America under President Trump

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, Rue said:

..and I believ every human can change things each tinecwevdo something positive or when  we choose to take responsibility for the consequences of the choices we make.

If you choose to blindly delegate that gift of free choice away that is your decision not mine.

 

Quite to the contrary...I have more "free choice" than you do.    By your own admission, my president has great impact on your life...in a foreign country...."sad".

 

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This blind subservience to Trump you worship is just another religion to me. It's just another screaming dictator with a a bad haircut and I do not need to wait to see people die on masse to challenge his hateful rhetoric precisely because as a classic conservative I believe the will 9f humanity begins and ends with each of us how wec santifybtye meaning of life not what Trump says or does.

 

I will always worship American power, no matter how it is embodied.  

...and you will always have to worry about what that American power will do.

Edited December 28, 2019 by bush_cheney2004

[Cannucklehead]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Quite to the contrary...I have more "free choice" than you do.    By your own admission, my president has great impact on your life...."sad".

 

 

I will always worship American power, no matter how it is embodied.  

...and you will always have to worry about what that American power will do.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/studies/human-freedom-index-2019

The jurisdictions that took the top 10 places, in order, were New Zealand, Switzerland, Hong Kong, Canada, Australia, Denmark and Luxembourg (tied in 6th place), Finland and Germany (tied in 8th place), and Ireland. Selected countries rank as follows: Sweden (11), United Kingdom (14), United States (15), Taiwan (19), Japan (25), South Korea (27), Chile (28), France (33), South Africa (64), Argentina (77), Mexico (92), India (94), Brazil (109), Russia (114), Turkey (122), Saudi Arabia (149), Iran (154), Egypt (157), Venezuela (161), and Syria (162).

you were saying?

oh wait, i guess the lack of freedom for coloured people in america are what's dragging you down?  

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Cannucklehead said:

you were saying?

 

oh wait, i guess the lack of freedom for coloured people in america are what's dragging you down?  

 

"coloured people" ?     LOL 

[Rue]

On 12/27/2019 at 4:06 PM, Shady said:

LOL, so anyone who's chauviinistic is Hitler-like?  Come'on man.  There's nothing wrong with populism to a certain point.  And all politicians are participate in demogoguery in some way.    Bringing up Hitler is not a winning argument, and never a good idea, unless someone is actually rounding up millions of people and killing them while at the same time invading numerous countries for conquest.  

Trump has deliberately appealed to hatred and fear through hateful, divisive rhetoric to incite his followers.  That makes what he does reprehensible. He uses the same tactics Hitlerc and Mussolini did. Y in response to me said, well Hitler and Trump both drink water so that makes them the same?  No, but the fact they both  lap up the water from the same toilet bowl does.

I never said Trump is Hitler. I said he uses some of his tactics and h8s legacy has been one of speading anger and hatred like Hitler did. 

If you find Trump to be a humanitarian who inspires people and unifies them good for you.

I find him to be a low level fascist. So do many others.

You pretty him up all you want.

Edited December 28, 2019 by Rue

[Rue]

19 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

"coloured people" ?     LOL 

He means Latinos, you know caramels, also called Indo Pakistani Arab Sri Lankan Nigerian Central South American African Asian female gay trans gendered Democrat journalists. You see them on CNN. Turn from Fox.

Edited December 29, 2019 by Rue

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, Rue said:

He means Latinos, you know caramels, also called Indo Palusrani Sri Lankan Nigerian Central South American African Asian female gay trans gendered Democrat journalists. You see them on CNN. Turn from Fox.

 

So it would be OK for Trump to say "coloured people" ?    How about "visible minority" ?

...you see that a lot on CBC.

[Cannucklehead]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

So it would be OK for Trump to say "coloured people" ?    How about "visible minority" ?

...you see that a lot on CBC.

Means non white.  So in america yeah, minority.  Not so visible though from the ivory towers though.  

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Means non white.  So in america yeah, minority.  Not so visible though from the ivory towers though.  

 

And accordingly, considered to be a very racist term.    Trump won't be using your labels.

[Cannucklehead]

11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

And accordingly, considered to be a very racist term.    Trump won't be using your labels.

Yeah he prefers a more direct approach.  

[Rue]

2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

So it would be OK for Trump to say "coloured people" ?    How about "visible minority" ?

...you see that a lot on CBC.

Hey you better ask my hero the other Donald....Cherry.

[Yzermandius19]

On 12/28/2019 at 7:04 PM, Rue said:

Hey you better ask my hero the other Donald....Cherry.

Donald Trump is a lot more like Don Cherry than he's like Adolf Hitler.

Edited December 30, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[taxme]

On 12/28/2019 at 12:52 PM, Rue said:

You are a white Christian identity supremacist as stated in your previous posts. Your opinions are tainted by your kkk white Christian Aryan Brotherhood wannabee beliefs. You support Trump because you think he believes in what you do.

I challenged Trudeau and Trump for misusing  their powers using the same principle.

You are at a level of discourse Trump incites.

 

I have always said that I am a white patriotic nationalist conservative. I do not believe that I have ever called or considered myself to be a white Christian supremacist. I would ask you as to where I have ever said those three words you mentioned above verbatim. But knowing you, you will always run to the Israeli desert hills when asked to produce anything. You cannot win with me. I am too politically incorrect, for you, and I do not kiss the butt of that sacred cow called political correctness like you seem to do all the time. But hey, that is just you, right? 

You are one that likes to take everything I say out of context to try and support your Zonist lying accusations about me being a KKK white supremacist Nazi. I am amazed as to how you keep going on and on with those lies and accusations when you know that they are all just lies and accusations. But hey, that is just you, eh? 

I support Trump for many things. One is that Trump always says it like it is, unlike you, who has to make up lies and accusations to try and make it appear as though you know something when it appears to me that you are one who knows very little at all. Just saying.  

[Rue]

34 minutes ago, taxme said:

I have always said that I am a white patriotic nationalist conservative. I do not believe that I have ever called or considered myself to be a white Christian supremacist. I would ask you as to where I have ever said those three words you mentioned above verbatim. But knowing you, you will always run to the Israeli desert hills when asked to produce anything. You cannot win with me. I am too politically incorrect, for you, and I do not kiss the butt of that sacred cow called political correctness like you seem to do all the time. But hey, that is just you, right? 

You are one that likes to take everything I say out of context to try and support your Zonist lying accusations about me being a KKK white supremacist Nazi. I am amazed as to how you keep going on and on with those lies and accusations when you know that they are all just lies and accusations. But hey, that is just you, eh? 

I support Trump for many things. One is that Trump always says it like it is, unlike you, who has to make up lies and accusations to try and make it appear as though you know something when it appears to me that you are one who knows very little at all. Just saying.  

What you are is evidenced in your past words you hide with the above description and the bottom line is you are too cowardly to state what you stand for It has nothing to do with being politically correct and everything to do with you not having the intellectual integrity and honesty to admit what you stand for. You've already exposed your bigotry with your own words and responses. You fool no one and it doesn't really matter other than you've been called out and challenged and have zero credibility when it comes to posing as a victim on this forum. You are called out for  vile bigoted beliefs. You are so pathetic in belief you once embraced a schizophrenic called Brother Nathaniel on this forum who is actually a self hating delusional Jewish person who  you didn't even realize was a Jew nor that the hood he wears is not even a KKK hood and you aee so devoid of intellect you did not properly look up  his mental illness and biography before you began spouting his beliefs and advocating them thinking they sounded KKK. Pathetic. As for your support of Trump many people support him. You support him because you think he hates minorities and you are so devoid again in credibility you made noises he was anti Zionist when he may be many things but far from that.

Bottom line is I challenge you for your words. You want to whine about it whine but you are exactly the kind of hateful soul he attracts with his rhetoric and why I challenge Trump and state he has some dangerous traits that attract flies to shit.

Edited December 30, 2019 by Rue

[Rue]

8 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Donald Trump is a lot more like Don Cherry than he's like Adolf Hitler.

I am glad you think so. I do know a lot of you Trump supporters try pose him as a harmless Cherry like figure not realizing the difference. If Trump was simply politically incorrect no one would care. Its far more problematic then that.  I do not recall Cherry ever in all the years he was in the media insult the armed forces as Trump has let alone deliberately attack people in the mean spirited manner Trump has let alone speak of women the way Trump does. Some of what you say may be true but Trump is no Cherry. He did  not come by his trade honestly  like Cherry did. He's no working man. He is an elitist.  Anyways its neither here nor there. You like him and can see no wrong, I see him as a hateful flawed man who embraces fascists like himself, i.e., Kim, Erdogan and Putin. He's not my cup of American tea and I tell you this, I do not get for example Bush Chaney posing as a patriotic American worshipping power Trump has as she said. He's the very despot his country was created to rebel against and the irony is many of you support him like blind followers of a corrupt King or Cult leader or fascist tin pot dictator or as a celebrity as we have Trudeau in Canada.

I think Nixon's Watergate ended any desire of anyone decent in the US running in politics and has sullied the profession to the point no one with any integrity will get involved in politics and that is sad. It is sad that on this planet we have the leaders we do have with some of you afraid to question their bad behaviour because of partisan biases and the very behaviour you will criticize if it comes from a Democrat. Its vile behaviour whether it comes from Clinton, Biden, Trump, Trudeau and some of you create a double standard that vile behaviour becomes acceptable if its with Trump. His behaviour is reprehensible and the damage he is doing the US reputation will last for years to come.

Edited December 30, 2019 by Rue

[Yzermandius19]

16 minutes ago, Rue said:

I am glad you think so. I do know a lot of you Trump supporters try pose him as a harmless Cherry like figure not realizing the difference.

There is little difference. You calling Trump a fascist because you don't like him doesn't change that, some people call Cherry a fascist too. Trump does not hate the troops, he just hates John McCain. You not liking him doesn't mean he's hurting America, that's just your interpretation which is clearly clouded by Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Edited December 30, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[bush_cheney2004]

20 minutes ago, Rue said:

....I think Nixon's Watergate ended any desire of anyone decent in the US running in politics and has sullied the profession to the point no one with any integrity will get involved in politics and that is sad. It is sad that on this planet we have the leaders we do have with some of you afraid to question their bad behaviour because of partisan biases and the very behaviour you will criticize if it comes from a Democrat. Its vile behaviour whether it comes from Clinton, Biden, Trump, Trudeau and some of you create a double standard that vile behaviour becomes acceptable if its with Trump. His behaviour is reprehensible and the damage he is doing the US reputation will last for years to come.

 

There's your trouble....worrying about American power in the hands of politicians that you have no respect for and no influence on their rise to political office, regardless of party or personal demeanor.   The US reputation remains that of a global superpower...being "loved" the world over is a delusional Canadian value.

Trump is just another U.S. president...get over it.

[Yzermandius19]

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The US reputation remains that of a global superpower...being "loved" the world over is a delusional Canadian value.

Trump is just another U.S. president...get over it.

bush_cheney knows. Sucking up to the world is a delusional Canadian value, that garners zero respect whatsoever, being a global superpower on the other hand does garner that respect.

[WestCanMan]

46 minutes ago, Rue said:

I am glad you think so. I do know a lot of you Trump supporters try pose him as a harmless Cherry like figure not realizing the difference. If Trump was simply politically incorrect no one would care. Its far more problematic then that.  I do not recall Cherry ever in all the years he was in the media insult the armed forces as Trump has let alone deliberately attack people in the mean spirited manner Trump has let alone speak of women the way Trump does. Some of what you say may be true but Trump is no Cherry. He did  not come by his trade honestly  like Cherry did. He's no working man. He is an elitist.  Anyways its neither here nor there. You like him and can see no wrong, I see him as a hateful flawed man who embraces fascists like himself, i.e., Kim, Erdogan and Putin. He's not my cup of American tea and I tell you this, I do not get for example Bush Chaney posing as a patriotic American worshipping power Trump has as she said. He's the very despot his country was created to rebel against and the irony is many of you support him like blind followers of a corrupt King or Cult leader or fascist tin pot dictator or as a celebrity as we have Trudeau in Canada.

I think Nixon's Watergate ended any desire of anyone decent in the US running in politics and has sullied the profession to the point no one with any integrity will get involved in politics and that is sad. It is sad that on this planet we have the leaders we do have with some of you afraid to question their bad behaviour because of partisan biases and the very behaviour you will criticize if it comes from a Democrat. Its vile behaviour whether it comes from Clinton, Biden, Trump, Trudeau and some of you create a double standard that vile behaviour becomes acceptable if its with Trump. His behaviour is reprehensible and the damage he is doing the US reputation will last for years to come.

In all honesty you're sounding quite paranoid Rue. 

Do you have some actual examples of Trump's racism? I've seen the accusation many times but no one ever has actual examples of racist comments or behaviour. 

[Cannucklehead]

Ask Curiel.  But his country is full of rapists! 

Well at least its not a shithole.    

[Shady]

On 12/28/2019 at 4:33 PM, Rue said:

Trump has deliberately appealed to hatred and fear through hateful, divisive rhetoric to incite his followers.  That makes what he does reprehensible. He uses the same tactics Hitlerc and Mussolini did. Y in response to me said, well Hitler and Trump both drink water so that makes them the same?  No, but the fact they both  lap up the water from the same toilet bowl does.

I never said Trump is Hitler. I said he uses some of his tactics and h8s legacy has been one of speading anger and hatred like Hitler did. 

If you find Trump to be a humanitarian who inspires people and unifies them good for you.

I find him to be a low level fascist. So do many others.

You pretty him up all you want.

Obama and Trudeau have used the same tactics.  In many cases they help spread anger and hatred.  For example, if you didn’t like Obama’s health care plan, then you wanted people to die.   He and other Democrats actually accused people of that.  They ran political ads claiming Mitt Romney killed some woman’s husband. You don’t think that message led to hate and anger?  Where were you then?  Democrats are constantly asserting that anytime budget cuts are mentioned, Republicans want people to starve, the air and water to be poisoned, etc.  You don’t think that leads to anger and hate?  You gotta be more consistent if you’re gonna preach like that.  Otherwise it seems too selective.

[Yzermandius19]

People just need to stop resorting to knee jerk comparison to Hitler of politicians they don't like. Regardless of their politics. If you are pretending someone like Trump is Hitler based on criteria that applies to all kinds of politicians, then every politician is Hitler, and that is just a preposterous assertion. Resorting to Godwin's Law is the kind of argument of someone reacting emotionally and not thinking things through.

Just because Hitler did something doesn't mean that everyone else who did something that is similar is Hitler or is acting like Hitler. A politician acting like a politician isn't being Hitler, just because Hitler acted like a politician too.

Edited December 31, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Shady]

33 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

People just need to stop resorting to knee jerk comparison to Hitler of politicians they don't like. Regardless of their politics. If you are pretending someone like Trump is Hitler based on criteria that applies to all kinds of politicians, then every politician is Hitler, and that is just a preposterous assertion. Resorting to Godwin's Law is the kind of argument of someone reacting emotionally and not thinking things through.

Just because Hitler did something doesn't mean that everyone else who did something that is similar is Hitler or is acting like Hitler. A politician acting like a politician isn't being Hitler, just because Hitler acted like a politician too.

Trump Derangement Syndrome so messes with people’s minds that they can’t seem to help themselves or see how absurd and ridiculous they look.

[taxme]

On 12/28/2019 at 12:58 PM, Cannucklehead said:

I hope you enjoy paying the bill for "Mexico's wall" 

Trump may have been elected president (like I said, may) but he hasn't acted like one since he took office.  

How am I going to pay for the Mexican wall?  

Trump was elected as the President of the USA. No "may" here at all. Your Prime mistake of Canada has not acted much like a leader at all. Mr. Dressup acts more like a buffoon than a real leader. I will take Trump any day over that fool of a PM of yours because Trump is a real and true country leader.  

[taxme]

10 hours ago, Rue said:

What you are is evidenced in your past words you hide with the above description and the bottom line is you are too cowardly to state what you stand for It has nothing to do with being politically correct and everything to do with you not having the intellectual integrity and honesty to admit what you stand for. You've already exposed your bigotry with your own words and responses. You fool no one and it doesn't really matter other than you've been called out and challenged and have zero credibility when it comes to posing as a victim on this forum. You are called out for  vile bigoted beliefs. You are so pathetic in belief you once embraced a schizophrenic called Brother Nathaniel on this forum who is actually a self hating delusional Jewish person who  you didn't even realize was a Jew nor that the hood he wears is not even a KKK hood and you aee so devoid of intellect you did not properly look up  his mental illness and biography before you began spouting his beliefs and advocating them thinking they sounded KKK. Pathetic. As for your support of Trump many people support him. You support him because you think he hates minorities and you are so devoid again in credibility you made noises he was anti Zionist when he may be many things but far from that.

Bottom line is I challenge you for your words. You want to whine about it whine but you are exactly the kind of hateful soul he attracts with his rhetoric and why I challenge Trump and state he has some dangerous traits that attract flies to shit.

Hey, 

[taxme]

10 hours ago, Rue said:

What you are is evidenced in your past words you hide with the above description and the bottom line is you are too cowardly to state what you stand for It has nothing to do with being politically correct and everything to do with you not having the intellectual integrity and honesty to admit what you stand for. You've already exposed your bigotry with your own words and responses. You fool no one and it doesn't really matter other than you've been called out and challenged and have zero credibility when it comes to posing as a victim on this forum. You are called out for  vile bigoted beliefs. You are so pathetic in belief you once embraced a schizophrenic called Brother Nathaniel on this forum who is actually a self hating delusional Jewish person who  you didn't even realize was a Jew nor that the hood he wears is not even a KKK hood and you aee so devoid of intellect you did not properly look up  his mental illness and biography before you began spouting his beliefs and advocating them thinking they sounded KKK. Pathetic. As for your support of Trump many people support him. You support him because you think he hates minorities and you are so devoid again in credibility you made noises he was anti Zionist when he may be many things but far from that.

Bottom line is I challenge you for your words. You want to whine about it whine but you are exactly the kind of hateful soul he attracts with his rhetoric and why I challenge Trump and state he has some dangerous traits that attract flies to shit.

Nice try loser boy. Still cannot produce anything that I have asked of you, eh? I guess that it is quite obvious that you have nothing to produce, eh? All talk, no action, eh? You accuse me of appearing to act and talk like a white supremacist then therefore, according to your warped logic, I must be a white supremacist. Well then, I can say the same dam thing about you and that you appear to act and talk like a Zionist, so therefore I can only assume that you must be a Zionist supremacist. Touche.  

I have watched a few videos of Bro Nathaniel, and the guy seems to know a lot about what he is talking about. He does not come across as a guy with mental issues. Of course the Bro will be portrayed as pretty much a nut job, but everyone is called a nut job when they try to expose the real Klan. But if one listens to what he has to say closely enough, the Bro does bring up some very good interesting points. So, who do you listen too or what books do you read? The Communist Manifesto by chance?  Just asking. 

I really have to start questioning your sanity. You really do like making up fake and phony stories, don't you? So just where have I ever said that Trump was anti-Zionist? Come on, stop running and give me something verbatim this time will you? I will say this about you? You sure are great at taking things said out of context. When you accuse someone of something but then you cannot back it up, then you have already shown to me that your credibility is shot with me. Poor pathetic you. I support Trump and I am very certain that Trump does not hate anybody. But you appear to hate anyone whom you disagree with just from my observations of you. I thank God that he is nowhere near someone like you. Trump has class. 

Bottom line is that you should just go away. Works for me.