taxme Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 Well, it's really getting beyond ridiculous when it comes to Trump and his ban against certain Arab countries. Now The Girl Guides of Canada have decided that they will not travel to the USA anymore or take any flights that have connections out of the USA because of it's ban. It seems to be endless with these people. So, let's just deprive the girls of a chance to go to say Disney as a group because some politically correct liberal decides that it would not be appropriate to do so. Why do these fools concern themselves so much with what America does? I just don't know where to go with this nonsense anymore, this constant bashing of America, and what they do as far as politics goes. Personally, I wish that America would retaliate and say no Girl Guides of Canada will be allowed in the States. Give them something to really whine about. We are the best of good neighbors, and yet we get people like this who want to create a friend into an enemy. Some Canadians are really starting to get me mad. Source: Huffington Post. 1 Quote
?Impact Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 1 hour ago, taxme said: So, let's just deprive the girls of a chance to go to say Disney as a group because some politically correct liberal decides that it would not be appropriate to do so. Wrong, the point is lets not take a group of young girls to the border all excited for their trip to Disney when one of their friends is turned back just because of where she was born. It is not the politically correct liberals that are to blame, it is Donald Trump - period. Your buddy Donald is the one taking away this opportunity, the responsibility is 100% his. 2 1 Quote
taxme Posted March 15, 2017 Author Report Posted March 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, ?Impact said: Wrong, the point is lets not take a group of young girls to the border all excited for their trip to Disney when one of their friends is turned back just because of where she was born. It is not the politically correct liberals that are to blame, it is Donald Trump - period. Your buddy Donald is the one taking away this opportunity, the responsibility is 100% his. Can't the leader of the Girl Guides call up the American Border Services and ask them if there would be a problem with a girl, if they have one from one of those banned Arab countries, not being allowed to enter? I don't think that she would be considered someone trying to enter America with the intention of maybe causing some kind of chaos in America while visiting there. It is the liberal democrats who have caused the problem by allowing thousands of illegal muslims and others into America. Trump is trying to stop this. Your hero trudeau is allowing what Trump is trying to put an end too. Trudeau is doing just the opposite of Trump and telling all the illegals in America that if Trump doesn't want you we will take you. Trudeau said this at his meeting with Trump last month that all illegals are welcome to come to Canada. No, this has nothing to do with the Girl Guide thing but more to do with trying to appear to be oh so politically correct when all they are doing is looking like a bunch of fools who appear to maybe have a hatred for Trump. Probably due to the media political party in Canada that filled their heads with nonsense about Trump. So many Canadians have fallen for their lies about Trump, and most no doubt have not done their own proper research about what Trump is trying to do. They just allow the phony liberal media to do it for them. Quote
Topaz Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 Perhaps it also has to do with some parents who were not born here too that would be deny entry also. Quote
dialamah Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 10 hours ago, taxme said: Can't the leader of the Girl Guides call up the American Border Services The person who answers the phone could say "Sure, no problem", while the person actually at the border says "Nope, not today". 1 Quote
hot enough Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 4 hours ago, dialamah said: The person who answers the phone could say "Sure, no problem", while the person actually at the border says "Nope, not today". They really are a duplicitous bunch, aren't they? Quote
dialamah Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 14 minutes ago, hot enough said: They really are a duplicitous bunch, aren't they? Not necessarily, more like right hand doesn't know what left hand is doing. Could be that people on phones never actually work at border crossings, and wouldn't know what might set a border guard off. I would just never trust that what I was told on the phone was something I could count on at the border. 1 Quote
Hal 9000 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 Everybody wants to be a victim! 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
The_Squid Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Everybody wants to be a victim! How so? 1 Quote
Hal 9000 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, The_Squid said: How so? Isn't it obvious? 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
The_Squid Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Isn't it obvious? you don't want to discuss it? 1 Quote
Melanie_ Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 I think this is a very good move. There are probably lots of Girl Guides, leaders, and parent volunteers who would have to be excluded from trips to the States because of the travel ban; there are plenty of other places in Canada and the rest of the world to visit, without having to leave anyone behind. It’s a good way to teach kids about what it means to belong – fun events and team building trips are for all members of the group. 1 Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Hal 9000 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 There's not much to discuss, some people look for solutions, many others take comfort in the victim role. The victim role can take away accountability and/or provide a passive aggressive statement. Everything we've seen on the news is based around fear and victims - ho hum! Ashley Judd has been antagonizing Trump supporters every chance she gets, then someone confronts her and all of a sudden, she's a victim in need of a safe space. Why is she a victim? Because, like all victims, they get something out of it. This girl guide thing is a political statement, nothing more - "Look what the mean old president Trump is doing to these poor girls". As I said, Isn't it obvious? 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Melanie_ Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 The Girl Guides aren't claiming to be victims, they are just making a logical choice based on the circumstances. They recognize that some of their members would not be able to travel to the States right now, so they are choosing to go elsewhere. 1 Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
Hal 9000 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 If they choose to go elsewhere, great. They could check on travel visas, but they didn't. They could travel within Canada and show these girls what Canada has to offer, maybe that's the statement they should release - but, they didn't. They claimed victim status when they released that press statement. They could have said anything they wanted, they chose the political route. 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
dialamah Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: If they choose to go elsewhere, great. They could check on travel visas, but they didn't. They could travel within Canada and show these girls what Canada has to offer, maybe that's the statement they should release - but, they didn't. They claimed victim status when they released that press statement. They could have said anything they wanted, they chose the political route. They should lie about their reasons for cancelling Stateside travel, why? Is it so Trump supporters don't have to know how their exclusionary policies affect real people? 1 Quote
?Impact Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: They could travel within Canada and show these girls what Canada has to offer, maybe that's the statement they should release - but, they didn't. or else you didn't listen. One of their spokeswomen was on the boob tube last night saying exactly that, this being the 150th year of Confederation that seeing other parts of Canada would be a great thing to do. Quote
Boges Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ?Impact said: or else you didn't listen. One of their spokeswomen was on the boob tube last night saying exactly that, this being the 150th year of Confederation that seeing other parts of Canada would be a great thing to do. Then this really shouldn't be news. The chances are still incredibly low of being stopped at the border for no reason. Only now with Trump, the media flocks to anyone that does. Edited March 15, 2017 by Boges Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, ?Impact said: or else you didn't listen. One of their spokeswomen was on the boob tube last night saying exactly that, this being the 150th year of Confederation that seeing other parts of Canada would be a great thing to do. Or any other year. Can't GG travel junkets find enough interesting and rewarding places to travel in Canada ? Canada is larger than the United States last time I checked. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Then this really shouldn't be news. The chances are still incredibly low of being stopped at the border for no reason. Only now with Trump, the media flocks to anyone that does. Agreed.....according to that Canadian pastor, even "white folks" are being stopped at the border now....how shocking ! Because it never happened before, right ? Trump is so mean ! 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Melanie_ Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) The travel ban restricts people with certain passports from travelling to the States. Some of them would be on these trips. Therefore, they are planning to travel elsewhere. How is this hard to understand? Edited March 15, 2017 by Melanie_ 1 Quote For to be free is not merely to cast off one's chains, but to live in a way that respects and enhances the freedom of others. Nelson Mandela
DogOnPorch Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 Saudi Arabia is nice, I hear. 2 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
?Impact Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Can't GG travel junkets find enough interesting and rewarding places to travel in Canada ? Absolutely, but the point of travel is not only about places it is about people as well. 1 Quote
Hal 9000 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, dialamah said: They should lie about their reasons for cancelling Stateside travel, why? Is it so Trump supporters don't have to know how their exclusionary policies affect real people? No, not lie. There are many reasons for going or not going somewhere. Aren't you currently arguing about tourism dropping in western europe and the reason for that ? What I'm saying is that they could've said to the kids and parents "we're going to Banff, Tofino or Peggy's cove this year", instead they chose the route of "president Trump hates brown people, so some of you might get stopped at the border". Therefore, they made it what they wanted to make it - political, and what they're teaching these young girls is that claiming victim status is more noble than looking for a better solution and moving on. 1 Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
DogOnPorch Posted March 15, 2017 Report Posted March 15, 2017 Tourism is crashing in Europe because of Trump...duh. Get with the program. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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