Hillary Clinton and her health problems.

Topaz · August 15, 2016

The problem with the thyroid, stress can keep the thyroid out of control and IF it get too low, she can go into a coma, or too high have a heart attack and one can only monitor through blood work, which is usually done by a doctor. Patients don't have monitors like a diabetic would have. Also, if it too low, one gets "fog brain".

segnosaur · August 15, 2016

The problem with the thyroid, stress can keep the thyroid out of control and IF it get too low, she can go into a coma, or too high have a heart attack and one can only monitor through blood work, which is usually done by a doctor.

Uhhh...no. Just no.

- There is no need to worry about the hormone level getting 'too low'. If the thyroid isn't working at all, its not going to be not working even less

- Even if the level does start dropping for some reason, there are far more symptoms that will show up long before she goes into a coma.

- There is pretty much no chance of the hormone level getting "too high". After all, if the thyroid is not functioning, its not going to all of a sudden start functioning. Hypothyroidism doesn't work that way.

Patients don't have monitors like a diabetic would have.

Hypothyroid patients don't NEED monitors like diabetic patients need.

Diabetics need to test their blood frequently because insulin is "used up" fairly frequently, and blood sugar levels can change rapidly, leading to significant health concerns.

The hormones produced by the thyroid gland are relatively long lasting in the blood. Even if the patient stops taking synthroid (unlikely in this case), they can continue to function properly for several weeks before there is any apparent problems. (And if there is, any problems will be mild at first, allowing doctors to adjust medications appropriately.)

segnosaur · August 15, 2016

Why or what is so important about seeing Trump's tax returns?

Why don't you ask what's so important about tax returns to every GOP nominee for the last 40 some odd years?

Or better yet, build a time machine, and go back to 2012 and ask Trump himself. After all, back in 2012, Trump was pressuring Romney to release his tax forms.

Or go back to 2014, when Trump himself said "If I decide to run for office, I’ll produce my tax returns, absolutely."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tax-returns_us_5733b130e4b077d4d6f21a20

betsy · August 15, 2016

That is some first glass bunk right there.

Your thyroid is a gland in your neck that produces hormones regulating your metabolism. A hypoactive thyroid means that the glad is producing less than it needs to. Treatment involves taking a simple pill once a day containing Synthroid. Testing for it is simple and treatment pretty much always effective. (Its also a very common disease.)

The term "flaring hyothyroidism" probably doesn't know what they're talking about... what's going to "flair up"? The gland already isn't producing the hormone.. Its not like its going to take hormones OUT of the body. Anyone who claims there is a risk of 'flaring hypothyroidism" can probably be ignored.

I've been treated for a hypoactive thyroid for over a decade. It has not affected my health or lifestyle in any way.

Yes she is almost 70. And trump is older than her. Many candidates for the presidency ARE fairly old.

But, women do tend to live longer than men. AND, when a person gets older, their expected life span actually increases.

Trump is even older than her, if I'm not mistaken. He's 70?

The fact is that there are persisting rumors about Hillary's health.

Anyway.....is she taking uppers? Something about her eyes, makes me wonder.

segnosaur · August 16, 2016

The fact is that there are persisting rumors about Hillary's health.

Its the same sort of 'fact' that has people talking about Trump and his donations to NAMBLA. Not that I believe it, but people are talking about it. Smart people. Great people.

You quoted some article that was filled with bunk. After the article was totally discredited, the proper thing to do would have been to admit that you should have looked for more responsible information. Instead, you double down on the stupidity, and talk about "persisting rumors".

This is so typical of Trump and Trump supporters... The same pattern seems to be reused everywhere.

- Make some claim, with absolutely no evidence. to back it up

- Have other people point to the original faulty claim, and say "look, people are talking about it".

- Assume that the fact that "people are talking" means that it must be true, even though the claim has no evidence to back it up

Its just one big echo chamber, in the shape of Trump's empty head.

We've seen Trump pull the same stunt with other claims before... Obama's birth certificate, the '42% unemployment rate', etc.

In other parts of this forum, you have posted plenty of pro-christian nonsense. If christians blatantly pass around lies so easily, what exactly does that say about the integrity of those who claim to be christians?

betsy · August 16, 2016

Its the same sort of 'fact' that has people talking about Trump and his donations to NAMBLA. Not that I believe it, but people are talking about it. Smart people. Great people.

You quoted some article that was filled with bunk. After the article was totally discredited, the proper thing to do would have been to admit that you should have looked for more responsible information. Instead, you double down on the stupidity, and talk about "persisting rumors".

If I'm not mistaken, the rumors about Hillary's health issues started when she was hospitalized. That's a fact.

I don't know though what started the NAMBLA rumors about Trump. Reading it here was the first time I've heard of it.

To say that having a pedophile standing behind Trump is an indication that Trump supports pedophiles would be like saying the father of the terrorists sits behind Hillary in her rally, so therefore Hillary supports terrorism.

You quoted some article that was filled with bunk. After the article was totally discredited, the proper thing to do would have been to admit that you should have looked for more responsible information. Instead, you double down on the stupidity, and talk about "persisting rumors".

I quoted several articles........and, not every claim was bunked!

An article stated a fact! She was taken to the hospital, and she did missed important events due to it.

Furthermore, I stated a fact! RUMORS PERSISTS!

You seem to think that just because some claims were bunked, that therefore everything is bunked.

Segnosaur, the proper thing for you to do, would have been to hold your judgement, and your tongue (or your fingers) ........after all, the part that started all these rumors, is true. Given the lies Hillary had consistently fed to the public.....why should we assume this one is any different?

This is so typical of Hillary and Hillary supporters... the same pattern seems to be reused everywhere.

In other parts of this forum, you have posted plenty of pro-christian nonsense. If christians blatantly pass around lies so easily, what exactly does that say about the integrity of those who claim to be christians?

And so.....for added effect, he raised the Christian card. :lol:

This is so typical of liberals when they know they don't have any valid argument. They raise the convenient card for prop.

Vega · August 16, 2016

I have trouble reconciling the evil, cruel, dispicable character of Hillary Clinton that was presented for the past year to a sickly, dying, and ill Hillary Clinton that seems to be surfacing.

segnosaur · August 16, 2016

If I'm not mistaken, the rumors about Hillary's health issues started when she was hospitalized. That's a fact.

And any details involving her hospitalization have been covered, and she has been cleared by doctors to be fit to be president. That's also a fact.

That Trump supporters keep assuming that their echo chamber (repeating "Hillary may be sick" and then pointing to the first baseless claim as proof that "hey she must be sick") is evidence that Trump supporters are intellectually and morally bankrupt rather than evidence of some frailty on Clinton's part.

I don't know though what started the NAMBLA rumors about Trump. Reading it here was the first time I've heard of it.

Then perhaps you should educate yourself about it.

It was first mentioned in another thread (the Donald vs. Hillary thread). The logic and evidence behind it was discussed then and there.

Heck, I actually timed it... it took me 30 seconds to go to google, type in "Trump Nambla", and find all the evidence needed. Heck, it was in the very first reference I found! The fact that you sit there and post bunk about Hillary while not even taking 30 seconds to do a little research to find the evidence is a pretty good indication of how intellectually bankrupt a trump supporter can be. There are dozens of sites talking about the Trump/NAMBLA connection.

Once you can explain why you are dismissing the connection between Trump and NAMBLA, then you can understand why I am dismissing the connection between Hillary and her supposed health concerns.

To say that having a pedophile standing behind Trump is an indication that Trump supports pedophiles would be like saying the father of the terrorists sits behind Hillary in her rally, so therefore Hillary supports terrorism.

Uhhh... first of all, that's not the original source of the Trump/NAMBLA connection. Do some research.

Secondly, keep in mind that it was Trump that was making a big deal of Hillary having the father of a terrorist in a crowd at a rally. Had he kept his mouth shut, said "hey nobody can control who shows up at these things" then it wouldn't be a big deal.

I quoted several articles........and, not every claim was bunked!

Actually yes they were.

An article stated a fact! She was taken to the hospital, and she did missed important events due to it.
Furthermore, I stated a fact! RUMORS PERSISTS!

Yes, and those rumors are a result of the empty-headed echo chamber spreading nonsense to other similarly ignorant people.

One trump supporter telling another trump supporter "hillary is sick" does not make it so. It may be a fact that idiot trump supporters are spreading nonsense, but it doesn't make it a fact that hillary has health problems.

You seem to think that just because some claims were bunked, that therefore everything is bunked.

No, I think things are debunked because when I hear something, I actually research things to find if there's any validity. In the case of Hillary and her health, the rumors have been debunked.

Segnosaur, the proper thing for you to do, would have been to hold your judgement, and your tongue (or your fingers)

Not really. The proper thing to do (the proper thing to always do) is to address nonsense by providing actual real information.

Given the lies Hillary had consistently fed to the public.....why should we assume this one is any different?

For every lie hillary has told, Trump has told more than 2. That's a fact. Get used to it.

And so.....for added effect, he raised the Christian card.
This is so typical of liberals when they know they don't have any valid argument. They raise the convenient card for prop.

Thank you for illustrating my point so perfectly.

You see, I'm not a liberal. Last election I voted conservative. If you spent any time at all on this board, you have probably noticed me attacking many of the policies of the NDP and Liberal party.

I am also an atheist.

Frankly, I find people like you to be extremely problematic for conservatives. Rather than saying "here's a set of policies covering the economy, defense and foreign affairs", you tie conservatism to religion, and dump a bunch of lies on top of it. So not only do conservatives have to defend their policies, they have to deal with accusations that conservatives are knuckle-dragging buffoons because of the presence of bible-thumpers.

BubberMiley · August 17, 2016

By going after Hillary, it appears Trump may be trying to draw attention away from his own health issues, seeing as he felt it necessary to provide the following questionable letter from his own "physician".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-gunter/im-a-doctor-heres-concerning-trumps-medical-letter_b_11565838.html?

?Impact · August 18, 2016

By going after Hillary, it appears Trump may be trying to draw attention away from his own health issues, seeing as he felt it necessary to provide the following questionable letter from his own "physician".

I wonder if his physician stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Big Guy · August 18, 2016

I wonder if his physician stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

I am not sure Trump wants to go there. In 1968 he suffered from a mysterious illness that got him out of going to Vietnam:

"Trump’s exposure to the draft, however, didn’t last long. Two months later, on Sept. 17, 1968, he reported for an armed forces physical examination and was medically disqualified, according to the ledger from his local Selective Service System draft board in Jamaica, N.Y., now in the custody of the National Archives. The ledger does not detail why Trump failed the exam — the Selective Service destroyed all medical records and individual files after the draft ended in 1973 and the military converted to an all-volunteer force."

Mysterious Draft Dodge

Edited August 18, 2016 by Big Guy

segnosaur · August 18, 2016

By going after Hillary, it appears Trump may be trying to draw attention away from his own health issues, seeing as he felt it necessary to provide the following questionable letter from his own "physician".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jennifer-gunter/im-a-doctor-heres-concerning-trumps-medical-letter_b_11565838.html?

Maybe the letter was written by famed Trump Publicist John Miller.

The funniest part about Trump's letter... his doctor claims that his tests were "Positive" for everything. That would mean that he has every disease that it is possible to get.

Reminds me of the Simpson's episode where Burns was tested at the Mayo clinic and was found to have every possible disease (even hysterical pregnancy.) The only reason he didn't get sick is because all the diseases balanced each other out.

VIDEO LINK

Edited August 19, 2016 by Michael Hardner
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-TSS- · August 18, 2016

I'm sure she can manage one term as a one-term president is what she will be.

taxme · August 20, 2016

From: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/mark-foley-donald-trump-226896

Disgraced former U.S. Rep. Mark Foley — accused in 2006 of making sexual advances toward congressional pages — was sitting behind Trump the entire time Wednesday in Sunrise, near Fort Lauderdale.

There is also a picture at that link.

The person in question (Mark Foley) was very well known and his problems were well publicized.

Of course, its possible that Trump had no idea who this guy is... But the problem is, Trump was also blaming Hillary for having people at her campaign stops that she shouldn't have. So, either Trump is a giant hypocrite. or he knows who Foley is and approves of what he did.

I am pretty sure that Hillary has a pedophile or two in front or behind her back at times during her rallies, and some problem are probably well known to her and her pro-pedophile party.

It's all about nik-picking each other to death, and trying to see as to who will come out ahead of the other in the end. Politics is all full of bull.

taxme · August 20, 2016

What, apart from us wanting to see if he really donated to NAMBLA? (I don't believe it myself, but people are talking about it. Smart people. The best people.)

Well, in general we want to see any Candidate's tax returns to see if they have a conflict of interest that voters should be worried about. In Trump's case, that could involve financial dealings with Russian politicians and oligarchs. (Given the fact that American banks seem to want to avoid dealing with Trump now, he needs to get his funding somewhere. If he's going to be dealing with the Russians as president, it makes sense to know whether he is in current financial debt to any of them.)

And in Trump's case, we want to see his tax returns to see what his real wealth is. He has claimed he is a billionaire, and he has built his reputation and campaign strategy on his business savvy. But if his tax returns show that he has no more money than what he inherited from his dad, that would indicate his business abilities aren't as good as what he is letting on.

Actually, Trump inherited a substantial amount of money from his family. He also benefited from loans from his dad, one of his earliest jobs, AND he was able to secure credit based on his family name.

Now, his wealth has grown since then, but in general it has grown less than the wealth of many other billionaires. More importantly, it has grown slower than the stock market. For all his wheeling and dealing, he would have been better off to take the money he had in the 1980s and stick it in the stock market. All his "work' has given him less money than he would have otherwise.

http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-vs-other-billionaires-2015-8

When Hillary left the White House she and her hubby have since then made over 240 million dollars in speaking fees, and has been involved in many shady deals with shady characters. The problem here is that not everything about Hillary and her dealings have been brought out in the open. The corporate media has seen to that. After all, she is their darling, and she will take care of them if she becomes President. Lots of chit goes on in politics that we the peasants never get to hear about, and surely never will. Hillary has Goldman-Sachs covering her butt, and we all should know about GS and their involvement in the 2008 banking fiasco.

You should quit with the attacks on Trump and start listening to what he has to say. Trump says that the system is rigged, and appears at this time that Trump wants to change it. Hillary doesn't appear to want to change anything, just keep the rigged system going. I would rather take my chances with Trump rather than with a proven liar and a crooked politician like Hillary. If the man wan to try and change the rigged system why do you want to keep knocking him? I don't get it.

taxme · August 20, 2016

Why don't you ask what's so important about tax returns to every GOP nominee for the last 40 some odd years?

Why do so many Canadians want Trump to show his tax returns anyway? It should be no sweat off of Canadians back if he does or does not. Rather than constantly posting nasty things about Trump and about accusations made against him all the time how about posting some nasty things about crooked and lying Hillary and what she has said and done and what she has been accused of.

Boy, this website must be full of liberals because they sure like to bash conservative Trump all the time.

cybercoma · August 20, 2016

Why do so many Canadians talk about the US election at all?

GostHacked · August 21, 2016

Why do so many Canadians talk about the US election at all?

Yeah true, we get reminders of this all the time, that us pesky Canadians don't matter while some go on about Canada all the time.

betsy · September 10, 2016

I saw news clips of Hillary on CTV news channel today - she walks slow, she moves slow. She doesn't have the pep.

I think there's some truth to the rumours.

?Impact · September 10, 2016

I saw clips of Donald - he walks like a spaz, he moves like a spaz, he talks like a spaz. He doesn't have the mental or emotional control. I think there's lots of truth to the rumours.

bush_cheney2004 · September 10, 2016

I saw clips of Donald - he walks like a spaz, he moves like a spaz, he talks like a spaz. He doesn't have the mental or emotional control. I think there's lots of truth to the rumours.

Is this an insult for Donald Trump.....or Jean Chretien, former prime minister of Canada ?

-TSS- · September 11, 2016

I said earlier that Hillary wont last a full term but it seems I was wrong as she clearly cant last even until the election.

BC_chick · September 11, 2016

Oh wow that looked really bad.

September 11, 2016

Is it possible that the Democrats are scared the D might actually get in, and are lining up a dream team to take it all when Hillary finally "admits" she is too unwell to go on?

Or is that up there with no moon landing?

BC_chick · September 11, 2016

What do you mean? They're faking her illness while searching for a better candidate?

I wonder what would happen if something happens to her. Will it be Kaine, Sanders (runner up) or an appointee from the Democrats that would take her place?

Not in a mood to google on this lazy Sunday morning.