BubberMiley Posted November 14, 2016 Report Posted November 14, 2016 40 minutes ago, sharkman said: Being that it's documented that dem operatives were sent to Trump rallies to stir things up, I would not be surprised to find out that some of these hate crimers are leftwingnuts trying to stir up some shit. It's certainly within the realm of possibility with some of the desperation they feel. Actually that "documentation" was a fake James O'Keefe stunt, but I'm not surprised you would spread misinformation without being fully informed. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Wilber Posted November 14, 2016 Report Posted November 14, 2016 1 hour ago, sharkman said: Being that it's documented that dem operatives were sent to Trump rallies to stir things up, I would not be surprised to find out that some of these hate crimers are leftwingnuts trying to stir up some shit. It's certainly within the realm of possibility with some of the desperation they feel. No, Trump never told his supporters to "take care" of protesters at his rallies. He never claimed that elections were rigged and he wouldn't accept a result if he lost. No sir, he never said any of those things even if they are a matter of public record and in video libraries world wide. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
sharkman Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 Not really sure what any of that has to do with dem extremists committing hate crimes to make republicans look bad. Either way, as soon as the left gets over itself and realizes that the sun is still coming up every morning, I'm sure their violence will cease. Quote
OftenWrong Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 9 hours ago, cybercoma said: On the topic of the OP, if you want to talk about stupid protests, then look at the idiots in Toronto protesting the Trump presidency. Now that's truly dumb. Conversely, I see a lot of misplaced outrage right here. Would you call it dumb? Quote
BubberMiley Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 40 minutes ago, sharkman said: Not really sure what any of that has to do with dem extremists committing hate crimes to make republicans look bad. Either way, as soon as the left gets over itself and realizes that the sun is still coming up every morning, I'm sure their violence will cease. You mean Stephen Bannon is a dem extremist just trying to make Republicans look bad? That sounds a little far-fetched. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
Wilber Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 45 minutes ago, sharkman said: Not really sure what any of that has to do with dem extremists committing hate crimes to make republicans look bad. Either way, as soon as the left gets over itself and realizes that the sun is still coming up every morning, I'm sure their violence will cease. Dems committing hate crimes to make republicans look bad.. You have anything to back that up? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
sharkman Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 Well, here's where one of the operatives resigns, http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/18/politics/project-veritas-action-robert-creamer-donald-trump-rallies/ And here's why he resigned. Then of course you have the attacking of Trump voters after the election, Chicago comes to mind. And more attacks before the election What I said about dem operatives committing hate crimes to make Trump supporters look bad, that's a theory at this point. But with the above violent acts recorded,(and how many have occurred and not recorded), and the riots and protests going on simply because Trump won, it certainly does seem within the realm of possibility. Quote
Wilber Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) What Cramer did was certainly not a hate crime. The other two might fit the definition but the Dems had nothing to do with them. They certainly weren't done to make Trump supporters look bad. Edited November 15, 2016 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 If you think Trump supporters are running around post-victory damaging property and drawing Swastikas, you really have downed the Kool-Aid. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 10 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: If you think Trump supporters are running around post-victory damaging property and drawing Swastikas, you really have downed the Kool-Aid. No need, they won. What if they had lost given Trump's statements about rigged elections and not accepting their result? The Democrats never even hinted at not accepting a result but this must be their fault anyway. But I know, no need to listen to what Trump actually says, just go with what you want to hear. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Boges Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Posted November 15, 2016 8 minutes ago, Wilber said: No need, they won. What if they had lost given Trump's statements about rigged elections and not accepting their result? The Democrats never even hinted at not accepting a result but this must be their fault anyway. But I know, no need to listen to what Trump actually says, just go with what you want to hear. I don't really think a week of protests and the hashtag #notmypresident exhibit accepting the election result. Quote
Wilber Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, Boges said: I don't really think a week of protests and the hashtag #notmypresident exhibit accepting the election result. What does that have to do with the Democratic Party? What does that have to do with Hillary Clinton? She stated that the result must be respected and Trump must be allowed the chance to govern in her concession speech. People are no longer allowed to protest in Trump's America? Will Nov 8, 2016 actually turn out to be the day democracy died in the USA? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Boges Posted November 15, 2016 Author Report Posted November 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, Wilber said: What does that have to do with the Democratic Party? What does that have to do with Hillary Clinton? She stated that the result must be respected and Trump must be allowed the chance to govern in her concession speech. People are no longer allowed to protest in Trump's America? Will Nov 8, 2016 actually turn out to be the day democracy died in the USA? If Trump is expected to own acts of racism and hate that are attributed to his election, the Democrats should implore people to accept the election results. We don't actually know if Trump would have denied the result of election. I think "rigged" rhetoric was a tactic to help rally the base. Something the Democrats did very poorly in the states that mattered. Quote
Wilber Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Boges said: If Trump is expected to own acts of racism and hate that are attributed to his election, the Democrats should implore people to accept the election results. We don't actually know if Trump would have denied the result of election. I think "rigged" rhetoric was a tactic to help rally the base. Something the Democrats did very poorly in the states that mattered. Trump incited it with his election rhetoric, Clinton did not. Typical, discount everything Trump actually says but hold Clinton to the letter. The story of this election is the alternate reality Trump supporters managed to keep themselves in. In a way, I agree with you. I don't believe a word the man says at any time, so it is just wait and see what he does. Edited November 15, 2016 by Wilber Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 Please...we KNOW it's rigged. Ask Bernie. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Wilber said: No need, they won. What if they had lost given Trump's statements about rigged elections and not accepting their result? The Democrats never even hinted at not accepting a result but this must be their fault anyway. But I know, no need to listen to what Trump actually says, just go with what you want to hear. Ditto re: Clinton. She's a corrupt POS...unless you ask one of her fans. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dialamah Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 @sharkman. Regardless of whether its a fanatical right fringe or a fanatical ledt fringe carrying out attacks in Trump's name, it is still Trump's rhetoric that have given them the opening. There is no defence for that rhetoric, and not even a half-baked theory that left-wingers are engaging in violence now to make Trump look bad excuses it. This is on Trump, nobody else. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, dialamah said: @sharkman. Regardless of whether its a fanatical right fringe or a fanatical ledt fringe carrying out attacks in Trump's name, it is still Trump's rhetoric that have given them the opening. There is no defence for that rhetoric, and not even a half-baked theory that left-wingers are engaging in violence now to make Trump look bad excuses it. This is on Trump, nobody else. Guess again: it's a new day in America...you are responsible for your own actions again...finally. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 15 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Guess again: it's a new day in America...you are responsible for your own actions again...finally. Unless you are a white supremacist, antisemetic, anti Muslim, racist etc. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Wilber said: Unless you are a white supremacist, antisemetic, anti Muslim, racist etc. Trump will be President for 8 years at this rate...heh. Wasn't it calling folks racists that got us all here? Yes it was. Keep it up. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
sharkman Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 24 minutes ago, dialamah said: @sharkman. Regardless of whether its a fanatical right fringe or a fanatical ledt fringe carrying out attacks in Trump's name, it is still Trump's rhetoric that have given them the opening. There is no defence for that rhetoric, and not even a half-baked theory that left-wingers are engaging in violence now to make Trump look bad excuses it. This is on Trump, nobody else. Nonsense. Hillary, the MSM and even Obama were all tripping over each other referring to Trump as deplorable, scary, etc., IN AN ATTEMPT TO SCARE THE VOTING BASE INTO VOTING AGAINST HIM. It failed, and now those so easily manipulated are freaking out because Hitler got elected. What a joke, but this is all on the Main Stream Media , Hillary's campaign and Obama. Quote
Wilber Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Trump will be President for 8 years at this rate...heh. Wasn't it calling folks racists that got us all here? Yes it was. Keep it up. We have people on this forum saying going on the street and protesting is the same as putting a swastika on a wall and writing "Make America White Again". My statement stands. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 3 minutes ago, Wilber said: We have people on this forum saying going on the street and protesting is the same as putting a swastika on a wall and writing "Make America White Again". My statement stands. And again: you've downed too much Hillary Kool-Aid if you think Trump supporters are causing the riots and drawing Swastikas on private property. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Wilber Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: And again: you've downed too much Hillary Kool-Aid if you think Trump supporters are causing the riots and drawing Swastikas on private property. They are definitely Trump supporters who were useful to him when he was running. Now they are his problem. Everyones problem because they feel he has given them legitimacy. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
DogOnPorch Posted November 15, 2016 Report Posted November 15, 2016 You keep believing. Maybe Hillary will come back and save you all. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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