Moonlight Graham Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 Uproar after the Governor General of Canada recently called Canadian aboriginals "immigrants". He later apologized & said he misspoke. Quote "We're a country based on immigration, going right back to our 'Indigenous people' who were immigrants as well, 10, 12, 14,000 years ago," said David Johnston, speaking to Chris Hall on the June 15 episode of CBC's The House. Full story: http://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/governor-general-immigrants-social-media-outrage-1.4167384 Canadian aboriginals originally migrated to the continent around 15,000 years ago from Asia it's estimated. Whatever the year they came, are indigenous peoples also immigrants? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Guest Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 Sure. The only difference between them and me is the amount of time we've been here. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 StatCan says otherwise... Quote Definition of "Immigrant" Persons residing in Canada who were born outside of Canada, excluding temporary foreign workers, Canadian citizens born outside Canada and those with student or working visas. http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/81-004-x/2010004/def/immigrant-eng.htm Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Canadian aboriginals originally migrated to the continent around 15,000 years ago from Asia it's estimated. Whatever the year they came, are indigenous peoples also immigrants? I'd say they're migrants. If they'd been allowed or invited to settle the continent by whatever human society might have evolved here then they'd be immigrants. Immigrant denotes a political, bureaucratic or legal distinction. I suppose indigenous is a political term too and one that's become ever more politicized over time. That said, when I state or identify myself as being an indigenous aboriginal Earthling it seems to trigger political alarm amongst nationalists and often those with a racial bent. But then it even un-nerves native people so go figure. Its certainly a peculiar little pale blue dot we all inhabit. Edited June 20, 2017 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Guest Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 39 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: StatCan says otherwise... I meant the first ones. Obviously, no-one who was born in Canada is an immigrant. Same as the natives, really... Quote
Benz Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 They were colonists and they colonised Virgin lands... (by Virgin, I mean no other humans were occupying the territory. So they were not immigrants. Immigrants are people who come in a country already occupied by inhabitants. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 Hmmmm...this means the Queen of Canada would be an immigrant as she was not born in Canada. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Benz Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 42 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Hmmmm...this means the Queen of Canada would be an immigrant as she was not born in Canada. It's not false... but she does not live in Canada. So technically, she never immigrated here. Just pass by and visit us at our expenses. Quote
hot enough Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 10 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Hmmmm...this means the Queen of Canada would be an immigrant as she was not born in Canada. Such deep, penetrating thought. Quote
Argus Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 12 hours ago, bcsapper said: Sure. The only difference between them and me is the amount of time we've been here. You mean the time their ancestors have been here. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 13 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: Uproar after the Governor General of Canada recently called Canadian aboriginals "immigrants". He later apologized & said he misspoke. Full story: http://www.cbc.ca/news/indigenous/governor-general-immigrants-social-media-outrage-1.4167384 Canadian aboriginals originally migrated to the continent around 15,000 years ago from Asia it's estimated. Whatever the year they came, are indigenous peoples also immigrants? The only people bothered by this are the aboriginal guilt industry and lefty snowflakes. 2 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, Argus said: The only people bothered by this are the aboriginal guilt industry and lefty snowflakes. Seeing the various skull being unearthed in regions outside Africa, even the whole origins of humanity is up for a test. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) It's all semantics. Is there any place on Earth where the original people colonizers of a land can claim ownership generations later? How can you be more Canadians than someone else born here? Edited June 20, 2017 by Boges Quote
Argus Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, Boges said: It's all semantics. Is there any place on Earth where the original people colonizers of a land can claim ownership generations later? How can you be more Canadians than someone else born here? I'm sure a deep thinker like Trudeau could tell you... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hot enough Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 12 hours ago, bcsapper said: Sure. The only difference between them and me is the amount of time we've been here. Are the original inhabitants/tribes of Africa immigrants? Were slaves brought over to American immigrants, were they considered to be immigrants? Do you even understand the meaning of the word 'immigrant'? Check your own Oxford. Quote
Guest Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 Just now, hot enough said: Are the original inhabitants/tribes of Africa immigrants? Were slaves brought over to American immigrants, were they considered to be immigrants? Do you even understand the meaning of the word 'immigrant'? Check your own Oxford. I did! Well, Google, anyway. im·mi·grant noun a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country. That's me, and all those natives who came across the Bering Strait. You wouldn't say that someone should be treated differently based on how long they've been in a country, would you? You'd fit right in with the EDL! Quote
-TSS- Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 Your GG really needs to speak to his advisors as to what to say in public. 1 Quote
PIK Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 The natives and the snowflakes have to give up this victim crap. People are getting tired and it is going to blow up in thier faces when whitey says he has had enough. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
-TSS- Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) Everything is very relative. The Anglo-Saxons invaded what is today called England in the 400-600 AD years and took it over. They superseced the Celts and the Picts who were ruling the British isles before. That is only 1500 years ago. Just for a comparison, Finns and Estonians have lived in their whereabouts for at least 6000 years, maybe much longer. Edited June 20, 2017 by -TSS- Quote
hot enough Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, PIK said: The natives and the snowflakes have to give up this victim crap. People are getting tired and it is going to blow up in thier faces when whitey says he has had enough. Oh boy, countenancing another genocide. Quote
hot enough Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: I did! Well, Google, anyway. im·mi·grant noun a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country. That's me, and all those natives who came across the Bering Strait. You can't understand English. Quote You wouldn't say that someone should be treated differently based on how long they've been in a country, would you? You'd fit right in with the EDL! You are great at drawing illogical conclusions. See above. Quote
PIK Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 1 hour ago, hot enough said: Oh boy, countenancing another genocide. If whitey becomes a voting block over this minority rules crap in this country which is getting out of hand, politicians will listen. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
hot enough Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PIK said: If whitey becomes a voting block over this minority rules crap in this country which is getting out of hand, politicians will listen. If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. Sanity prevailed over McCarthyism. Edited June 20, 2017 by hot enough Quote
PIK Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 People get pissed off, they will show it by their voting. Harper was right about transparency and accountability on the reservations, and trudeau saying we don't want to know what you do with the money ,is going to come back and haunt him. Somer day the regular native is also going to have a say and then the chiefs better run. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Guest Posted June 20, 2017 Report Posted June 20, 2017 4 hours ago, hot enough said: You can't understand English. You are great at drawing illogical conclusions. See above. Yes I can. Actually, I'm pretty good at a lot of things. Quote
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