WestCoastRunner Posted November 3, 2016 Report Posted November 3, 2016 Ok so Bono received this highly coveted award by Glamour Magazine. Say what? Surely there are enough women to choose from. Is Bono invading our space? "Comedy writer Travon Free tweeted"Does Glamour magazine know giving bono the Woman of the year award to trying to undo patriarchy undercuts the entire point of the award."" I say shame on Glamour. Does anyone think he should not have received the award? http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37845314 Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
Guest Posted November 3, 2016 Report Posted November 3, 2016 He's just one of Glamour's "Women of the Year" according to the article. I have no idea whether or not he deserves it, not being one who follows the doings of celebrities, but I do think that if there were a Pratt of the year award, Travon Free would be a contender. Quote
GostHacked Posted November 3, 2016 Report Posted November 3, 2016 He's not a woman. I might view him as a bit of a pussy, but he is no woman. Maybe we can give Man of the Year to Michelle Obama. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted November 3, 2016 Report Posted November 3, 2016 Didn't South Park already 'award' Bono? Biggest something... Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted November 3, 2016 Report Posted November 3, 2016 (edited) 17 minutes ago, GostHacked said: He's not a woman. I might view him as a bit of a pussy, but he is no woman. Maybe we can give Man of the Year to Michelle Obama. I think Glamour mag might have noticed. I think the award might be symbolic. Edit> I realise you know this. Edited November 3, 2016 by bcsapper Intent was ambiguous. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted November 3, 2016 Report Posted November 3, 2016 16 hours ago, WestCoastRunner said: Ok so Bono received this highly coveted award by Glamour Magazine. Say what? Surely there are enough women to choose from. Is Bono invading our space? "Comedy writer Travon Free tweeted"Does Glamour magazine know giving bono the Woman of the year award to trying to undo patriarchy undercuts the entire point of the award."" I say shame on Glamour. Does anyone think he should not have received the award? http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-37845314 Who are you to question Bono's gender identity? Whatever though, I think I would've chosen Kaitlyn Jenner or Laverne Cox...wait a minute! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
kimmy Posted November 4, 2016 Report Posted November 4, 2016 I gather that Bono's charity does great things for women in poverty-stricken countries. They're fully aware that Bono doesn't have a uterus. The recognition is for his work on behalf of women. Surely he's done at least as much for women as Gwen Stefani or a gymnast. So why shouldn't he receive this recognition from a womens' magazine for the work he's done on behalf of women? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
GostHacked Posted November 4, 2016 Report Posted November 4, 2016 17 hours ago, kimmy said: I gather that Bono's charity does great things for women in poverty-stricken countries. They're fully aware that Bono doesn't have a uterus. The recognition is for his work on behalf of women. Surely he's done at least as much for women as Gwen Stefani or a gymnast. So why shouldn't he receive this recognition from a womens' magazine for the work he's done on behalf of women? -k Some seem confused by the term 'Woman of the year.' He may have done great work for women, but he is not one. Quote
overthere Posted November 4, 2016 Report Posted November 4, 2016 1 hour ago, GostHacked said: Some seem confused by the term 'Woman of the year.' He may have done great work for women, but he is not one. Shame on you for using a judgemental pronoun like 'he'. Twice. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
GostHacked Posted November 5, 2016 Report Posted November 5, 2016 19 hours ago, overthere said: Shame on you for using a judgemental pronoun like 'he'. Twice. There is no shame in using the proper pronoun to describe a man. I do have other pronouns I use for him (wait is using 'him' is also offensive?) but they would get me a suspension. I don't like him. Quote
overthere Posted November 5, 2016 Report Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, GostHacked said: There is no shame in using the proper pronoun to describe a man. I do have other pronouns I use for him (wait is using 'him' is also offensive?) but they would get me a suspension. I don't like him. GostHacked deserves criminal charges, not a suspension. "I"(twice), "him"(thrice), "they", "me". Jesus wept. Overthere is severely traumatized and may not recover.. Quote Science too hard for you? Try religion!
GostHacked Posted November 5, 2016 Report Posted November 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, overthere said: GostHacked deserves criminal charges, not a suspension. "I"(twice), "him"(thrice), "they", "me". Jesus wept. Overthere is severely traumatized and may not recover.. Why stop there? just crucify me already! Quote
OftenWrong Posted November 6, 2016 Report Posted November 6, 2016 20 hours ago, GostHacked said: Why stop there? just crucify me already! Oh, now you have a messiah complex! Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted November 6, 2016 Report Posted November 6, 2016 The whole premise is absurd, since Glamour Magazine has exploited women for many decades to advertise and move products that attack their self esteem and body image. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted November 6, 2016 Author Report Posted November 6, 2016 On 2016-11-03 at 6:08 PM, kimmy said: I gather that Bono's charity does great things for women in poverty-stricken countries. They're fully aware that Bono doesn't have a uterus. The recognition is for his work on behalf of women. Surely he's done at least as much for women as Gwen Stefani or a gymnast. So why shouldn't he receive this recognition from a womens' magazine for the work he's done on behalf of women? -k He's not a woman. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
WestCoastRunner Posted November 6, 2016 Author Report Posted November 6, 2016 8 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: The whole premise is absurd, since Glamour Magazine has exploited women for many decades to advertise and move products that attack their self esteem and body image. That is a different topic. Since you are so concerned about fashion magazines and their impact on women you should start a thread. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
GostHacked Posted November 8, 2016 Report Posted November 8, 2016 On 11/6/2016 at 5:18 PM, WestCoastRunner said: That is a different topic. Since you are so concerned about fashion magazines and their impact on women you should start a thread. I think it is related. Apparently there is an epidemic of how girls and women view themselves based on what the magazines put forth. If you are not a size 0 you are ugly, but then Bono is Woman of the Year. Come to think of it, it's kind of ironic that this mag would do that. Quote
Guest Posted November 9, 2016 Report Posted November 9, 2016 On 2016-11-06 at 3:16 PM, WestCoastRunner said: He's not a woman. He would be if he said he was, of course, which raises an interesting question: If someone else says he is, and he doesn't deny it...? Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted November 11, 2016 Author Report Posted November 11, 2016 On 2016-11-08 at 2:33 PM, GostHacked said: I think it is related. Apparently there is an epidemic of how girls and women view themselves based on what the magazines put forth. If you are not a size 0 you are ugly, but then Bono is Woman of the Year. Come to think of it, it's kind of ironic that this mag would do that. Not related at all. The OP is about choosing a male as woman of the year. This could apply for any mag or any event etc. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
-1=e^ipi Posted December 3, 2016 Report Posted December 3, 2016 WestCoastRunner's continued hateful and bigoted attitudes towards ideas that challenge her traditionalist world view of gender and sex are deeply concerning. It's 2016! Why do attitudes such as this still exist? Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted December 3, 2016 Report Posted December 3, 2016 On 11/3/2016 at 9:08 PM, kimmy said: I gather that Bono's charity does great things for women in poverty-stricken countries. They're fully aware that Bono doesn't have a uterus. The recognition is for his work on behalf of women. Surely he's done at least as much for women as Gwen Stefani or a gymnast. So why shouldn't he receive this recognition from a womens' magazine for the work he's done on behalf of women? -k Kimmy gets it. If Bono has done great charity for women in poverty-stricken countries, then they deserve the award. Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted December 3, 2016 Report Posted December 3, 2016 The sooner we blur the distinction between male and female, the sooner we reach equality in society. Quote
eyeball Posted December 3, 2016 Report Posted December 3, 2016 I thought we did that by being human. I like Earthling myself. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Derek 2.0 Posted December 3, 2016 Report Posted December 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, -1=e^ipi said: The sooner we blur the distinction between male and female You mean move away from science? 6 minutes ago, -1=e^ipi said: the sooner we reach equality in society. -Or- as society we would be encouraging the narcissistic delusions of the mentally ill........no different then attempting to listen to the "voices" caused (and only heard) by schizophrenia. Quote
-1=e^ipi Posted December 3, 2016 Report Posted December 3, 2016 2 minutes ago, Derek 2.0 said: You mean move away from science? I meant more with respect to social attitudes. For example, currently we have a sexist double standard with respect to genital mutilation without consent, where it is okay to do it to males but not females. Now if you blur such a distinction, now by mutilating the genitals of infants with penises without consent you risk mutilating the genitals of transwomen infants. Thus the practice of 'circumcision' now causes female genital mutilation without consent, which is banned. Or as another example, despite making up nearly half of domestic violence victims, domestic violence shelters are overwhelmingly female only. As a result, male domestic violence victims do not get nearly as much support as female domestic violence victims. Now if you blur the distinction between men and women, then you can't really have men-only or women-only domestic violence shelters, and such sexist double standards in society are harder to enact. Quote
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