"Western countries should be ready to drown in blood and tears."

[Altai]

President Erdogan warns Western countries who support terror organizations  He says if you keep supporting terror organizations, you will drown in blood and tears  I dont know what he means. Said during his speech at Tubitack. He said, those who watch terror attacks and blowing bombs in Turkiye as like watching a movie, should be ready for the same fate 


Source: http://bit.ly/2iHPHCF


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Terör örgütleri eninde sonunda, mutlaka kendilerini besleyen ülkelere de saldıracaklardır." ifadelerini kullanan Erdoğan, "Nitekim bunun emareleri zaman zaman ortaya çıkıyor. Yılanla yatağa giren, ısırılıp zehirlenmeyi göze almalıdır. Terör örgütleriyle iş tutanlar da kana ve gözyaşına boğulmaya hazır olmalıdır. Türkiye'de patlayan bombaları film sahnesi gibi seyredip, bunların müsebbibi olan örgütlere kol kanat germeyi sürdürenleri, yarın aynı akıbetin beklediğini anlamak için müneccim olmaya gerek yok." şeklinde konuştu. 

Edited December 29, 2016 by Altai

[betsy]

Yeah.....yeah....yeah.

 

You say you don't know what he meant by that?

If it's not clear to you what he meant by that - and you're Turkish - how the heck do non-Turkish folks know what he meant by that?  Especially those he's giving his warning to?  Maybe he should hire a competent publicist or speech writer, so his message will come across?

 

< scratching head >

 

Why talk in Turkish if he's supposed to be warning western nations?  He's not warning western nations.  He's just telling Turkish folks that he is. 

 

Edited December 29, 2016 by betsy

[drummindiver]

This is what is alliwefd to pass as thread topic from this pOster.  The mods have certainly deleted more relevant and less violent threads for no reason. if I knew how to report I would.

[Ash74]

It is just a man who is lacking self-confidence Saber rattling trying to get a better deal with the EU. 

The North Korea technique of threatening for dollars. 

 

[dialamah]

Just now, drummindiver said:

This is what is alliwefd to pass as thread topic from this pOster.  The mods have certainly deleted more relevant and less violent threads for no reason. if I knew how to report I would.

At the top of every post it says "Posted 2 hours ago" (or whatever) and right beside that is "Report Post".

Why would you want to delete this post though?   I think it's an interesting topic - is Erdogan really blaming the West for terrorism or is he, as Betsy said, just blowing smoke?   And if he really wants to 'warn' supporters of terror, why isn't he threatening Saudi Arabia?  

The OP has me blocked, so I can't ask her that, but maybe it would be asked by someone else.  

[betsy]

13 minutes ago, drummindiver said:

Western countries should drown in blood is not really a conversation starter. She also has several threads goin on this subject.

 

It's one of those overly dramatic way of talking common to them, I suppose.  Like, squirm like a snake on a pile of rusty nails, and may you get tetanus, and you cry with tears of yellow pus!

[Goddess]

Are we at war with Turkey and I missed the newsflash or something?

I had no idea the Turkeys hated us so much until I came to this forum.

[Altai]

Turkish and US officials debating heatedly. 

Turkiye; You are supporting terror organizations.

US; Haaah this is funny, we DONT, dot !!!

Turkiye; Yes you dooo, dot !!! 



They seem like mentally disabled to me with these kind of stupid debates. US is supporting terror organizations as many other Western countries and there are many proofs and evidences of it. There is nothing to debate.

We should invade US as soon as possible for the same reason they invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria.

[Guest]

Blood and tears.  Do they have the same specific gravity, or would we be drowning in blood or tears?

[Moonlight Graham]

26 minutes ago, Altai said:

We should invade US as soon as possible for the same reason they invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria.

Good luck with that!  As a NATO member, Turkey would be required to defend the US against itself.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Good luck with that!  As a NATO member, Turkey would be required to defend the US against itself.

 

The ONLY reason Turkey was ever thought desirable to NATO was due to the range of the Jupiter-C ballistic missile. Those days have LONG passed.

[marcus]

4 hours ago, betsy said:

 

It's one of those overly dramatic way of talking common to them, I suppose.  Like, squirm like a snake on a pile of rusty nails, and may you get tetanus, and you cry with tears of yellow pus!

Or like when Netanyahu or any president of United States is asked about the use of nuclear weapons and they say: "All options are on the table."

[DogOnPorch]

2 minutes ago, marcus said:

Or like when Netanyahu or any president of United States is asked about the use of nuclear weapons and they say: "All options are on the table."

 

One HAS to say that. That's the point of MAD.

[Rue]

4 minutes ago, marcus said:

Or like when Netanyahu or any president of United States is asked about the use of nuclear weapons and they say: "All options are on the table."

Or like when you fabricate alleged comments by Netanyahu and Presidents of the US and try use such false allegations to try rationalize incoherent babble

from Erdogan.

Go on provide the quote from Netanyahu or any US President and explain how its even remotely the same as what Erdogan babbled.

Finish what you started,

 

[Moonlight Graham]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The ONLY reason Turkey was ever thought desirable to NATO was due to the range of the Jupiter-C ballistic missile. Those days have LONG passed.

Turkey also borders Greece and would the only way over land to attack Europe from the middle-east, Africa, or Asia, besides going through Russia. Turkey is basically a buffer state.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

One HAS to say that. That's the point of MAD.

That's why I could never understand the horror over Trump saying he would use them if he had to.  What the hell is the point of them if you won't?

[Rue]

10 hours ago, Altai said:

President Erdogan warns Western countries who support terror organizations  He says if you keep supporting terror organizations, you will drown in blood and tears  I dont know what he means. Said during his speech at Tubitack. He said, those who watch terror attacks and blowing bombs in Turkiye as like watching a movie, should be ready for the same fate 


Source: http://bit.ly/2iHPHCF


Original text related with the topic; 
 

 

Well he speaks from first hand  knowledge having created and financed ISIL and other terrorist organizations.

http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/172908/sec_id/172908

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/berlin-paper-links-erdogan-to-islamist-terror-groups-1.2758296

http://www.mintpressnews.com/211624-2/211624/

http://www.businessinsider.com/links-between-turkey-and-isis-are-now-undeniable-2015-7

http://www.thetower.org/1493-erdogan-trying-to-hide-evidence-of-involvement-in-supporting-terrorism/

Erdogan is a joke. He supports terrorists and then has the audacity to lecture others on supporting them?

What a joke.

 

 

 

[DogOnPorch]

5 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

That's why I could never understand the horror over Trump saying he would use them if he had to.  What the hell is the point of them if you won't?

We saw what happens with non-existent Red-Lines.

7 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Turkey also borders Greece and would the only way over land to attack Europe from the middle-east, Africa, or Asia, besides going through Russia. Turkey is basically a buffer state.

Yes...never meant to be a serious 'member'. The Atlantic is way over that-a-ways.

[marcus]

12 minutes ago, Rue said:

Well he speaks from first hand  knowledge having created and financed ISIL and other terrorist organizations.

Erdogan is a joke. He supports terrorists and then has the audacity to lecture others on supporting them?

What a joke.

 

 

 

Turkey has helped ISIL. The U.S. has helped Al Qaeda in Syria, Libya and Sudan. Israel has helped Al Qaeda in Syria. 

They are all jokes and hypocrites. 

[Altai]

1 hour ago, marcus said:

Turkey has helped ISIL. The U.S. has helped Al Qaeda in Syria, Libya and Sudan. Israel has helped Al Qaeda in Syria. 

They are all jokes and hypocrites. 

You are right except Turkiye part of your claims. If you have a claim, you can post it in my "News Analysis" topic together proofs and evidences.

[marcus]

31 minutes ago, Rue said:

Or like when you fabricate alleged comments by Netanyahu and Presidents of the US

 

No fabrication. Look up the hundreds of videos where they have said "All options are on the table" when asked about the use of nuclear weapons.

Here are examples of these leaders stating that they're willing to commit genocide and mass killing, with "all options are on the table":

Obama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgAFkwq9AKc

Netanyahu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzTpOgCFFWU

Khamenei: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB1VTKvfpmM

They all have the same message. The only difference is how they deliver them. The Iranian and Turk deliver their message in the typical dramatic, poetic way, while the politicians who are addressing Western audiences, deliver the same message in a conservative, dry way.

Go on. Finish what you started and deny the undeniable like you usually do.

Edited December 29, 2016 by marcus

[marcus]

9 minutes ago, Altai said:

You are right except Turkiye part of your claims. If you have a claim, you can post it in my "News Analysis" topic together proofs and evidences.

Come on.

Just stop with the unconditional support and nationalism. It's ridiculous to deny the undeniable. 

It is well-known that Turkey has bought oil from ISIL. You want evidence, do a google search. You will find hundreds of articles and evidence pointing to this.

Turkey doesn't mind ISIL in the territory because, not only do they supply Turkey with cheap oil, but they also counter the balance of power of the Kurds. Turkey has now, several times, used ISIL as an excuse to target the Kurds. 

[Ash74]

3 hours ago, Altai said:

Turkish and US officials debating heatedly. 

Turkiye; You are supporting terror organizations.

US; Haaah this is funny, we DONT, dot !!!

Turkiye; Yes you dooo, dot !!! 



They seem like mentally disabled to me with these kind of stupid debates. US is supporting terror organizations as many other Western countries and there are many proofs and evidences of it. There is nothing to debate.

We should invade US as soon as possible for the same reason they invaded Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria.

Turkey invading the US. That should be a pretty quick war. 

I guess if you want to lose your air force,navy,military bases,power plants,bridges and factories. Yes that is the best way to go about it. 

[betsy]

2 hours ago, marcus said:

No fabrication. Look up the hundreds of videos where they have said "All options are on the table" when asked about the use of nuclear weapons.

Here are examples of these leaders stating that they're willing to commit genocide and mass killing, with "all options are on the table":

Obama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgAFkwq9AKc

Netanyahu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzTpOgCFFWU

Khamenei: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB1VTKvfpmM

They all have the same message. The only difference is how they deliver them. The Iranian and Turk deliver their message in the typical dramatic, poetic way, while the politicians who are addressing Western audiences, deliver the same message in a conservative, dry way.

Go on. Finish what you started and deny the undeniable like you usually do.

 

What has that got to do with the "flowery" over-dramatic language by Erdogan -  like, "drown in your blood and tears?"

I mean, they do have a way of talking.  The funny thing is that it seems he was even way toooo dramatic for Altai - being Turkish herself - yet, she didn't get what he meant!

 

Read my post again.....

 

Edited December 29, 2016 by betsy

[JamesHackerMP]

Altai, your posts are getting a little more and more...unstable.  And dare I ask, what terror organizations would those be?

Edited December 30, 2016 by JamesHackerMP