Federal Conservatives lead in new Ipsos poll

[turningrite]

A new Ipsos poll indicates that despite Trudeau's Trump-bump, the Conservatives lead the Liberals by 37 percent to 33 percent. The NDP trails at 21 percent. Interestingly, when drilling down into issues, the two files that are most problematic for Trudeau's crew are immigration and cost of living (i.e. affordability), where in both cases a lot more people feel federal policies are generating negative rather than positive impacts. Although an election is more than a year away, the Trudeau government's star appears to be fading. Can it recover, especially when it seems committed to the immigration and carbon pricing policies the are at the root of its unpopularity?

https://globalnews.ca/news/4308765/andrew-scheer-conservative-frontrunner-trudeau-poll/

[PIK]

It will be fun to see trudeau and the climate barbie telling people to vote for us ,so we can save the world at your expense.

[taxme]

3 hours ago, turningrite said:

A new Ipsos poll indicates that despite Trudeau's Trump-bump, the Conservatives lead the Liberals by 37 percent to 33 percent. The NDP trails at 21 percent. Interestingly, when drilling down into issues, the two files that are most problematic for Trudeau's crew are immigration and cost of living (i.e. affordability), where in both cases a lot more people feel federal policies are generating negative rather than positive impacts. Although an election is more than a year away, the Trudeau government's star appears to be fading. Can it recover, especially when it seems committed to the immigration and carbon pricing policies the are at the root of its unpopularity?

https://globalnews.ca/news/4308765/andrew-scheer-conservative-frontrunner-trudeau-poll/

I know that there are some pro liberals here who will not want to see or hear about that. It looks like maybe their liberal days of running and ruining the country will soon be over and will be coming to an end. But It can't come soon enough for me.   Works for me.   

[taxme]

2 hours ago, PIK said:

It will be fun to see trudeau and the climate barbie telling people to vote for us ,so we can save the world at your expense.

Or that immigration minister of Canada who believes that Canada needs to become more diverse and more multicultural. Climate barbie needs to take a trip to the Coquihalla Highway in BC before the snow all melts. It just snowed a couple of inches there the other day. Bring your winter jacket with you, climate barbie. LOL.

[betsy]

14 hours ago, turningrite said:

the two files that are most problematic for Trudeau's crew are immigration and cost of living (i.e. affordability),

....because, for all the small town touring Trudeau had done.......he didn't really listen to people.  

 

 

 

[Army Guy]

Maybe it's not keeping any of his campaign promises.....nor living up to his tough stance on the NOTME movement, maybe it's all his promises to the UN, that end up being just hot wind....remember were back speech....

[cannuck]

Problem is: with the electorate's brain fart now in power for a full term, the debt and damage done will take a generation or more to correct.

[turningrite]

1 hour ago, cannuck said:

Problem is: with the electorate's brain fart now in power for a full term, the debt and damage done will take a generation or more to correct.

I too worry that correcting the damage may take a lot longer and be more difficult than many imagine. Just as Ford will have a hard time undoing Lib damage to Ontario, any government that succeeds Trudeau's crew will be in mop up mode for quite a while. And taxpayers will keep on paying. We know how this will play out.

[Jariax]

The sheen has worn off Trudeau Jr. 
And his bag of tricks seems to only contain feel-good announcements, oversimplified vilification of his detractors and contrived outrage at the most minor of sleights.  

[GostHacked]

1 minute ago, Jariax said:

The sheen has worn off Trudeau Jr. 
And his bag of tricks seems to only contain feel-good announcements, oversimplified vilification of his detractors and contrived outrage at the most minor of sleights.  

I predicted this would happen during the election campaigns.

[PIK]

12 hours ago, turningrite said:

I too worry that correcting the damage may take a lot longer and be more difficult than many imagine. Just as Ford will have a hard time undoing Lib damage to Ontario, any government that succeeds Trudeau's crew will be in mop up mode for quite a while. And taxpayers will keep on paying. We know how this will play out.

Conservatives are very experienced in cleaning up liberal messes.

[Argus]

And immigration was one of the key issues that are bothering people. Yet the Liberals can't do anything about it, because being tough on immigration and refugees is anathema to them and their base.

 

Edited July 6, 2018 by Argus

[BuzzKillington]

Oh for sure. PMS Trudy is gone next election. 

Guaranteed. 

[Centerpiece]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

And immigration was one of the key issues that are bothering people. Yet the Liberals can't do anything about it, because being tough on immigration and refugees is anathema to them and their base.

 

Liberals try to confuse people by mixing immigration and refugees. I strongly believe that Canadians are perfectly OK with properly managed immigration. What the Liberals have done to the refugee process is shameful - damaging to the country and to Canadians' compassion and generosity. First, the illegal border crossers are almost exclusively economic migrants and no matter what spin the Liberals apply, genuine refugees waiting their turn to be legally processed are pushed down - or off the list. Second, there has to be a carefully managed plan for each and every refugee that gives them the best chance to get on their feet. The federal government provides one year of funding - then dumps them on the Provinces and washes their hands. It takes money, a plan, competence, teamwork and compassion to make each refugee resettlement work. It can't be trivialized with virtue signalling and irresponsible "promises". 

[Argus]

10 minutes ago, Centerpiece said:

Liberals try to confuse people by mixing immigration and refugees. I strongly believe that Canadians are perfectly OK with properly managed immigration. What the Liberals have done to the refugee process is shameful - damaging to the country and to Canadians' compassion and generosity. First, the illegal border crossers are almost exclusively economic migrants and no matter what spin the Liberals apply, genuine refugees waiting their turn to be legally processed are pushed down - or off the list. Second, there has to be a carefully managed plan for each and every refugee that gives them the best chance to get on their feet. The federal government provides one year of funding - then dumps them on the Provinces and washes their hands. It takes money, a plan, competence, teamwork and compassion to make each refugee resettlement work. It can't be trivialized with virtue signalling and irresponsible "promises". 

You can't do that if you're taking in 50,000 or 60,000 a year. The number of 'refugees' we're getting is roughly the same as what Europe got last year, if you take into account that they have 14.5 times our population.

In addition, of course, we bring in 300,000 legal immigrants, many of whom are family class who have no job or language skills. Or job.

Most legal immigrants to the US need to have a good job offer before they'll be accepted. Canada has no such requirement.

 

Edited July 6, 2018 by Argus

[Centerpiece]

9 hours ago, Argus said:

You can't do that if you're taking in 50,000 or 60,000 a year. The number of 'refugees' we're getting is roughly the same as what Europe got last year, if you take into account that they have 14.5 times our population.

In addition, of course, we bring in 300,000 legal immigrants, many of whom are family class who have no job or language skills. Or job.

Most legal immigrants to the US need to have a good job offer before they'll be accepted. Canada has no such requirement.

 

Of course you can't - it's insane!  

[turningrite]

13 hours ago, Centerpiece said:

Liberals try to confuse people by mixing immigration and refugees. I strongly believe that Canadians are perfectly OK with properly managed immigration. What the Liberals have done to the refugee process is shameful - damaging to the country and to Canadians' compassion and generosity. First, the illegal border crossers are almost exclusively economic migrants and no matter what spin the Liberals apply, genuine refugees waiting their turn to be legally processed are pushed down - or off the list. Second, there has to be a carefully managed plan for each and every refugee that gives them the best chance to get on their feet. The federal government provides one year of funding - then dumps them on the Provinces and washes their hands. It takes money, a plan, competence, teamwork and compassion to make each refugee resettlement work. It can't be trivialized with virtue signalling and irresponsible "promises". 

Reportedly, the Liberals are well aware that Canadians, when fully informed on the matter, aren't actually supportive of Canada's regular immigration intake levels. A Canadian Press report a few months ago indicates that federal bureaucrats and the government are seeking to keep a lid on the statistics in an effort to manage (manipulate?) discussion and minimize opposition. I've copied a link (below) to an article about this matter. Reportedly, Canadians considerably underestimate the extent of the immigration program and become less supportive of it when they're made aware of the actual figures. Go figure.

As for the illegal migrant/refugee issue, I too believe the government's approach is irresponsible. We need to bring some clarity and accountability to this program. A good start would be to require the federal government to pick up all costs, including all social costs, associated with these migrants for a period of, say, five years and report the amount on a single annual budget/expenditure line so that Canadian taxpayers understand the burden that's being borne on this issue. Doug Ford was correct when he and his representatives insisted yesterday that the federal government has mismanaged this system and must pay for it.

http://brianlilley.com/bureaucrats-to-trudeau-hide-the-immigration-numbers/

[betsy]

On 7/4/2018 at 10:40 PM, cannuck said:

Problem is: with the electorate's brain fart now in power for a full term, the debt and damage done will take a generation or more to correct.

....and those debts are mounting......

 

Every time he opens his mouth is to announce more spending..........that is, when he's not responding to the groping allegation.

[Argus]

1 hour ago, turningrite said:

Reportedly, the Liberals are well aware that Canadians, when fully informed on the matter, aren't actually supportive of Canada's regular immigration intake levels. A Canadian Press report a few months ago indicates that federal bureaucrats and the government are seeking to keep a lid on the statistics in an effort to manage (manipulate?) discussion and minimize opposition. I've copied a link (below) to an article about this matter. Reportedly, Canadians considerably underestimate the extent of the immigration program and become less supportive of it when they're made aware of the actual figures. Go figure.

http://brianlilley.com/bureaucrats-to-trudeau-hide-the-immigration-numbers/

I like how it says “Public support (often aided by a diversity of prominent stakeholders) in indispensable,” 

A 'diversity of stakeholders'. Now who would that be? Uhm, immigration lawyers, who profit hugely from larger immigration and refugee numbers, and ethnic groups whose people are coming to Canada, mostly. Along with a handful of earnest, stupid progressive groups. Not to mention politicians who use immigration as a campaign tool to garner ethnic votes. Then there's big business. Big business loves mass immigration! It provides it with a ready supply of cheap, obedient labour, increases overall spending, and hey, as long as their taxes keep going down, there's no down side for them.

Then it says "But most of those respondents believed the number of immigrants arriving every year was under 150,000. After they were told is has actually been 260,000 for the last few years, the number of people who then said they felt that was “too many” jumped from 23 to 32 per cent."

Immigration is not 260,000. It's now 310,000 and the Liberals plan to raise it to 340,000 within the next two years. Wonder what polls would say about that if the ignorant sheep who think it's 'just right' were ever to be informed of the actual numbers.

Edited July 6, 2018 by Argus

[objectivist]

On 7/3/2018 at 6:21 PM, taxme said:

Or that immigration minister of Canada who believes that Canada needs to become more diverse and more multicultural. Climate barbie needs to take a trip to the Coquihalla Highway in BC before the snow all melts. It just snowed a couple of inches there the other day. Bring your winter jacket with you, climate barbie. LOL.

Immigration = Housing Crisis + Lower Wages + Higher Welfare + More Crime + More Taxes + Worse Education + Worse Healthcare = Bad for any Western country

[taxme]

22 hours ago, objectivist said:

Immigration = Housing Crisis + Lower Wages + Higher Welfare + More Crime + More Taxes + Worse Education + Worse Healthcare = Bad for any Western country

All thanks too massive third world immigration. Very bad for any Western country. But we can thank all those lefty liberal/socialists Canadians out there who seem to feel that what we need is lots and lots and lots more third world immigration. It will be good for the economy and the country they say although I do not see the country getting any better. Only worse. But hey, all those lefty loony liberal/socialists refuse to get it. To try and get them to see and understand this is truly an exercise in futility. Canada is so full of these liberal lefty loonie toons.

Aw well.  Carry on Canada.  

 

 

[taxme]

On 7/4/2018 at 5:46 PM, Army Guy said:

Maybe it's not keeping any of his campaign promises.....nor living up to his tough stance on the NOTME movement, maybe it's all his promises to the UN, that end up being just hot wind....remember were back speech....

Trudeau is probably looking for a UN job one day. With the help of his buddy George Soros he might just get a job with the UN one day. 

[Argus]

22 hours ago, objectivist said:

Immigration = Housing Crisis + Lower Wages + Higher Welfare + More Crime + More Taxes + Worse Education + Worse Healthcare = Bad for any Western country

Depending on who is coming in....

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, Argus said:

Depending on who is coming in....

That's true America doesn't mind stealing talented Canadian like The Weekend and Drake.

[taxme]

50 minutes ago, paxrom said:

That's true America doesn't mind stealing talented Canadian like The Weekend and Drake.

It is indeed sad that so many Canadian comedians like Martin Short, Jim Carey and John Candy to name but a few have to go to Hollywood to gain fame and fortune. You must admit that Canada does send America some great funny people. Many comedians in Canada who want to try and make a go of it here just cannot seem to get anywhere. Canada will always come in second place against America. Even our own Canadian creation the NHL our Canadian teams cannot seem to bring home the Stanley Cup anymore. It is nice to see a Canadian bring home a gold metal from the Olympics and come in first place once in awhile. I know one thing for sure and that is that one Canadian football league team will win the Grey Cup and it will be staying in Canada.  Whoppee for us.