The road to 2020

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

And now the rest of the quote:

Hang on Chris. The court cases are waiting to be heard. 

I said "gingerly".  Sheesh!

[OftenWrong]

7 hours ago, bcsapper said:

In Maricopa county, where Joe Biden’s lead over Donald Trump has been shrinking as election officials have continued to count ballots, a large group of rightwing, pro-Trump protesters has crowded outside a major elections center.

He's catching up there, you dicks.  He doesn't need you to show up with your guns.

The protesters, who are clamoring for a Trump win, are actually slowing down election workers as they count ballots that seem to be favoring the president.

It is to laugh.  It really is.

Dude, you're just getting way too excited about this crap.

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I see, so 'Nothing to see here, move along,' is that the official response from Joe.

He'd best clear his throat. There's a few more coming for him to deny:

 

More pizzagate fake allegation bullshit, which has become the bread and butter of the Republican Party these past 5 years. 
 

All of these fake vote fraud claims and baseless lawsuits aren’t really an effort to win a Trump presidency, their real goal is to permanently destroy the credibility of US democracy, for the short-term goal of sabotaging the inevitable Biden presidency

Hillary Clinton would have probably been less than a footnote in US history but now thanks to Republican’s destruction of democracy she’ll be forever remembered in the history books as the last presidential candidate to peacefully concede defeat. 

[-TSS-]

Apparently many traditional Republican strongholds also voted for Biden while in the Congressional vote they remained strongly Republican, which kind of suggests that even many Republicans wanted Trump out.

[OftenWrong]

20 minutes ago, -TSS- said:

Apparently many traditional Republican strongholds also voted for Biden while in the Congressional vote they remained strongly Republican, which kind of suggests that even many Republicans wanted Trump out.

Wanting Trump out is fine, wanting to replace him with Joe Biden is another matter.

"All politics is relative."
- Albert OftenWrong

[Boges]

Writing is on the wall. 

Biden should get 270 today, even if Trump comes back in Arizona, it looks like Nevada, Georgia and Pennsylvania go to Biden. 

People who think the margins for Biden in these mail-in ballots seem too convenient clearly weren't checking with the percentages of Mail-In votes received. 

In fact, the reason Trump is holding his own in Arizona is that the Mail-In votes were actually rather evenly split there. 

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/AZ.html

This is not the case in Nevada and Pennsylvania. Georgia didn't decipher between Dem and Republican votes but you can imagine that people in the ATL aren't voting for Trump en masse. 

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/NV.html

I wouldn't hold my breath with North Carolina either. The Mail-In Vote breakdown was huge there there. 

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/NC.html

Not sure why they're dragging their heels. 

Edited November 6, 2020 by Boges

[OftenWrong]

5 minutes ago, Boges said:

Writing is on the wall.

Of course. Would have been stunning otherwise. But for say, 1000 votes, they'll be fighting in the courts for a while.

Meanwhile you and Chairman Xi can raise a toast, with your rice wine!

[Boges]

Just now, OftenWrong said:

Of course. Would have been stunning otherwise. But for say, 1000 votes, they'll be fighting in the courts for a while.

Meanwhile you and Chairman Xi can raise a toast, with your rice wine!

Assuming they have compelling evidence of fraud and not Mr. BBQ - Beer - Freedom's fever dreams. 

 

[BeaverFever]

10 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Democrat run states are the problem as I understand it.

Georgia and Arizona have Republican governors. Nevadas Secretary of State, which oversees elections, is Republican

[Boges]

Between calling Arizona for Biden to telling Kayleigh that she's full of shit, you can imagine MAGA nation must not be happy with Faux News. 

https://news.yahoo.com/even-fox-news-hosts-arent-044734761.html

[Boges]

Just now, BeaverFever said:

Georgia and Arizona have Republican governors. Nevadas Secretary of State, which oversees elections, is Republican

Yeah, yeah but Atlanta and Vegas are Dem Shitholes 

[BeaverFever]

10 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

I see, so 'Nothing to see here, move along,' is that the official response from Joe.

He'd best clear his throat. There's a few more coming for him to deny:

 

Just saw a spokesperson for Nevada’s Republican Secretary of State who runs the election, call these allegations “garbage”

 

They said first of all just looking at the list of names and addresses Republicans provided in their complaint  to Barr, many if not most are clearly military base addresses. Military members are eligible to vote in their home state  
 

Secondly the complaint to Barr is the first they’re hearing of of these allegations and Republicans did not raise this with them directly which is the proper process 

The Republican strategy with all these fake complaints is clearly that if they can’t win they will burn the house down 

[OftenWrong]

19 minutes ago, Boges said:

Assuming they have compelling evidence of fraud and not Mr. BBQ - Beer - Freedom's fever dreams. 

 

The courts and lawyers will decide. 1000 votes is nothing, it is like noise. Fraud is not even needed to invalidate a few thousand.

[Boges]

1 minute ago, OftenWrong said:

The courts and lawyers will decide. 1000 votes is nothing, it is like noise. Fraud is not even needed to invalidate a few thousand.

A lot harder to overturn an election when you're behind. 

It may be a few thousand votes in 2 states. 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, -TSS- said:

Apparently many traditional Republican strongholds also voted for Biden while in the Congressional vote they remained strongly Republican, which kind of suggests that even many Republicans wanted Trump out.

Most of those districts are heavily gerrymandered so that only Republicans can win. You could literally run a dead man, a Qanon loonie and a legless Nazi and they'd win. In fact, they did, and they did.

[Argus]

38 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Georgia and Arizona have Republican governors. Nevadas Secretary of State, which oversees elections, is Republican

I think someone already said that... ☺️

Edited November 6, 2020 by Argus

[Guest]

5 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Dude, you're just getting way too excited about this crap.

I just felt someone should step up, check their safety catches, and fill them in on the geography.

Pennsylvania is over there.  Waaay over there. 

You'll need a ride.

Edited November 6, 2020 by bcsapper

[BeaverFever]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If Hannity said it exists, I have no reason to doubt it,

ROTFL That sheep-like cult follower mentality is basically the root problem with everything you say and post. 
 

You righties make up ridiculous baseless accusations with no evidence and then demand evidence to be proven wrong. That’s not how it works genius.
 

Listen Einstein Obama is not president anymore, if he set up death panels to euthanize people around the country during his 8 years in office you should be able to prove pretty easily that it actually happened and not be stupid enough to expect people to provide evidence of something that never happened...never happened. 

Edited November 6, 2020 by BeaverFever

[Argus]

So, this is the kind of think Trump and his idiot son, not to mention his lunatic cult are trying to inspire. I think they won't be happy until there's gunfire in the streets.

Philadelphia police said on Friday they were investigating an alleged plot to attack the city’s Pennsylvania Convention Center, where votes from the hotly contested U.S. presidential election were being counted.

Local police received a tip about a Hummer truck with people armed with firearms driving toward the vote counting venue late on Thursday, a Philadelphia Police spokesman said in an emailed statement.

Police arrested two men and seized their firearms as well as the Hummer truck about which they had received the tip, the spokesman said, adding the probe was being conducted by the police and the FBI.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/us-politics/article-philadelphia-police-probe-alleged-plot-to-attack-vote-counting-venue/

[BeaverFever]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

It's the same principal. Doctors make decisions based on time and whatever other resources they have on hand. Just because you have something that's curable doesn't mean that the guy you're talking to can or will cure you.

Do you think you know for sure when you get a fatal diagnosis here that a former President or a billionaire would die of the same thing? Don't kid yourself.

If you get C19 do you think that you'll have the same chance of surviving as Trump had? Go fish.

You might be better off staying at home anyways though, you have a better chance of being killed by a medical mistake than you do of dying from C19 in the USA, even in 2020. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html

Over 20% of America's deaths are from cancer, unless you're a former President, then it's 2.5%. Just 1 out of 39 so far. There should have been around 8. Granted 4 died of gunshot wounds, so it's more like 1/35. 2.8%.

You have too much faith in the medical profession BF.

No it’s not the same principalad the Rights fictitious Obama death panels at all. Not at all. And if you’re saying we’ve always had death panels then what was Obama doing that was so new and outrageous ???

Its obvious on the United States that rich people have always gotten better treatment than average or poor people but not because of “government death panels” that only exist in conservative fantasies. If you want to argue that private insurers have always had their own internal ‘death panels’ sure I won’t argue that, that’s part of the indictment against the horrible American health system that THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD. But what does that have to do with Obamacare reforms?  Nada. 

[WestCanMan]

18 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

ROTFL That sheep-like cult follower mentality is basically the root problem with everything you say and post. 
 

You righties make up ridiculous baseless accusations with no evidence and then demand evidence to be proven wrong. That’s not how it works genius.
 

Listen Einstein Obama is not president anymore, if he set up death panels to euthanize people around the country during his 8 years in office you should be able to prove pretty easily that it actually happened and not be stupid enough to expect people to provide evidence of something that never happened...never happened. 

Yeah that's not exactly how it works.

When someone has a track record of being right you should at least listen to them.

When they have a track record of being wrong you stop listening to them, completely.

 

You're listening to people who say things like "Trump said immigrants are animals" when anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the language knows is a lie. Or "Antifa doesn't exist". 

Leftist credo: "Just keep quiet and make people guess how stupid we are."

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

No it’s not the same principalad the Rights fictitious Obama death panels at all. Not at all. And if you’re saying we’ve always had death panels then what was Obama doing that was so new and outrageous ???

Its obvious on the United States that rich people have always gotten better treatment than average or poor people but not because of “government death panels” that only exist in conservative fantasies. 

What's the difference then? If you're sick you get the runaround/wait list.

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah that's not exactly how it works.

When someone has a track record of being right you should at least listen to them.

When they have a track record of being wrong you stop listening to them, completely.

 

You're listening to people who say things like "Trump said immigrants are animals" when anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of the language knows is a lie. Or "Antifa doesn't exist". 

Leftist credo: "Just keep quiet and make people guess how stupid we are."

“A track record of being right”.  ROTFL 

The man’s entire job is to lie often and repeatedly like so many of the right wing windbag COMMENTATORS that you people mistake news reporters

 

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

“A track record of being right”.  ROTFL 
The man’s entire job is to lie often and repeatedly like so many of the right wing windbag COMMENTATORS that you people mistake news reporters

Yeah that's a real funny quote, but you're actually just regurgitating CNN drivel when you say it. 

Literally the most ignorant, and I mean true dictionary-definition ignorant thing that you can do is just shut them out because CNN told you to.

They also told you that Michael Brown was a gentle giant, based on what some of his elementary school teachers said, and they completely ignored his two violent incidents right before he was shot, and they also refused to show video of it. That's not just lying and misrepresentation for political purposes, people were killed and there was billions of dollars in property damage that resulted from their intentional mischaracterization of the people & events involved in that incident. The entire country was sharply divided just because CNN portrayed M Brown as a sweet, innocent victim of a genocidal & racist police force. 

 

You should ACTUALLY watch Brett Baier or Tucker Carlson or Hannity or The Five, or Greg Gutfeld, or Watters' World once and see how often you can catch them lying, just for sport. 

[BeaverFever]

36 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah that's a real funny quote, but you're actually just regurgitating CNN drivel when you say it. 

Literally the most ignorant, and I mean true dictionary-definition ignorant thing that you can do is just shut them out because CNN told you to.

They also told you that Michael Brown was a gentle giant, based on what some of his elementary school teachers said, and they completely ignored his two violent incidents right before he was shot, and they also refused to show video of it. That's not just lying and misrepresentation for political purposes, people were killed and there was billions of dollars in property damage that resulted from their intentional mischaracterization of the people & events involved in that incident. The entire country was sharply divided just because CNN portrayed M Brown as a sweet, innocent victim of a genocidal & racist police force. 

 

You should ACTUALLY watch Brett Baier or Tucker Carlson or Hannity or The Five, or Greg Gutfeld, or Watters' World once and see how often you can catch them lying, just for sport. 

I don’t watch CNN or any of the 24-hr cable news channels. But reading through their coverage which is still on their website shows once again your representation  of their coverage is full of shit. 

Edited November 6, 2020 by BeaverFever