Time to take on far-right terrorists

[bush_cheney2004]

No surprise here, and just in time for the federal election lest those "far right" terrorists win the day:

 

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Canada is in talks with the United States to close a loophole that has allowed more than 40,000 asylum seekers to cross the border at unauthorized points of entry, with Ottawa proposing changes that would effectively allow officials to turn away future asylum seekers.

Currently, the Safe Third Country Agreement (STCA) means most asylum seekers are turned away at authorized border crossings, but not at unofficial points of entry. The change Ottawa has proposed would allow Canadian officials to escort asylum seekers who enter at an unauthorized entry point to a designated crossing area, where they would be refused entry into Canada. The change would apply to the entire land border.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-in-talks-with-us-to-close-loophole-in-border-pact-on-asylum/

 

[Rue]

17 minutes ago, Saudi Monitor said:

@DogOnPorch  and many other far-right who's obsessed with Islam, are actually sympathetic to Islam.

No wonder many of them are converting Islam.

ANTI-ISLAM PARTY POLITICIAN RESIGNS, CONVERTS TO ISLAM

 

 https://www.newsweek.com/anti-islam-party-politician-resigns-converts-islam-789238

France’s National Front sacks Muslim convert councillor

https://www.france24.com/en/20141209-france-national-front-sacks-councillor-maxence-buttey-who-converted-islam

Former lawmaker from far-right Dutch party PVV becomes Muslim after writing anti-Islam book

https://www.dailysabah.com/europe/2019/02/04/former-lawmaker-from-far-right-dutch-party-pvv-becomes-muslim-after-writing-anti-islam-book

Far-rights. neo-Nazis, and white nationalist are not having a good time these days it seems. Without a doubt many white nationalists acknowledge Islam to be the truth.

So much of the right wing comprise of people who had enough of the leftist cultural project that pushes feminism, homosexuality, transgenderism, crossdressing, sexual promiscuity, bestiality, collapse of marriages and family institution etc. And anyone who is opposed to this cultural project on society and does not embrace that filth with smiles and rainbow pins as a fascist. People are tired of this garbage.

They know Islam is the antidote for this cancer,  but these white nationalists and far-rights don’t want to admit the truth, so instead of accepting Islam, they have to come up with a silly ironic meme, for this reason, “White Sharia.”

It is time for far-rights and white supremacists to face these simple facts, and hopefully more of you will open your eyes to the truth.

 

 

Your rantings at this point reveal the exact same reasoning process the idiot in NZ used and most extremists use-ridiculous, illogical stereotyping that projects the stereotypers own feelings of self hatred and inadequacy on others in an attempt to rid themselves of their feelings of inadequacy. Your writings show nothing but arrested emotional and intellectual development and stunted and fragmented thoughts that make no sense.  You troll with your comments at this point.

[Rue]

11 hours ago, eyeball said:

You don't have to be to imagine how it feels.

Bullshit.  Imagining how it feels  I woul sugest  simply you projecting your feelings of inadequacy, guilt and perverted thought processes on others.

You of course use a script from  Michael Jackson. Now that makes perfect sense.

Edited March 18, 2019 by Rue

[jacee]

21 hours ago, Army Guy said:

That is not what you said you quoted that the government does not track far right extremists....which is not TRUE, period.....

I said police and security, not government.

You didn't read the link in the OP that I referenced. I won't repost it.

[Saudi Monitor]

Migrate en masse to land, de-populate the entire native Polynesians population who have been living in NZ for at least 700 years.

Then start to complain about foreign legal migrants making up a tiny percentage of the population 

 

[Saudi Monitor]

 

[Saudi Monitor]

RIP to the dead

 

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[Hal 9000]

18 hours ago, Saudi Monitor said:

That's great!  I still think I'd choose freedom though.

[DogOnPorch]

8 hours ago, GostHacked said:

It's not that it does not make sense, it does not line up with your overall rhetoric. That was the issue I stated.

Good for you, you can read a book. I am just not that obsessed with Islam as you are. I am not saying you are a lover of Islam, but you do have some kind of obsession for it.

 

It's called an education.

[GostHacked]

18 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

It's called an education.

But not educated enough to provide a solution.

NZ's plan now is to change their gun laws. Which as we know won't fix the problem.

I am more than willing to work with you to get a plan together. Where do we start?

[jacee]

21 hours ago, Rue said:

Islam isn't  the problem any more than Christianity is the problem because the KKK exists or Judaism is the problem because certain Jews applauded killing Yitzhak Rabin and hate Muslims and this is why I continue to make that point. People who used their religion to justify certain beliefs may be a problem. Islam is not a problem for me until someone uses it in a specific way that promotes violence for example.

Islam, Christianity and Judaism all have violent and deranged extremists who attach themselves to the religion without really being part of the religious community, and co-opt elements of the religion to justify their violent acts. 

Those religious communities consistently deny that their religion supports such violent acts. The fact that such perpetrators seldom attend church, mosque or synagogue and are not part of religious communities tends to validate the communities' position.

Deranged and violent sociopathic criminals sometimes kill their own children, claiming to be 'saving' them from some more horrible fate.

Or they rampage against a family, a bank, an employer etc in some hallucinatory rage of revenge. 

My point: Homicidal rage criminals will always provide some 'justification' for their acts, but it means nothing except that they are deranged and violent  criminals.

So why are some people still arguing how a religion encourages or  'causes' these violent acts? Does a woman 'encourage' or 'cause' a violent husband to kill her and their children after she leaves him? Is it 'her fault'?  Of course not. Is he every bit as likely to be violent after a different woman leaves him? Of course he is.

A religion (or a woman, a bank, etc) is just a convenient target for a violent homicidal criminal to 'blame' for his own deranged emotions and violent acts.

Anyone can pull verses from any religious texts to try to 'blame' a religion and its adherents for 'encouraging' or 'causing' a criminal's violent acts, but those who try to 'blame' another religion usually have a political agenda, not a religious one.

I will always dismiss as self-serving religious arguments used by a homicidal criminal to justify violent criminal actions.

And I will always dismiss as self-serving or state-serving propaganda any arguments that quote religious texts to 'blame' a religion for homicidal criminals' actions. 

The only conversation worth having is how police and security personnel can improve their intervention to identify and prevent homicidal criminals from committing such atrocities.

Breton Tarrant's Christian religion is not to blame for his violence, nor is Islam. 

Edited March 18, 2019 by jacee

[Argus]

14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. I don't think that is clear. 

It's exceedingly clear.

14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. It doesn't matter.  We don't negotiate with terrorists.

Non sequitur

[Argus]

12 hours ago, Saudi Monitor said:

Reading the comments here, it truly shows why liberalism has failed. It is inherently intolerant despite claiming to be a tolerant

This coming from "Saudi Monitor" representing the "religion of peace", and a country which routinely arrests, tortures, and executes anyone who expresses dissent.

12 hours ago, Saudi Monitor said:

It is inherently violent and indeed intolerant of any non-liberal ideology,

No other religions but Islam are permitted in Saudi Arabia. No churches or temples permitted. And anyone attempting to leave Islam is subject to the death penalty for apostasy.

12 hours ago, Saudi Monitor said:

 Older traditions like Islam are neither welcome,

There many mosques in the west, but no churches in Saudi Arabia.

12 hours ago, Saudi Monitor said:

Producing the likes of Trump who is overtly bigoted,

Your crown prince has people murdered at his overseas embassies for daring to criticize him.

12 hours ago, Saudi Monitor said:

after Obama who drone-bombed his way to destabilizing the Muslim world.

Want to talk about how Saudi Arabia is bombing Yemen?

 

[Argus]

[Argus]

[jacee]

21 hours ago, Argus said:

Economics is not the primary motivation behind the rising anti-immigrant sentiment in the West. The primary motivation is cultural, an instinctive sense of discomfort that rises the higher the number of 'other' are within the tribe's territory.  

In my experience, that's not true in Canada.

There is more anti-Muslim xenophobia in conservative rural/small town areas where there are no Muslims and no direct contact with 'the scary other'. Imaginations run wild, fuelled by cut-throat bigot conservative politicians who have no qualms about creating anxiety and fear of 'the scary other' ... to get votes.

[DogOnPorch]

5 minutes ago, jacee said:

In my experience, that's not true in Canada.

There is more anti-Muslim xenophobia in conservative rural/small town areas where there are no Muslims and no direct contact with 'the scary other'. Imaginations run wild, fuelled by cut-throat bigot conservative politicians who have no qualms about creating anxiety and fear of 'the scary other' ... to get votes.

 

You travel a lot to rural Canada, I gather?

[Saudi Monitor]

A MUST READ!

 

New Zealand Suspect’s Actions Are Logical Conclusion of Calling Immigrants “Invaders”

 

 

Tarrant’s words are both lucid and chillingly familiar. His references to immigrants as invaders find echoes in the language used by the president of the United States and far-right leaders across Europe. And that is why it would be a mistake to dismiss them as the incoherent ravings of a madman.

The document is based on a key underlying premise known as the “Great Replacement” theory: that nonwhite people living in Western countries are aliens on a mission to plunder and replace the populations of Europe and North America. In the faces of immigrants trying to raise families and build peaceful homes, Tarrant sees unarmed invaders bent on conquering his racially pristine homeland.

For those wondering where Tarrant was radicalized, the answer is right out in the open. It is in our media and politics, where minorities, Muslims or otherwise, are vilified as a matter of course.

Such rhetoric animates the policies of Donald Trump, who has revived a medieval response to “invaders,” promising to contain them behind a giant wall. It comes from the president’s political supporters who openly espouse the same “Great Replacement” theory that motivated Tarrant’s massacre.

This rhetoric about foreign pollution also emanates from the mouths and pens of supposedly liberal public figures. In 2006, the “New Atheist” writer Sam Harris wrote an article claiming that within 25 years, France was on course to have a majority-Muslim population, even if immigration were to stop tomorrow. This demographic shift would mean nothing less than an end to democracy itself, he argued.

In short, Tarrant’s writings reflect a worldview that is not just confined to the dark corners of the internet, but is openly expressed in media and politics

https://theintercept.com/2019/03/18/new-zealand-mosque-shooter-manifesto/

Edited March 18, 2019 by Saudi Monitor

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[Argus]

1 hour ago, jacee said:

In my experience, that's not true in Canada.

There is more anti-Muslim xenophobia in conservative rural/small town areas where there are no Muslims and no direct contact with 'the scary other'. Imaginations run wild, fuelled by cut-throat bigot conservative politicians who have no qualms about creating anxiety and fear of 'the scary other' ... to get votes.

I doubt you spend much time conversing with people in rural/small town areas. And there are no bigoted conservative politicians, or at least, none who make their bigotry known, or else the media would be all over them.

In any event, the fear of others invading people's territory includes the entire country, not just their own county or district. People identify themselves primarily by their nationality, after all, not their county or town. Even if there are no Muslims or immigrants out there people don't like to think their country is being taken over by foreigners.

[jacee]

47 minutes ago, Argus said:

Even if there are no Muslims or immigrants out there people don't like to think their country is being taken over by foreigners.

Paranoia requires medical treatment, not political xenophobia.

Edited March 18, 2019 by jacee

[Army Guy]

6 hours ago, jacee said:

I said police and security, not government.

You didn't read the link in the OP that I referenced. I won't repost it.

You may have read the OP , but you did not understand it....Your OP is talking about  RCMP, CSIS, and Public safety , All federal Depts, there for all part of the Federal government .

Local/ provincial policing and take their ques and most of their intel from the  above listed federal depts., very few large Canadian cities have there own intel network for terrorist or far right extremist. but you knew that already because you read the op right....but then you keep misquote it so maybe you did not read it very well.....

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, jacee said:

In my experience, that's not true in Canada.

There is more anti-Muslim xenophobia in conservative rural/small town areas where there are no Muslims and no direct contact with 'the scary other'. Imaginations run wild, fuelled by cut-throat bigot conservative politicians who have no qualms about creating anxiety and fear of 'the scary other' ... to get votes.

Could you give us some examples of cut throat conservatives creating anxiety and fear.....

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Argus said:

1. It's exceedingly clear.

2. Non sequitur

1. Disagree.  For example, did you consider the attempted arson at a Toronto hotel housing 50+ migrants?

2. Far right terrorists are terrorists.  

 

[Argus]

1 hour ago, jacee said:

Paranoia requires medical treatment, not political xenophobia.

The foreign born percentage of our population is already at 22% and is expected to rise to 30% by 2035. So no, it's not paranoia when almost every second person in the country will originate elsewhere, or be the children of those who originated elsewhere.

And that doesn't even take into account immigrants are concentrated in the big cities. Which means places like Vancouver and Toronto are going to mainly be populated by the foreign born and their kids while the countryside will be mainly made up of 'old stock' Canadians. That sets us up for a future violence if the immigrants in the cities don't assimilate. And how do they assimilate when they make up the majority?

Edited March 18, 2019 by Argus