bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 I don't associate with gangsters, or tolerate those who do. Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: They usually won't draw on open carry to begin with. Even a West Indian knows the rules are different in 'Murica than in Canada. It's not a Hollywood movie or 1950's western TV show. Actually, most American pronouncements of how they can shoot their way out of this or that situation sound pretty amateurish and fantastical to me.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I don't associate with gangsters, or tolerate those who do. I grew up in a ghetto, so I didn't have much choice.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Dougie93 said: Actually, most American pronouncements of how they can shoot their way out of this or that situation sound pretty amateurish and fantastical to me. That's fine, but the NRA will throw a parade every time it happens. Gun rights advocates in the United States don't give a damn what the gun grabbers pronounce. Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: I grew up in a ghetto, so I didn't have much choice. I left my ghetto, and took my guns with me. Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: I left my ghetto, and took my guns with me. I left my ghetto to the army and they gave me a gun. But before I was old enough for my dad to sign the papers, I was stuck with the gangsters of Regent Park and St. Jamestown.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Now, it wasn't as bad as the worst ghettos in America by any means, but on the other hand, they were gangsters and they did have guns and people did get shot for looking at them funny, from time to time.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: I left my ghetto to the army and they gave me a gun. But before I was old enough for my dad to sign the papers, I was stuck with the gangsters of Regent Park and St. Jamestown. Government gave me lots of guns and taught me how to use them. The good news is that gang bangers don't spend much time at the range. Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Government gave me lots of guns and taught me how to use them. The good news is that gang bangers don't spend much time at the range. The gang bangers here do. Most gang bangers around these parts are HAMC, big time gun nuts, they got battle rifles n' shit.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: The gang bangers here do. Most gang bangers around these parts are HAMC, big time gun nuts, they got battle rifles n' shit. Canada's big city gun homicide rate is climbing back to early 1990's crack levels, and it gets splashed all over canuck media. Ain't nuthin' compared to Chicago or Baltimore. Our gangs practice their skills on other gang members. Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Even where my father lived in Toronto, Corso Italia, the gang bangers there were real deal Sicilians, you wouldn't be able to shoot your way out of a beef with them.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Dougie93 said: Even where my father lived in Toronto, Corso Italia, the gang bangers there were real deal Sicilians, you wouldn't be able to shoot your way out of a beef with them. Again, I gots no reason to be associated with Sicilian gangsters. Hollywood doesn't make movies about Toronto gangsters. Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Canada's big city gun homicide rate is climbing back to early 1990's crack levels, and it gets splashed all over canuck media. Ain't nuthin' compared to Chicago or Baltimore. Our gangs practice their skills on other gang members. The gang bangers in Chicagoland ain't nothing compared to the HAMC methinks, the HAMC is an international criminal cartel.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Again, I gots no reason to be associated with Sicilian gangsters. Hollywood doesn't make movies about Toronto gangsters. That's because the Toronto gangsters are real deal Sicilians, so they don't attract attention like the Wise Guys in New York.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: The gang bangers in Chicagoland ain't nothing compared to the HAMC methinks, the HAMC is an international criminal cartel. Right....and the world lives in fear of HAMC from Canada. Even scares Hell's Angels, right ? Don't care down here....lots more guns for everybody ! Edited February 10, 2019 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Right....and the world lives in fear of HAMC from Canada. Even scares Hell's Angels, right ? Don't care down here....lost more guns for everybody ! Pretty sure the world does not live in fear of poor uneducated blacks popping each other with nines in the housing projects of Chicago.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: Pretty sure the world does not live in fear of poor uneducated blacks popping each other with nines in the housing projects of Chicago. Nor should they....most of these perps are popping caps in each other, including HAMC. Big deal.... Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 I don't worry about the HAMC because I don't do business with them, but none the less, they are paramilitary for all intents and purposes, they have all the toys and they love to play with them, so they know what they are doing come a gunfight.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Dougie93 said: I don't worry about the HAMC because I don't do business with them, but none the less, they are paramilitary for all intents and purposes, they have all the toys and they love to play with them, so they know what they are doing come a gunfight. That's great....never heard of 'em or their bad ass ways. And that's a good thing. Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That's great....never heard of 'em or their bad ass ways. And that's a good thing. I was just responding to your assertion that gang bangers don't know how to shoot. For example, in America the gangs have been known to recruit war veterans who have been in non stop gun fights for years on end.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 I once knew a troop who had come from JTF2, I thought he was a super soldier, and he was, except later I found out he was robbing banks.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: I was just responding to your assertion that gang bangers don't know how to shoot. For example, in America the gangs have been known to recruit war veterans who have been in non stop gun fights for years on end. Great story....less impact for most local gangs. If they wanted standoff accuracy they would use sniper rifles....ain't happening. Gangs are just a subset of an armed America. Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: I once knew a troop who had come from JTF2, I thought he was a super soldier, and he was, except later I found out he was robbing banks. ..and the USMC taught Lee Harvey Oswald how to shoot. Economics trumps Virtue.
Dougie93 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Great story....less impact for most local gangs. If they wanted standoff accuracy they would use sniper rifles....ain't happening. Gangs are just a subset of an armed America. I don't see gangs as the primary home defense mission, more likely to be deranged individual.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Dougie93 said: I don't see gangs as the primary home defense mission, more likely to be deranged individual. The threat skyrockets if one has any dealings or relationships with perp minded folk and their "associates", including deadbeat family members. Then it's meth head types doing B&Es for quick cash. Deranged or not....no sympathy. Economics trumps Virtue.
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