canadian media says that it must be so then it is so. Most Canadians scare the hell out of me. Cry them a river and they will believe it whether it is true or false. But hey. 

[Argus]

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

They're already here, even if they don't recognize themselves. 

We've been over this before. You haven't been able to name a single active white supremacist group or show where they've done ANYTHING, not even demonstrated. All you can point to is a few facebook clubs that spout crap over the internet.

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

And their ranks are growing,

There's no evidence of this. Ranks of what? Where are they? Why aren't they marching down the street throwing their right arms into the air? Every time there's an even mildly conservative demonstration, be it against abortion, immigration or Islam the counter protesting leftists outnumber the few dozen demonstrators by three or four to one.

[Argus]

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

"Any number" = Six.

The Toronto Hammer and Sickle cannot be relied on for news about Islamic terrorist attacks. Their list is incomplete, and it largely ignores attempts police thwarted, as well as other attacks which I guess it finds inconvenient. For example, that Somali guy who stabbed three soldiers who the parole board keeps trying to release isn't on their list.

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

Every news story about a white person verbally or physically attacking a Muslim, Jew, South Asian, brown or black person. 

Oh I see. Okay. I'll accept that if you accept that every violent or even verbal assault by a visible minority on a white person or Jew is racist anti-white violence. Deal?

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

White Supremacy gone mainstream, thanks to constant barrage of BS from alt-right sources, making people feel justified in harassing people who "look" different.  

Mainstream? Who in the mainstream is a white supremacist? Your paranoid ravings don't count as evidence.

2 hours ago, dialamah said:

In terms of deadliness, since 2014, 19 people have died as a result of right-wing terror attacks in Canada.   (Link)  in the same period, two people have died as a result of Islamic terror attacks.  (Link)

Your own link only has one attack by that loon in Quebec on the mosque. And if Muslim terrorists have killed fewer than him it's not for want of trying.

[dialamah]

12 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's not just the deaths either - the young woman who was run down in Edmonton is permanently disabled.  She was a single mother.  But, irrelevant to you, as you stated.

There you go, blackening my character by claiming, for me things I haven't said and don't feel.  Shall I respond in kind and accuse you of not caring for the surviving victims of the Mosque attack or the van attack, or the victims of Justin Borque of Moncton in 2014?  Three RCMP dead, two more seriously injured.  Or would you consider that unfair?  Because as I posted earlier, I believe everyone here agrees that killing innocents for political reasons is wrong.  

I am affected personally whenever some person attacks another and it is featured on the news.  Doesn't matter if the perpetrator is Muslim or "Old Stock" Canadian, or if the victims are Muslim are "Old Stock" Canadians.  

51 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Also, Canadians have been killed abroad in world-wide Islamic terrorism.  Again - irrelevant to you.

Muslims have been killed in world wide terror attacks in the 10s or even 100s of thousands.  Is that irrelevant to you?   How about the 100s of thousands more killed by Western military attacks as part of "acceptable collateral damage".  Are those deaths irrelevant to you?

I'm not sorry that considering innocent people killed anywhere in the world are as worthy of compassion as Canadians killed anywhere in the world offends you.  I am not sorry that I condemn all violence, for any reason and by any person, offends you.  Right or wrong, my opinion is that caring about everyone, not just our own "tribe" would make the world a better place.

 

[Goddess]

9 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Is that irrelevant to you?   Are those deaths irrelevant to you?

I wasn't the one who said any deaths are irrelevant to me.  You were.

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I'm not sorry that considering innocent people killed anywhere in the world are as worthy of compassion as Canadians killed anywhere in the world offends you. 

Again, see above.  I was offended that you deemed Islamic terrorism deaths in Canada irrelevant to yourself.  My answer was in response to your statement, so it's weird that you're accusing me of not caring when you were the one who said they were Irrelevant.

I agree with your statement above.  I was disagreeing with your statement that Islamic terrorism is irrelevant in Canada. You're so  determined to paint me as an Islamophobe that your hatred is blinding you to what is being said.

Edited August 14, 2019 by Goddess

[taxme]

7 hours ago, scribblet said:

Certainly agree with the OP.    The alleged Scheer supporter hurling racist comments was arrested and Scheer immediately condemned her because had he not said anything right away, he would have been portrayed as supporting racism etc.   Now that she is being assessed for a mental illness, they want Scheer to apologize - this is just liberal craziness. 

So, why does the leftist liberal media always go bonkers and want to report on some racist incident that happens all the time? It seems that it is only the one big time news story that the MSM here in Canada want to report on. It would appear as though the media cannot wait for the next racist incident to happen and report on it. Hardly a day goes by on TV where the MSM is reporting on some what appears to be a hate or racist incident. Maybe one day just looking at some one in a racist and hatred looking way will get one charged with an incident of hatred or racism. Hey, that person looked at me like he hated my color of skin and I want that person charged with a hate or racist crime. Where have the days gone when one can express their opinions, and in some cases, someone who appears to wish to be rude or ignorant without the fear of the MSM of big brother government coming after them? I hate many people of all colors. Does that now mean that just for saying that, I am now to be considered a hater and maybe even a racist for saying this? This is all just liberalism at it's worse. Always trying to make a mountain out of a termite hill. In Canada today with the MSM is that racism or hate must be front and center and become a front page news story all the time. Why is that? 

[dialamah]

18 minutes ago, Argus said:

We've been over this before. You haven't been able to name a single active white supremacist group or show where they've done ANYTHING, not even demonstrated. All you can point to is a few facebook clubs that spout crap over the internet.

Canadian White Supremacist groups added to terror list.

Islamic terror groups recruit through the same social media means as do White Supremacists.  Either this is important or it isn't; it can't matter for Islamic extremists and also be irrelevant for right-wing extremists. 

I'm not interested enough in these groups to go searching through Facebook, 4chan, 8chan or other sites to prove what CSIS, the RCMP and the FBI tell us:  far-right extremism, including White Supremacy, is a growing problem in Canada, the States and Europe.  As per the conservative way, you can deny any wrongdoing if your "tribe" but that doesn't make the problem.go away.

[Goddess]

4 hours ago, Argus said:

And need I mention again nobody even mentioned Muslims until you brought the topic up?

LOL  She does that all the time.  Gotta get her "Rah! Rah! Islam is the greatest!" in there early, doncha know.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

I did not find anything about two deadly attacks in Toronto, only found the ones on Parliament Hill.  Can you provide a link?

That just illustrates your total ignorance regarding the topic at hand. The two attacks I’m referencing are recent and well-known. It’s not every day that we have a terrorist attack that kills more than 2 people.

Where are your links to all the white supremacy terrorist attacks?

Do I have to provide a link when I say things like 9/11 attack or PM Trudeau?

Google “Toronto van attack” or “Danforth shooting”. Don’t play dumb. 

[taxme]

6 hours ago, dialamah said:

Islamic terrorism is pretty irrelevant in Canada, yet conservative media (and posters here) make a big deal of any misdeed by any Muslim anywhere in the world, and prophesy dire consequences to Canada.  

While I agree that white supremacist attacks in Canada are rare, they happen more often than Islamic attacks.  And while nobody thinks all conservatives are racist, or even most conservatives, racist and white supremacist rhetoric and concepts are entering our media and culture through conservatives.  

And yet again here in this thread and the opening post, we see conservatives blaming "somebody else" for attitudes and behavior they support and encourage in every anti-immigrant and every anti-Muslim post they make. 

At the risk of being too reasonable, I would say that finger pointing is a major problem that prevents solutions.  Simplistically blaming either conservatives or liberals is stupid.  Conservatives are no more supportive of extremist behavior from White Supremacists than Liberals are supportive of extremist behavior from Islamists.  We're all on the same page with respect to murdering innocent people to make a political statement.  

 

 

But it is the MSM and the leftist liberals who appear to be only interested in reporting on what some white person says or does. There is no conservative media in Canada that can report on these, maybe, racist and hate crime incidents in Canada. I saw the incident on TV but I did not get to hear all that she had said. I thought I heard her say to someone to go back to where they came from. I have heard on TV many times where people have told white people to go back from where they came from. Anyway, what she did was use some words that someone did not want her to be allowed to say. Censorship in action. She did not physically attack that person. Again, this appears to be a non-racist incident to me. This is just another attack on some white person's right to say what they want to say. As the old saying goes: "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me". There was o physical violence committed, and so there should be no story. My opinion. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, dialamah said:

I did not find anything about two deadly attacks in Toronto, only found the ones on Parliament Hill.  Can you provide a link?

So, are you a liar or do you have links to the 5 terrorist attacks?

[dialamah]

44 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I was offended that you deemed Islamic terrorism deaths in Canada irrelevant to

But not offended by Scribblet's remark, to which I was responding, that attacks by White Supremacists are irrelevant.  Why not?  Why is the higher death toll of White Supremacist attack in Canada irrelevant, but not Islamic terror attacks?

44 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You're so  determined to paint me as an Islamophobe that your hatred is blinding you to what is being said.

It's you who failed to understand the context of my remarks.  

30 minutes ago, Goddess said:

LOL  She does that all the time.  Gotta get her "Rah! Rah! Islam is the greatest!" in there early, doncha know.

If y'all weren't such hypocrites, we could have a discussion about extremism

But instead you bunch scream bloody murder about "Muslims" at every opportunity, but if a white guy kills a few dozen brown folk as a direct result of your right-wing, anti-immigrant rhetoric and your all "Nothing to do with us - it's the liberals".  

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, dialamah said:

 

But instead you bunch scream bloody murder about "Muslims" at every opportunity,

And yet it was YOU who brought them up - again.

Anyways this thread is about white supremacists  - not about your favourite religion.

[dialamah]

24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That just illustrates your total ignorance regarding the topic at hand. The two attacks I’m referencing are recent and well-known. It’s not every day that we have a terrorist attack that kills more than 2 people.

Where are your links to all the white supremacy terrorist attacks?

Do I have to provide a link when I say things like 9/11 attack or PM Trudeau?

Google “Toronto van attack” or “Danforth shooting”. Don’t play dumb. 

Toronto van attack was not an Islamic terror attack: it was some incel and, per the link I supplied previously, considered a right-wing attack.  

There was a vehicle attack in Edmonton, in which nobody died  that was considered Islamic terror; perhaps that is the one you are thinking of.  Also covered in my links.

Danforth shooting was not considered a terror attack by authorities, only by conservatives who prefer conspiracy over facts.  Not included in my links as either alt-right or Islamic.

 

[dialamah]

4 minutes ago, Goddess said:

And yet it was YOU who brought them up - again.

Anyways this thread is about white supremacists  - not about your favourite religion.

Where is this thread about White Supremacists?  Looks to me like it's about blaming liberals for alt-right violence resulting from anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim rhetoric engaged in by conservatives.