eyeball Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, bcsapper said: Islamaphobia has nothing to do with racism. It does the way right-wingers wallow in it. Quote If it did, there would be Hinduphobia, Sikhophobia, Catholiphobia, and an awful lot more besides. Like I said, there's always hope. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Moonlight Graham Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, hot enough said: That is a very nice thought. Why hasn't it worked for the most highly educated countries on the planet? Well, seems like it has. These countries seem less racist than poorer countries according to this survey, and certainly less racist than their less-educated selves were 50 or 100 or 200 years ago. But more progress is needed, still lots of ignorant folks out there. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
OftenWrong Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 39 minutes ago, eyeball said: It does the way right-wingers wallow in it. Like I said, there's always hope. Nice... and when I read leftists' posts I conclude... there's always miracles. Quote
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Well, seems like it has. These countries seem less racist than poorer countries according to this survey, and certainly less racist than their less-educated selves were 50 or 100 or 200 years ago. But more progress is needed, still lots of ignorant folks out there. If it has worked so well, why are there so many racial epithets invented by the USA to ensure that another illegal invasion can proceed? Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, hot enough said: If it has worked so well, why are there so many racial epithets invented by the USA to ensure that another illegal invasion can proceed? I never said it has worked perfectly to eliminate all racism. There's obviously lots of racism still around, just less of it. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, bcsapper said: If it did, there would be Hinduphobia, Sikhophobia, Catholiphobia, and an awful lot more besides. Those have all had their day. Do you really have this abysmal a knowledge of history? They just aren't needed right now. The US/UK war criminals don't want to invade India. Edited March 31, 2017 by hot enough Quote
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: I never said it has worked perfectly to eliminate all racism. There's obviously lots of racism still around, just less of it. The point is the US uses racism to invade wealthy third world nations. Is it not racist, besides being other equally evil things, for the US State Department to be making up death lists for its dictators? Edited March 31, 2017 by hot enough Quote
dialamah Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: Islamaphobia has nothing to do with racism. If it did, there would be Hinduphobia, Sikhophobia, Catholiphobia, and an awful lot more besides. There has been all that in the past. Didn't call it those names, perhaps due to lack of internet, but the attitudes were the same. Quote
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, dialamah said: 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: Islamaphobia has nothing to do with racism. Has no one else noticed the contradiction in terms? Edited March 31, 2017 by hot enough Quote
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Argus said: Indians, apparently. Followed by Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Iran. No doubt this will be a shock to the left, which would probably put the list as something like this: htts-worlds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html Isn't there a term, a phrase, an idiom for this, someone who really ought not to be pointing fingers pointing fingers? Quote
OftenWrong Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 11 minutes ago, hot enough said: Has no one else noticed the contradiction in terms? What contradiction are you referring to? Quote
Guest Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 55 minutes ago, dialamah said: There has been all that in the past. Didn't call it those names, perhaps due to lack of internet, but the attitudes were the same. No, it wasn't. Not even close. That would have been racism. Islamaphobia isn't. I would never argue that there aren't racists who use it, but disgust at and abhorrence of the more barbaric aspects of the behaviour of the worshippers of Allah has nothing to do with racism. Quote
Guest Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 42 minutes ago, hot enough said: Has no one else noticed the contradiction in terms? I would have thought you would have understood fully. You're an Americaphobe, but I'm sure you would object to being called a racist because of it. Quote
betsy Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, hot enough said: Are you suggesting then, that given the chance, they would slaughter as many of us as we have of them? Remember now, the west has slaughtered tens of millions, for the others, your bad guys, it's only a theoretical. History simply doesn't support such an idea because the way westerners tramp all over the globe, raping and pillaging, or just showing off their grand superiority, you would think that all these "racists", given so many chances, would have dragged them into the bush and slit their throats. I don't think he's suggesting that at all! Racism is expressed in various ways. You don't have to want to kill certain people to be racist. Refer to the OP. Edited March 31, 2017 by betsy Quote
betsy Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, hot enough said: This thread is tailor made for all the folks who like to banter about not much at all. It allows them to, once more, escape reality. You're turning all threads into the same spiel! Topics are all starting to end up being the same! People like you seem to be here to "monitor," to thwart what is being discussed that isn't to your liking! This forum isn't in your backyard - we still have some freedom to express ourselves in Canada! Your reality isn't my reality. I'm not deluded....nor am I a soft jihadi. If you're not among us who want to banter about "not much at all" - then, butt out of here! Create your own thread, and wallow in your own reality! Blast the murderous west all you want in it. Knock yourself out. One thing definitely obvious though.....you're like a moth who can't resist the flame. SHOOOOO. Edited March 31, 2017 by betsy Quote
DogOnPorch Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 What's the Arabic word for Negro, anyways? Isn't it Abed? Abeed (pl) = Slaves Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Army Guy Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, bcsapper said: I would have thought you would have understood fully. You're an Americaphobe, but I'm sure you would object to being called a racist because of it. I personally had another whole list of words for it, most i can't say here.....but Americaphobe is brilliant....but he is sort of a one trick pony..... Edited March 31, 2017 by Army Guy Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 5 hours ago, betsy said: If you're not among us who want to banter about "not much at all" - then, butt out of here! Create your own thread, and wallow in your own reality! Blast the murderous west all you want in it. Knock yourself out. One thing definitely obvious though.....you're like a moth who can't resist the flame. SHOOOOO. But betsy nobody wants to play with him...... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Argus Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Posted March 31, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, hot enough said: Are you suggesting then, that given the chance, they would slaughter as many of us as we have of them? The strong have always preyed on the weak throughout the history of the human race. If you think Africans would have been any kinder to Europeans if they'd had the superior organization and technical skill you're forgetting it was Africans who originally took their own people as slaves. If you're thinking Muslims from the middle east would have been kinder than you're ignoring the history of Muslim conquests where they slaughtered hundreds of millions of people. Edited March 31, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Argus said: The strong have always preyed on the weak throughout the history of the human race. If you think Africans would have been any kinder to Europeans if they'd had the superior organization and technical skill you're forgetting it was Africans who originally took their own people as slaves. That is a perfect justification for the Holocaust and all the little holocausts. Congratulations, Argus. I applaud your wisdom. Quote
Argus Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Posted March 31, 2017 15 hours ago, hot enough said: That is a very nice thought. Why hasn't it worked for the most highly educated countries on the planet? According to the study it has. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Posted March 31, 2017 15 hours ago, hot enough said: I think the folks in SE Asia, the Middle East, the Far East, Central America, South America, Africa, ... would be completely content to experience the racism of western societies. It's the murderous thieving and raping and ... that has them so bothered. Why? They engaged in it themselves, and continue to do so. The history of China is replete with massive slaughter and rape. The Muslim conquests of Christian lands, as well as India, are filled with stories of mass slaughter and rape. Rape and intertriibal warfare is and have always been endemic throughout Africa. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Posted March 31, 2017 14 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: Well, seems like it has. These countries seem less racist than poorer countries according to this survey, and certainly less racist than their less-educated selves were 50 or 100 or 200 years ago. But more progress is needed, still lots of ignorant folks out there. It's not simply a matter of wealth and education. Look at South America, as compared to Africa or the Middle east. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted March 31, 2017 Author Report Posted March 31, 2017 13 hours ago, hot enough said: The point is the US uses racism to invade wealthy third world nations. And yet, according to the study the US is among the least racist nations on Earth... Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
hot enough Posted March 31, 2017 Report Posted March 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Argus said: Why? They engaged in it themselves, and continue to do so. The history of China is replete with massive slaughter and rape. The Muslim conquests of Christian lands, as well as India, are filled with stories of mass slaughter and rape. Rape and intertriibal warfare is and have always been endemic throughout Africa. These ancient tales are what you run to, a relatively new and typical right wing meme, to defend post WWII western genocide and illegal invasions. Your wisdom knows no bounds. 1 Quote
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