DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 You can understand whatever you wish to understand... Don't let me stop you there. Personal freedom comes at a price. Even the term democracy is relative but I wouldn't attach it to Israel... Again...forget about Israel (try). Which Islamic country can you show me that has similar personal freedoms to the Zionist Entity? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Again...forget about Israel (try). Which Islamic country can you show me that has similar personal freedoms to the Zionist Entity? As I said to you already freedom has a price.... It is all relative
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 As I said to you already freedom has a price.... It is all relative I'll take that as a zero, as well. Do you feel there are too many personal freedoms in a country like Canada? Do you feel Canada should be more like Iran? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 I'll take that as a zero, as well. Do you feel there are too many personal freedoms in a country like Canada? Do you feel Canada should be more like Iran? No amount of twisting (going back and forth) will change my stance vis a vis what I said. Leave Canada out of this... There is more to Canada to be dragged into this for the sake of your beloved Israel....
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 No amount of twisting (going back and forth) will change my stance vis a vis what I said. Leave Canada out of this... There is more to Canada to be dragged into this for the sake of your beloved Israel.... I'll take that as a yes. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Defeat = You not finding another country with freedom of speech, etc, in the Middle East.There was another one but we shut it down in favour of a tyrant. Something the region is still recovering from. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 There was another one but we shut it down in favour of a tyrant. Something the region is still recovering from. Oh, you mean Mossadeq who was elected ruler by courting the Communist Tudeh Party. You know, the guys who tried to make Iran another SR in the USSR. The Cold War was a fact...and this was part of it. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 I'll take that as a yes. You don't know him. Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 You don't know him. I'm asking for an answer. You don't get the Socratic Method, do yah? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) There was another one but we shut it down in favour of a tyrant. Something the region is still recovering from. There was another one but we shut it down in favour of a tyrant. Something the region is still recovering from.Why would you want an oil rich country to have a democracy? It is easier to rob them off their oil when tyrrany prevails it....Fact is Mosadegh tried to nationalise the oil but that didn't go well with the he brits whose share would have been substantially reduced.... Edited June 14, 2016 by kactus
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Why would you want an oil rich country to have a democracy? It is easier to rob them off their oil when tyrrany prevails it.... Fact is Mosadegh tried to nationalise the oil but that didn't go well with the he brits whose share would have been substantially reduced.... Ironically for you, it was The Shah that made Iran rich beyond its wildest dreams re: good oil deals. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Ironically for you, it was The Shah that made Iran rich beyond its wildest dreams re: good oil deals. Irrelevant...it doesn't negate the fact that it was the western meddling in iran that didn't let the democracy flourish for the interest of oil....
kactus Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Imagine holding a referendum on nationalising oil. Oh that already happened under Dr Mossadegh
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Irrelevant...it doesn't negate the fact that it was the western meddling in iran that didn't let the democracy flourish for the interest of oil.... There was Soviet meddling to make the Western meddling happen...but history is not your strong suit. I'll correct you as needed. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Imagine holding a referendum on nationalising oil. Oh that already happened under Dr Mossadegh It was, unfortunately, not his equipment to steal. Plus, nobody in Iran knew squat about drilling oil without BP's (et al) help. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 I'm asking for an answer. You don't get the Socratic Method, do yah? Right, I've asked for answers too. There is some irony in this for sure. Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com
kactus Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 It was, unfortunately, not his equipment to steal. Plus, nobody in Iran knew squat about drilling oil without BP's (et al) help. Wrong! Iran had many engineers who knew a great deal more than your selective recollection. Go and learn history....
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Wrong! Iran had many engineers who knew a great deal more than your selective recollection. Go and learn history.... No...sorry. Iran learned to drill its own oil under The Shah. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Oh, you mean Mossadeq who was elected ruler by courting the Communist Tudeh Party. You know, the guys who tried to make Iran another SR in the USSR. The Cold War was a fact...and this was part of it.Bullshit. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 (edited) Bullshit. Sorry...that's the history. The Tudehs turned on him during the Coup and tried to take over Bolshevik style. Edited June 14, 2016 by DogOnPorch Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 BS A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
DogOnPorch Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 BS You can always check my work...teacher. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
kactus Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 Sorry...that's the history. The Tudehs turned on him during the Coup and tried to take over Bolshevik style. No...sorry. Iran learned to drill its own oil under The Shah. The more you carry on the more hideous this argument is becoming...
kactus Posted June 14, 2016 Report Posted June 14, 2016 You can always check my work...teacher. Time to revise your history on mossadegh....
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