The Ill feeling between left and right on immigration

[OftenWrong]

Just now, dialamah said:

Funny though.  "Beiger and beiger".  

After what we've just been through, the forum culture needs a reset. So lets try and make tomorrow "be more polite day".

@Michael Hardner

@Charles Anthony

[dialamah]

2 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

After what we've just been through, the forum culture needs a reset. So lets try and make tomorrow "be more polite day".

@Michael Hardner

@Charles Anthony

What have we been through?   Did I miss something?

[Michael Hardner]

7 minutes ago, dialamah said:

What have we been through?   Did I miss something?

Snowflakes whining that nobody imposed the family life of "Leave it to Beaver" via martial law, is all.

[OftenWrong]

Ok, so I guess the guidelines don't mean anything.

[taxme]

14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

You're always crying about the demise of your made-up race.  Nobody cares, and after you're gone even fewer will.  You should find another hobby as the current one will eat at you as the country becomes beiger and beiger.  Maybe try collecting war memorabilia.

I am not crying about anything. You appear to cry all the time about anything that I say here.  What made up race are you talking about?  Are you saying that the Caucasian race does not exist?  Just curious. Are you Caucasian?  

I know that there are plenty of Caucasian people who don't care about what is going on against their Caucasian race. But that does not mean that others like myself cannot show some concern. I have viewed many times on the internet where Jewish professors among others who have called for the annihilation of the white race. Those morons need to be challenged and exposed, and that is what I am trying to do here. If some Caucasians or others don't like to hear this well to bloody bad for them. Let them go collect rocks. 

If you mean by beiger that Canada will become more non-white as time goes by than this should not be allowed to happen and should be exposed. I do not want my Caucasian country to become a non-Caucasian multicultural hell hole majority of non-Caucasians one day. Just by looking at the non-white world out there, and what goes on in most of those countries, I am dam glad that I was born a Caucasian and I am living in a Caucasian country. Boo-hoo for you if you don't like hearing that. I have a right to my opinion as you have a right to your opinion.  I am pretty sure that there is not one race anywhere on earth that will want to just sit back and watch their country being taken over by some other race and culture. Give that some thought.

Your problem is that you are rude, arrogant and an ignorant moderator towards members here that  you do not like. Maybe you should not be a moderator and go try something different for a change. I remember one time where you asked me as to why I post here. Well, as a member what I am suppose to be doing if not posting here.  Twiddle my thumbs and stay quiet? Now that was a stupid question to ask. Isn't that what this website is suppose to be all about. To discuss, argue and debate about whatever or did you think that this website is only for people like you, and that your opinions and points of view only count?  Maybe you should go take up a hobby yourself, and leave the members here to debate and argue among themselves. If you cannot avoid with the insults towards me and other members here, and wishing people like me dead, then you should not be here at all.  

 

[taxme]

15 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

I have done no such thing.  I have aspirations for the demise of opinions only, thanks.

Go back and read over what you wrote. What else is one suppose to come up with?  You said that you have aspirations for the demise of opinions? I guess that must mean that any opinions that you don't like should not be allowed to be heard or posted. What kind of a moderator are you anyway? You are a very strange one. Just saying. 

[taxme]

15 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

Hey that's not nice.

Personally, I don't think that this moderator is a very nice person at all judging by the way he talks to some members here, especially me. Bloody sad indeed. 

[Omni]

9 minutes ago, taxme said:

Personally, I don't think that this moderator is a very nice person at all judging by the way he talks to some members here, especially me. Bloody sad indeed. 

my god man, haven't you ever heard that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?

[PIK]

The muslim issue is not about skin colour.

[taxme]

22 hours ago, Omni said:

my god man, haven't you ever heard that people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?

My god man, why can't people living in glass houses throw stones? Is it against the law now?  

Edited August 10, 2017 by taxme

[Omni]

10 minutes ago, taxme said:

My god man, why can't people living in glass houses throw stones? Is it against the law now?  

I won't waste time explaining nuance to you. Carry on.

[taxme]

8 minutes ago, Omni said:

I won't waste time explaining nuance to you. Carry on.

You lack humor.  

[jacee]

On 09/08/2017 at 3:14 PM, taxme said:

Personally, I don't think that this moderator is a very nice person at all judging by the way he talks to some members here, especially me. Bloody sad indeed. 

Michael is a decent, fair moderator.

Like all people, he can sometimes be 'taxed' (hehehe) to the max.

You are purposely quite outrageous.

Why would it surprise you that occasionally someone will outrage you too? 

[taxme]

21 hours ago, jacee said:

Michael is a decent, fair moderator.

Like all people, he can sometimes be 'taxed' (hehehe) to the max.

You are purposely quite outrageous.

Why would it surprise you that occasionally someone will outrage you too? 

 

A moderator should at least hold is tongue with the insults. Calling me names and wishing me dead is not appropriate language that should be coming from a moderator. Where is the decency in his replies? I have never wished him dead. It would appear as though you have no problem with MH saying that he wished I were dead. But yet you attack me and protect him. Personally, from your reply, you are no better than him. Your reply has "taxed" me. But hey. 

"Outrageous"? Why? Because you don't like or agree with my personal opinions and points of view? Maybe I should start to find many of your opinions and points of view to be "outrageous" and maybe ridiculous also, uhmm?  After all, what makes your opinions and points of view less outrageous than mine?  You should think before you speak. 

It is alright to be outraged at what one says here but you don't have to wish someone dead. Would you like it if I said that I wished you were dead? Be honest with your answer?  

[Argus]

16 minutes ago, taxme said:

 

A moderator should at least hold is tongue with the insults. 

If you want to talk about moderation you should do it in the moderation topic. This one is about the personalities which produce left and right political views.

[taxme]

On 8/10/2017 at 10:04 AM, PIK said:

The muslim issue is not about skin colour.

Liberals and the liberal left wing media can never wait to use the word "racist" against anyone who dares to bring up the skin colour of someone. That is all they ever look for these days. They go ballistic on it. 

[taxme]

1 minute ago, Argus said:

If you want to talk about moderation you should do it in the moderation topic. This one is about the personalities which produce left and right political views.

So, from what I am getting here from you is that it can be open season on anyone here at anytime, right?  

[Argus]

13 minutes ago, taxme said:

So, from what I am getting here from you is that it can be open season on anyone here at anytime, right?  

Hardly. I've had a lot of complaints about the moderation here over the years. But I take them to the moderation topic intended for them.

[jacee]

On 10/08/2017 at 1:04 PM, PIK said:

Del

Edited August 12, 2017 by jacee

[jacee]

8 hours ago, taxme said:

 

A moderator should at least hold is tongue with the insults. Calling me names and wishing me dead is not appropriate language that should be coming from a moderator. Where is the decency in his replies? I have never wished him dead. It would appear as though you have no problem with MH saying that he wished I were dead. But yet you attack me and protect him. Personally, from your reply, you are no better than him. Your reply has "taxed" me. But hey. 

"Outrageous"? Why? Because you don't like or agree with my personal opinions and points of view? Maybe I should start to find many of your opinions and points of view to be "outrageous" and maybe ridiculous also, uhmm?  After all, what makes your opinions and points of view less outrageous than mine?  You should think before you speak. 

It is alright to be outraged at what one says here but you don't have to wish someone dead. Would you like it if I said that I wished you were dead? Be honest with your answer?  

Yes you should take this to the moderation forum.

I agree with Argus.

 

Now I'm going outside to watch the pigs fly.

[marcus]

On 8/8/2017 at 0:35 PM, Argus said:

It's not racist in intent. It is racist primarily because the governing parties prefer newcomers from third world countries.

Wrong Argus.

The largest immigration program, that goes through the Express Entry system is a merit based system. Language level is the biggest factor in scoring, which means that someone from a native English speaking country has a better chance of immigrating to Canada through this program because English is their first language.

Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp

Furthermore, there are special agreements that Canada has with majority of the European countries, Australia, New Zealand and a few other countries. They allow people under 35 to receive an open work permit to come and work in Canada. This results in work experience in Canada and it opens up options for permanent immigration.

Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/eligibility.asp

Conclusion: Europeans and those from English speaking countries have an advantage to immigrate to Canada over others, including from third world countries.

No offence, but you know VERY LITTLE about our immigration system. I recommend you learn a little more about it, before typing and sharing articles from Toronto Sun.

[blackbird]

Faith Goldie on The Rebel Media has a good seven minute video on the illegal migrants flooding into Quebec.  You don't have to be a subscriber to watch it.  JT has erased the borders to Canada and people are flooding in at unprecedented rates of around 300 per day now.  This will cost Canada a fortune.  One report said each illegal migrant could cost $50,000.  They have run out of space to house them in the arena and have now brought in the army to set up tents as well as taking over schools.  This must also be putting a strain on the welfare system.  But hey what the heck.  All one has to do is walk across the border and begin collecting welfare.  Canada is open to the world to be ripped off.

https://www.therebel.media/border_crisis_a_lesson_in_refugee_math_for_justin_trudeau

Edited August 12, 2017 by blackbird

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, marcus said:

Wrong Argus.

The largest immigration program, that goes through the Express Entry system is a merit based system. Language level is the biggest factor in scoring, which means that someone from a native English speaking country has a better chance of immigrating to Canada through this program because English is their first language.

Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/express-entry/grid-crs.asp

Furthermore, there are special agreements that Canada has with majority of the European countries, Australia, New Zealand and a few other countries. They allow people under 35 to receive an open work permit to come and work in Canada. This results in work experience in Canada and it opens up options for permanent immigration.

Source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/work/iec/eligibility.asp

Conclusion: Europeans and those from English speaking countries have an advantage to immigrate to Canada over others, including from third world countries.

No offence, but you know VERY LITTLE about our immigration system. I recommend you learn a little more about it, before typing and sharing articles from Toronto Sun.

Trudeau has erased the border into Canada.  Illegals are walking into Quebec now at the rate  of about 300 a day.  Do the calculations: 300  x  365 days =  109,500 per year.  One report said the average illegal migrant could cost $50,000.    All one has to do is walk across the border now and get on welfare.  This is going to cost Canada a fortune.   One immigration lawyer the CBC had on said the government should allow them to stay if they are coming because of poverty.  The host said wouldn't that just open the floodgates?    He had no answer.  Of course it would.  They would then come by the thousands daily and get on welfare and our country would soon go broke.  We would have no money or government services to take care of our own people.

Also, when they find out they will be deported because they are not genuine refugees, how many will simply disappear into the cities in Canada and possibly get into crime to support themselves?   They might find simply fleeing  to the cities and going underground instead of being deported is a preferable option.  I'm not sure but some provinces might even pay them welfare even though they are here illegally.  In any case, a lot of them might seek illegal refuge in Canada rather than go back to a poverty stricken country where there is nothing for them.  We are in trouble.  People thought Trump was crazy to talk about building a wall!  Hah   Trudeau is running  up a deficit of 30 billion additionally a year and our social services such as health care, social assistance, employment insurance, old age pensions ..all could be threatened if this keeps up.

Edited August 12, 2017 by blackbird

[jacee]

Canada has always had a steady stream of immigrants through the application process, and also waves of people displaced from their own countries by wars, famine, etc. This has been the same since before Canada was Canada.

And during every wave, there are always a few people crying 'IT'S A CATASTROPHY!!!'

It never is.

And life goes on.

Some people just like to create drama.

Some people just like to blame and hate.

Most of us just want to live our lives in peace, grateful to be Canadian and not haters, and welcome new people to join us in that. 

Happy summer, folks!

Enjoy! 

 

[Argus]

9 hours ago, marcus said:

Wrong Argus.

The largest immigration program, that goes through the Express Entry system is a merit based system. Language level is the biggest factor in scoring, which means that someone from a native English speaking country has a better chance of immigrating to Canada through this program because English is their first language.

Wrong again! Why are you always wrong? Shouldn't you try to at least be right occasionally? Maybe you should do a little studying on how our immigration system works.

Language proficiency does constitute about 15% of the available points. However, Canada does not test language proficiency. It contracts that to private schools in the region. Most of our immigration source countries are highly corrupt, and you can buy virtually any local document for a few dollars in the right hand.

Second. Your chances of immigrating to Canada are more dependent on how many visas have been made available to your local visa office and how much demand there is for them among qualified people. For the 2016 time period just over 12,000 visas were made available to the London visa office. The London office serves the United Kingdom, but also  Ireland, Iceland, Denmark, Finland Norway and Sweden. Now it's likely that if you are a natural English (or French) speaker you'd be much more likely to be interested in emigrating to Canada, but good luck grabbing up one of those visas. There's going to be a lot of competition for them! Hong Kong was given over 17,000 visas to hand out, and has a much smaller population base. All of Europe gets about 35,000 visas to hand out. The middle east gets 65,000, Asia about 51,000

9 hours ago, marcus said:

Conclusion: Europeans and those from English speaking countries have an advantage to immigrate to Canada over others, including from third world countries.

Your conclusions, of course, are based on half truths. Given their cultural, technological and educational abilities, not to mention their familiarity with English,  Europeans would certainly have an advantage over most other parts of the world, but given the way our visas are handed out it doesn't matter. Even if we had a million absolutely outstanding applications from Europe we wouldn't give them more than 35,000 visas. This is sad given that the immigration department itself has concluded that Europeans are the most economically successful immigrants to Canada. The least economically successful are those from Asia and the Middle East.

 

 

Edited August 12, 2017 by Argus