America under President Trump

bush_cheney2004 · July 9, 2020

1 minute ago, Boges said:

In an earlier post I mentioned how Trump has contributed to the issues the US is facing now.

He has done the opposite of leading by example.

I also think that the absence of a National strategy on COVID is contributing to the problem.

That's just your bias....Trump has been leading by example for his base and supporters for a very long time....since 2016.

Many nations lack a "national strategy on COVID"....so what ?

The U.S. Constitution doesn't just disappear because of a pandemic.

Shady · July 9, 2020

35 minutes ago, Boges said:

Trump had an indoor rally in Tulsa where he thought he'd get 20,000 people.

He had a speech in South Dakota where 7,500 people were crammed in an outdoor theatre.

He Tweeted LIBERATE Minnesota, Virginia and Michigan in response to their COVID containment efforts.

He moved the Republican Convention to a different state because North Carolina had a mask order.

He's minimized the threat of the virus at every step.

He's lied that 99% of the cases are harmless.

He never wears a mask in public.

AND Yesterday he threatened to cut Education funding to states that don't open schools, regardless of their COVID situation.

Should I go on?

You shouldn't go on because you're being very dishonest. Yep, Trump shouldn't have had an indoor rally. But he had an outdoor rally after that.. Similar to the outdoor protests that everyone in the mainstream media championed. So what? Yes, he tweeted liberate, when those states were completely locked down. So what? Yes, they convention will be in another state, maybe, but it hasn't happened yet. So what? No he didn't minimize the virus at every step. But the mainstream media and Democrats definitely did, especially early on. Calling his travel ban racist, and telling people to go out and live their lives as normal, go to shows, go to restaurants, etc. No, 99% of cases are harmless in that people fully recover. He gets tested every day, I don't care if he never wears a mask. He's not spreading the virus to anyone. Yes, the American Academy of Pediatricians has also insisted that schools reopen in the fall. If you know anything about the science, children do not spread the virus, nor are the at risk of dying. In fact, the regular flu is much more dangerous to children than COVID. But again, you shouldn't go on because you dishonest and disingenuous.

Boges · July 9, 2020

Just now, bush_cheney2004 said:

Many nations lack a "national strategy on COVID"....so what ?

The U.S. Constitution doesn't just disappear because of a pandemic.

And because of this, the US is the only country in the Developed world facing a pandemic of this size.

Sure, blame the Governors too. Ron DeSantis is a MAGA guy isn't he?

Shady · July 9, 2020

6 minutes ago, Boges said:

I also think that the absence of a National strategy on COVID is contributing to the problem.

Canada doesn't have a national strategy. Each province and territory are evaluating things and making policies and adjustments as needed. This is just another attempt at Trump blame. We get it, you don't like Trump. Your obsessed.

bush_cheney2004 · July 9, 2020

1 minute ago, Boges said:

And because of this, the US is the only country in the Developed world facing a pandemic of this size.

Sure, blame the Governors too. Ron DeSantis is a MAGA guy isn't he?

False...many nations face the pandemic...where have you been ?

...but you are only concerned with Trump...because...

MUST...GET...TRUMP !!!

Boges · July 9, 2020

Just now, Shady said:

Similar to the outdoor protests that everyone in the mainstream media championed.

There was zero ability to Social Distance and no one was zero requirement to wear a mask.

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No he didn't minimize the virus at every step.

54 examples https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/the-fix/54-times-trump-downplayed-the-coronavirus/2020/03/05/790f5afb-4dda-48bf-abe1-b7d152d5138c_video.html

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So what? Yes, he tweeted liberate, when those states were completely locked down. So what? Yes, they convention will be in another state, maybe, but it hasn't happened yet.

As were many other places that have gotten a handle on the virus now. Unlike the US.

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No, 99% of cases are harmless in that people fully recover.

Cite the statistic that backs this up.

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If you know anything about the science, children do not spread the virus, nor are the at risk of dying. In fact, the regular flu is much more dangerous to children than COVID. But again, you shouldn't go on because you dishonest and disingenuous.

So why'd they close the school's down in the first place.

Teachers are at risk aren't they? I happen to agree that Schools should open. But precautions should be taken. Trump says the CDC precautions are unfeasable.

Boges · July 9, 2020

4 minutes ago, Shady said:

Canada doesn't have a national strategy. Each province and territory are evaluating things and making policies and adjustments as needed. This is just another attempt at Trump blame. We get it, you don't like Trump. Your obsessed.

Yeah, but it's tough to travel between the Provinces right now isn't it?

Canada has Universal Healthcare which means a lot of the medical needs are already provided for. Everyone CAN get a test if they need one and not pay.

Boges · July 9, 2020

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

False...many nations face the pandemic...where have you been ?

...but you are only concerned with Trump...because...

MUST...GET...TRUMP !!!

Well this is the Trump thread.

bush_cheney2004 · July 9, 2020

1 minute ago, Boges said:

Well this is the Trump thread.

So we are done hi-jacking this thread for COVID ?

...good.

Charles Anthony · July 9, 2020

Folks,

Please continue avoiding thread drift. Some posts were sent to this thread:

https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/39679-the-road-to-2020/

Charles Anthony · July 9, 2020

Some more posts were sent here:

https://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums/topic/40508-the-coronavirus/

Shady · July 9, 2020

1 hour ago, Boges said:

Yeah, but it's tough to travel between the Provinces right now isn't it?

Canada has Universal Healthcare which means a lot of the medical needs are already provided for. Everyone CAN get a test if they need one and not pay.

Yes, and it's also tough to travel between the states, depending on what state you're trying to get to. Trump has no authority to order states to open up, or close down, or anything in between. Universal health care is irrelevant.

BubberMiley · July 9, 2020

2 hours ago, Shady said:

No, 99% of cases are harmless in that people fully recover.

It must be humiliating to have to repeat stupid, irresponsible, dangerous things just because Trump said them, and to have to insist they are true, even though they can be easily proven totally wrong.

Glad I'm not in a cult. :lol:

https://doi.org/10.1093/brain/awaa240

bush_cheney2004 · July 9, 2020

58 minutes ago, Shady said:

....Universal health care is irrelevant.

Indeed.... UK, Belgium, Spain, Italy, France, and Sweden have universal health care and far more deaths per million.

Blame Trump....

Edited July 9, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

Shady · July 9, 2020

27 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

It must be humiliating to have to repeat stupid, irresponsible, dangerous things just because Trump said them, and to have to insist they are true, even though they can be easily proven totally wrong.

Glad I'm not in a cult.

https://doi.org/10.1093/brain/awaa240

Nope, it's perfectly accurate. Try again. Although I will admit that harmless is subjective.

Edited July 9, 2020 by Shady

BubberMiley · July 9, 2020

26 minutes ago, Shady said:

Nope, it's perfectly accurate. Try again. Although I will admit that harmless is subjective.

I already cited one risk of brain damage. There are many other risks, including heart and liver damage.

There is no reputable source that says it's harmless for 99% of the people who get it. You just have to believe that because to do otherwise would be disloyal, and cult members are never disloyal.

You really should shut up though rather than spread dangerous misinformation. It makes you look desperate and stupid.

Shady · July 9, 2020

24 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

I already cited one risk of brain damage. There are many other risks, including heart and liver damage.

There is no reputable source that says it's harmless for 99% of the people who get it. You just have to believe that because to do otherwise would be disloyal, and cult members are never disloyal.

You really should shut up though rather than spread dangerous misinformation. It makes you look desperate and stupid.

Complete nonsense. When you factor in asymptomatic cases, it’s easily in the high 90s.

BubberMiley · July 9, 2020

4 minutes ago, Shady said:

Complete nonsense. When you factor in asymptomatic cases, it’s easily in the high 90s.

It's hilarious how you pull figures out of your ass and expect people to take you seriously. Don't be an idiot and repeat irresponsible BS just because you are loyal to Putin/Trump.

Shady · July 9, 2020

1 hour ago, BubberMiley said:

It's hilarious how you pull figures out of your ass and expect people to take you seriously. Don't be an idiot and repeat irresponsible BS just because you are loyal to Putin/Trump.

The harmlessness or harmfulness really depends on age and health.

BubberMiley · July 9, 2020

3 minutes ago, Shady said:

The harmlessness or harmfulness really depends on age and health.

Tell that to the young Broadway star who had his legs cut off before he died. But I don't know what that has to do with the false claim that it's harmless for 99% of people who get it. You're just trying to change the subject because you couldn't find anyone reputable to back up that claim.

Neither could Trump.

Shady · July 9, 2020

22 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Tell that to the young Broadway star who had his legs cut off before he died. But I don't know what that has to do with the false claim that it's harmless for 99% of people who get it. You're just trying to change the subject because you couldn't find anyone reputable to back up that claim.

Neither could Trump.

The science doesn’t change because of a broadway star. But can you provide his complete medical history? Otherwise we don’t know what other health conditions he suffered from. Don’t be an idiot and repeat irresponsible BS.

BubberMiley · July 9, 2020

3 minutes ago, Shady said:

The science doesn’t change because of a broadway star. But can you provide his complete medical history? Otherwise we don’t know what other health conditions he suffered from. Don’t be an idiot and repeat irresponsible BS.

Nothing irresponsible about warning people that a virus is dangerous. Trumpy projection looks really dumb when you just try to use it automatically like that.

Edited July 9, 2020 by BubberMiley

Shady · July 9, 2020

2 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Nothing irresponsible about warning people that a virus is dangerous. Trumpy projection looks really dumb when you just try to use it automatically like that.

The virus is dangerous to certain people. To healthy people under a certain age, it’s not. Those are facts. That is the science.

taxme · July 9, 2020

On 7/7/2020 at 10:01 AM, WestCanMan said:

Of all the 'sinners' in covidland, Trump should be the least of your concerns.

1) The WHO gave the entire world the absolute worst advice possible, right at the critical beginning phase when containment was still possible to some extent. The WHO killed a full half of the people who died from covid. Maybe more.

2) Our PM was so stupid that he couldn't see through the WHO's bad advice, like Trump did, so our PM took no direct and effective action against covid for two months.

3) The worst advice in the world has been given out by Dems, and only dems. "Ride the over-crowded NYC subway, come hang out in huge groups in Chinatown, let's put infected people back into care homes, don't wear masks, etc. And then there was the instant, all-out frenzy against HCQ, which seems even more conspiratorial now than it did when they first went into panic mode to discredit the drug in every way, shape and form possible. IF TRUMP HAD BEEN THE ONES TO SAY ANY OF THOSE COLOSSALLY STUPID THINGS HE'D BE HANGING ON A CROSS AS WE SPEAK.

Your deceitful shtick is exposed for what it truly is Boges. All along, the Dems and the Liberals have been the politicians giving the worst advice and doing the dumbest things. Period. Your crusade to misinform is pathetic and you should be ashamed of yourself.

1. Lucky for Americans, President Trump is getting rid of and out of WHO, that Chinese communist supporting outfit. I guess this must mean that now the countries that still support WHO will have to pay more tax dollars to keep them up and running, eh? Canada will be one of them for sure. Trudeau loves and admires Chinese communism.

2. Trudeau is stupid just because he is stupid. Trudeau should be called ChiefKnowNothingAtAll. A great name for the buffoon.

3. Nobody knows what the hell they are all talking about anymore when it comes to this virus bull shit. The smart thing for all we the people to be doing now is just say the hell with it all and go out there and carry on with the old normal life we use to live before this false flag virus came along. We cannot allow ourselves to carry on like this anymore. No one is happy with all of these lock downs, mask wearings, and keeping ones distance. We are not living and enjoying life anymore. We are now just existing. We must stop listening to these doom and gloom politicians, the media, the so called health experts, and the hospital administrators who are constantly jacking up the figures. All those mentioned above want to do is to keep the covidiots into a state of constant fear and panic. It's too their advantage to do so. They are all making bundles of money from it all.

4. Everyone pushing this false flag hoax should be ashamed of themselves for the many crimes against humanity that they have committed. This Chain virus has nothing on what this hoax has done to the health and well being of millions of people around the world. It's time to end this farce once and for all.

taxme · July 9, 2020

45 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Tell that to the young Broadway star who had his legs cut off before he died. But I don't know what that has to do with the false claim that it's harmless for 99% of people who get it. You're just trying to change the subject because you couldn't find anyone reputable to back up that claim.

Neither could Trump.

I bet that they will try and say that he died from the hoax virus. Everybody dying today are pretty much all dying from this hoax of a virus. And the joke of this hoax virus will go on until those covidiots out there say enough already. Phuk the virus, and let's all start to get back to the good old normal days. Works well for me.