GostHacked Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 GH stares around blankly.... So, is that a yes? Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 The Palestinians assassinated RFK... Well, a Palestinian did. I haven't seen convincing evidence of a larger plot. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 Maybe there is a strategic direction to all this, replacing one leader with a more reasonable one. Let's hope there is some thinking going on that will get the soldiers out of there. I don't see the Taliban as a big international problem right now. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 Maybe there is a strategic direction to all this, replacing one leader with a more reasonable one. Let's hope there is some thinking going on that will get the soldiers out of there. I don't see the Taliban as a big international problem right now. "I can explain it. I did it for my country." ---Sirhan Sirhan Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 The Palestinians also practice regicide. You have to try hard to get that one... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_I_of_Jordan#Assassination Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
SpankyMcFarland Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 "I can explain it. I did it for my country." ---Sirhan Sirhan You are going to have to do better than that to convince me. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) The Palestinians also practice regicide. You have to try hard to get that one... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_I_of_Jordan#Assassination Many nations do - or have done when kings mattered. Edited May 24, 2016 by SpankyMcFarland Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 You are going to have to do better than that to convince me. His own words....I really don't give a rat's rear whatcha think. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 Many nations do - or have done when kings mattered. Bang....right on the Temple Mount steps after prayer by one of the Mufti's many thugs. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
BC_chick Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 So if Obama, representing one of the nations at the negotiating table, was on a trip to .... lets say Canada, and a Taliban suicide bomber took him out on parliament hill, would that be OK? I mean what is fair for one should be fair for the other. Should it not? At this point, there is no 'fair' anymore. Wars are rarely nation against nation with clearly marked uniforms and stipulated rules of engagement. We already know that terrorists don't play 'fair' by western rules of engagement so the real question is whether or not western nations still bound by the same rules of law as nation against nation wars. I say no, but instead of an anything-goes attitude, I think it's time to clearly define 'war on terror' and create its own rules of engagement. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Charles Anthony Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 Folks, Stop trolling and stop your personal banter. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
The_Squid Posted May 24, 2016 Report Posted May 24, 2016 If there is a war and the leader of the opposition forces is an obstacle to a peaceful resolution, I can see blowing him up. Quote
Guest Posted May 25, 2016 Report Posted May 25, 2016 (edited) I see the Taliban in Afghanistan have elected a new target leader. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-36375975 Edited May 25, 2016 by bcsapper Quote
GostHacked Posted May 25, 2016 Report Posted May 25, 2016 Folks, Stop trolling and stop your personal banter. Which posts are you considering trolling? It would be nice to provide an example so as to show members what trolling is. That's the last I'll say on this matter here ... Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 25, 2016 Report Posted May 25, 2016 Which posts are you considering trolling? It would be nice to provide an example so as to show members what trolling is. That's the last I'll say on this matter here ... Hi GH - the examples were obvious, trust us on that. Charles hid them. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
PIK Posted May 25, 2016 Report Posted May 25, 2016 C.I.A = Keystone spys. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
Guest Posted May 25, 2016 Report Posted May 25, 2016 Spies. They've been keeping an eye on the pipeline have they? Well, good for them. Better safe than sorry, that's what I always say. Quote
Argus Posted May 26, 2016 Report Posted May 26, 2016 The USA has just revealed that they have assassinated the leader of the Taliban by an American drone in Pakistan: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/05/taliban-leader-killed-drone-strike-160521204020111.html The Taliban are currently involved in peace talks with the puppet government of Afghanistan to reach some kind of solution. The USA has decided to enter a sovereign nation (Pakistan) without permission, to assassinate a person who is considered to be the leader of a group who is in the middle of negotiating a resolution to a war that the USA started It sounds to me very much as though you're upset that the leader of the Taliban was killed. Are you sympathetic to the Taliban and their religious and social aims? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 26, 2016 Report Posted May 26, 2016 (edited) IAs for US sending drone strikes into Pakistan, it's an act of war and counter to THE most very basic and fundamental international law. Then again, the US is basically at de facto war with Pakistan anyways. The ISI, Bin Laden, habouring the Taliban and al-Qaeda, and now this? US drone strikes in Pakistan are done with the knowledge and assistance of the Pakistanis. The Pakistanis simply can't admit it to the public. Edited May 26, 2016 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Moonlight Graham Posted May 26, 2016 Report Posted May 26, 2016 US drone strikes in Pakistan are done with the knowledge and assistance of the Pakistanis. The Pakistanis simply can't admit it to the public. Do you have any evidence of this? Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
GostHacked Posted May 26, 2016 Report Posted May 26, 2016 Hi GH - the examples were obvious, trust us on that. Charles hid them. Forgive me if I don't trust your analysis. Quote
Argus Posted May 26, 2016 Report Posted May 26, 2016 Do you have any evidence of this? Who do you think is providing them with the target lists?! Do you really think the CIA has a lot of great sources among the fanatic, backward tribes of Pakistan's borders? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24649840 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Moonlight Graham Posted May 26, 2016 Report Posted May 26, 2016 Who do you think is providing them with the target lists?! Do you really think the CIA has a lot of great sources among the fanatic, backward tribes of Pakistan's borders? http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-24649840 Interesting, thanks for the link. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
kactus Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) ya ya... we could resurrect older threads for some fun but... that CIA coup that did establish the Shah, also set in place the framework for the eventual Iranian Revolution and the, as I said, taking out of the Shah of Iran and setting the Middle-East on a path towards radical Fundamentalist Islam. But I do relish your want to put that all off to just, "an early bunch of CIA cowboys"! . Absolutely right!"At the start of the confrontation, American political sympathy was forthcoming from the Truman Administration.[19] In particular, Mosaddegh was buoyed by the advice and counsel he was receiving from American Ambassador in Tehran, Henry F. Grady. However, eventually American decision-makers lost their patience, and by the time a Republican Administration came to office fears that communists were poised to overthrow the government became an all-consuming concern (these concerns were later dismissed as "paranoid" in retrospective commentary on the coup from US government officials). Shortly prior to the 1952 presidential election in the United States, the British government invited CIA officer Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., to London to propose collaboration on a secret plan to force Mosaddegh from office.[20] This would be the first of three "regime change" operations led by Allen Dulles (the other two being the successful CIA-instigated 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état and the failed Bay of Pigs Invasion of Cuba). Under the direction of Kermit Roosevelt, Jr., a senior Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer and grandson of former US President Theodore Roosevelt, the American CIA and British Secret Intelligence Service (SIS) funded and led a covert operation to depose Mosaddegh with the help of military forces disloyal to the democratically elected government. Referred to as Operation Ajax,[21] the plot hinged on orders signed by Mohammad Reza to dismiss Mosaddegh as prime minister and replace him with General Fazlollah Zahedi a choice agreed on by the British and Americans" Edited May 27, 2016 by kactus Quote
kactus Posted May 27, 2016 Report Posted May 27, 2016 (edited) It didn't 'establish the Shah'. The Shah had been on the throne since 1941...no gaps. What you can't accept is Iranians involved in an Iranian coup. Nonesense! Shah and Farah fled the country many times during his reign.... Edited May 27, 2016 by kactus Quote
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