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Several states already have armed principals and teachers...the idea and practice is certainly not new.

Armed sky marshals were put on airliners going way back to the 1960's.

Some U.S. school districts will continue to augment on-site security with armed resources in some form.

 

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31 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Several states already have armed principals and teachers...the idea and practice is certainly not new.

Armed sky marshals were put on airliners going way back to the 1960's.

Some U.S. school districts will continue to augment on-site security with armed resources in some form.

 

The NRA's answer is MORE guns.  The idea of arming school teachers instead of reducing the number of guns in the country and banning semi automatic and automatic weapons of war is sheer lunacy.    

Some of students who witnessed the shootings have also been receiving death threats for speaking out.  

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1 minute ago, blackbird said:

The NRA's answer is MORE guns.  The idea of arming school teachers instead of reducing the number of guns in the country and banning semi automatic and automatic weapons of war is sheer lunacy.   

 

And just how would you reduce the number of guns in the country, which are legal to own and sell ?

...that horse is already out of the barn.

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8 minutes ago, Boges said:

Can't prove a negative. 

 

Don't have to....armed and unarmed SRO's have been a fixture on school campuses for many decades, including Canada and Europe.    There is more to security and safety in schools than just freaking out over the "mass shooting" threat.

http://www.crime-prevention-intl.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Publications/2005-1999/2004.ENG.Police__Schools_and_Crime_Prevention_A_Preliminary_Review_Of_Current_Practices.pdf

School districts clearly have invested in and believe that armed security resources are worth the cost.

 

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Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Don't have to....armed and unarmed SRO's have been a fixture on school campuses for many decades, including Canada and Europe.    There is more to security and safety in schools than just freaking out over the "mass shooting" threat.

http://www.crime-prevention-intl.org/fileadmin/user_upload/Publications/2005-1999/2004.ENG.Police__Schools_and_Crime_Prevention_A_Preliminary_Review_Of_Current_Practices.pdf

School districts clearly have invested in and believe that armed security resources are worth the cost.

 

Sort of like the school in Parkland that had an armed guard? How'd that work? 

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1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

He resigned for not engaging the threat inside the building.   Maybe he can get a job in Toronto area schools.

Ahhhh so only hire good guards. Maybe pay them more than the teachers. 

Or more likely, pay them minimum wage. 

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1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

And just how would you reduce the number of guns in the country, which are legal to own and sell ?

...that horse is already out of the barn.

The same way other countries have had to do it.  Amnesty and/or confiscation.  Perhaps there could be some financial compensation offered, but that would be costly.

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1 minute ago, blackbird said:

The same way other countries have had to do it.  Amnesty and/or confiscation.  Perhaps there could be some financial compensation offered, but that would be costly.

 

U.S. cities already have gun buyback programs...voluntary.

U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that Americans have a constitutional right to own and bear firearms.

 

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8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

U.S. cities already have gun buyback programs...voluntary.

U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that Americans have a constitutional right to own and bear firearms.

 

We know there is a right, but exactly whether that is unlimited.  Can a person have a 50 calibre machine gun mounted on a tripod or a shoulder-mounted anti tank rocket launcher?  There has to be some rationality to owning firearms.  I am sure the federal government could bring in some laws to define exactly what is reasonable and what is illegal.  Of course it will be challenged in supreme court, but that is part of how the system works.  

Trump won't convince anyone of anything with his bizarre comments about arming teachers.

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15 minutes ago, blackbird said:

We know there is a right, but exactly whether that is unlimited.  Can a person have a 50 calibre machine gun mounted on a tripod or a shoulder-mounted anti tank rocket launcher?  There has to be some rationality to owning firearms.  I am sure the federal government could bring in some laws to define exactly what is reasonable and what is illegal.  Of course it will be challenged in supreme court, but that is part of how the system works. 

 

Already done...decades ago.  Firearms that are illegal to possess or sell are already well defined in federal and state laws.

 

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Trump won't convince anyone of anything with his bizarre comments about arming teachers.

 

Trump did not create the issue.  

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2 hours ago, Hal 9000 said:

As long as the one and only solution for the left is confiscation...or removing the 2nd amendment, this conversation goes nowhere.  There are many solutions to reduce gun deaths in the USA, can anyone on the left mention even one?

Plenty have been mentioned time and time again, but the gun nuts have the Republicans in their pocket.

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