Omni Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 Even a solid right winger like Harper is nervous about Trump coming into power. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/trump-poised-to-reverse-seven-decades-of-us-foreign-policy-harper/article33677222/ “The Trump presidency is a major source of global uncertainty,” Harper said Thursday in a speech in New Delhi, the speaking notes for which were obtained by The Canadian Press. Quote
OftenWrong Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 27 minutes ago, Omni said: I think it actually demonstrates their wish for democracy, i.e. majority rule. Majority rule is vigilantism. Democracy is based on laws that promote fairness, not tyranny of the herd. Quote
Omni Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Majority rule is vigilantism. Democracy is based on laws that promote fairness, not tyranny of the herd. So what then do you call the electoral college undermining the will of the people? Quote
OftenWrong Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 I knew you were going to say that and it's time for you and the others to get over this now. It has already been explained to you why such systems exist, including the system of Ridings in Canada. If you study history you will see why Federalism could not be achieved otherwise. Quote
Omni Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: I knew you were going to say that and it's time for you and the others to get over this now. It has already been explained to you why such systems exist, including the system of Ridings in Canada. If you study history you will see why Federalism could not be achieved otherwise. I just find it rather ironic that one of the main reasons for the EC was to stop a totally unqualified person from achieving the highest office in the land, and now they have installed Trump. Might be time to rethink the whole plan. Quote
OftenWrong Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, Omni said: I just find it rather ironic that one of the main reasons for the EC was to stop a totally unqualified person from achieving the highest office in the land, and now they have installed Trump. Might be time to rethink the whole plan. Whatever the new system is that you propose, it must address the issue of providing meaningful representation for people across a large area. Cod fishermen on the east coast will not be subject to the whims of latte sippers in California. The idea being to protect the diverse cultures in a land. Otherwise, you ain't got a country bub. Quote
Omni Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 1 minute ago, OftenWrong said: Whatever the new system is that you propose, it must address the issue of providing meaningful representation for people across a large area. Cod fishermen on the east coast will not be subject to the whims of latte sippers in California. The idea being to protect the diverse cultures in a land. Otherwise, you ain't got a country bub. Very simple, you add up the votes and you declare a winner. The latte sippers and the fisherman get an equal crack. 200 years ago the people may have needed protection from their ignorance of things political, but not nowadays. Quote
OftenWrong Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Omni said: Very simple, you add up the votes and you declare a winner. The latte sippers and the fisherman get an equal crack. 200 years ago the people may have needed protection from their ignorance of things political, but not nowadays. But that way they don't get equal crack, friend. The EC helps to ensure they do get some. Hardly anyone wants to be a fisherman or farmer. That's too much like hard work. It's a huge cultural problem. The book "Town Mouse, Country Mouse" will tell you all you need to know about this cultural dichotomy that cannot be ignored. Quote
Omni Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: But that way they don't get equal crack, friend. The EC helps to ensure they do get some. Hardly anyone wants to be a fisherman or farmer. That's too much like hard work. It's a huge cultural problem. The book "Town Mouse, Country Mouse" will tell you all you need to know about this cultural dichotomy that cannot be ignored. The EC just thwarted the popular vote, whether they were fishermen, farmers, or unemployed rust belt workers doesn't matter, roughly 3 million of them didn't want Trump, and now they have him anyways. Maybe you should upgrade your library. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 This thread is about the inauguration folks. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
?Impact Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 It seems like there were no disruptions during the inauguration. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, ?Impact said: It seems like there were no disruptions during the inauguration. Nope...just hooligans rioting on other D.C. streets. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
?Impact Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Nope...just hooligans rioting on other D.C. streets. A couple of very minor scuffles, and tens of millions of peaceful people. Quote
eyeball Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, ?Impact said: It seems like there were no disruptions during the inauguration. Well sure, if you don't count Trump. 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 Strong...dark...."muscular" speech by President Trump. Trump is pissed ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
segnosaur Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 Well, at least is inauguration has proven one thing: That time travel is not possible. Because if it was, you would have seen people from the future returning to stop Trump from being president (being the time in the world's history when everything went wrong.) Of course, while Trump was having his big pre-inauguration party, protests were held which easily dwarfed the inauguration celebrations. http://www.ottawacitizen.com/entertainment/michael+moore+alec+baldwin+robert+niro+anti/12747027/story.html Quote
Boges Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 Apparently there has been Tear Gas used in the protests. Quote
Topaz Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 So now there 95 Protestors be arrested, some police hurt, and protesters, and I wonder if G. Sorso has anything to do with any of these guys and there there protesters all over the USA. Quote
Topaz Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 IF the police can't control this, the military may have to be called in and then what?? Quote
Guest Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Obviously some people need a TV upgrade. Maybe a new kettle. Edited January 20, 2017 by bcsapper Quote
Topaz Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 Do u think these protestors know what a "PEACEFUL" protest is? IF they want to fight, maybe Trump should send them to boot camp, get some military time. Quote
Guest Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 It looks like there are some pretty desperate attempts to provoke as violent a reaction from the police as they can. Quote
Topaz Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 Just saw an amour vehicle, perhaps the National Guard? Asked why they are doing this and the reporter said its Trump, Clinton, DC government etc. These guys. I'd send them into military and then when they came back from the ME, they realize they really don't have it that bad. Granted, all government can improve but these guys are nuts! Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 I guess that's what happens when the president himself says you should take to the streets and revolt when a candidate does not win the popular vote and only wins the electoral college. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Guest Posted January 20, 2017 Report Posted January 20, 2017 Politically astute destruction of local resident's cars going on at the moment. Quote
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