Omni Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: She is behaving like Hillary, in my opinion...except she's not running for political office. She doesn't have to run for political office, daddy already gave her one. 2 Quote
dialamah Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Same reason that Canada uses while selling $15 billion in arms to the Saudis. I believe I've already acknowledged that Canada is no better in this regard. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Omni said: She doesn't have to run for political office, daddy already gave her one. No worries, I don't approve of any deals with Saudi Arabia. Perhaps Ivanka did at one time, as well...re approval. But, there's an old saying that still holds true after a fashion... There are no millionaire Communists. Once one sees the elephant...how one reacts is for the feet to decide. But then, unlike the thought police, I fancy myself a real libertarian. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
dialamah Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 10 minutes ago, Omni said: She doesn't have to run for political office, daddy already gave her one. How many political offices has Jared been given? Can you imagine if Obama had given positions to his wife, or other family members? Or if Hillary had been elected and placed her daughter in positions of power. But no problem if it's Trump, eh? Quote
Omni Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: No worries, I don't approve of any deals with Saudi Arabia. Perhaps Ivanka did at one time, as well...re approval. But, there's an old saying that still holds true after a fashion... There are no millionaire Communists. Once one sees the elephant...how one reacts is for the feet to decide. But then, unlike the thought police, I fancy myself a real libertarian. Oh yeah but how about all those "jobs, jobs, jobs"? 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, dialamah said: I believe I've already acknowledged that Canada is no better in this regard. Still doesn't matter...."good or bad" is meaningless in such international interests. The U.S. has lots more to consider in the region than does Canada, which is not a major ME player. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 Just now, Omni said: Oh yeah but how about all those "jobs, jobs, jobs"? Self employed, thanks. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, dialamah said: How many political offices has Jared been given? Can you imagine if Obama had given positions to his wife, or other family members? Or if Hillary had been elected and placed her daughter in positions of power. But no problem if it's Trump, eh? Yes, and Michelle could likely have brought some meaningful effort to a position. And yes, it is rather stunning the nepotism Trump seems to get away with without so much as a peep. (not to mention the flip flops, racism, xenophobia...and you know all the rest) 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Omni said: Yes, and Michelle could likely have brought some meaningful effort to a position. And yes, it is rather stunning the nepotism Trump seems to get away with without so much as a peep. (not to mention the flip flops, racism, xenophobia...and you know all the rest) There's always Pence. Enjoy President Trump...at least as much as I enjoy no Hillary. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: There's always Pence. Enjoy President Trump...at least as much as I enjoy no Hillary. Apparently Notre Dame students don'e enjoy your Mr. Pence much either. 1 Quote
DogOnPorch Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 Whatever shall I do?? Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: Like when Obama received the Nobel "peace prize", mere days after being elected. You want to talk about deserve? Find something useful to criticize. Obama didn't deserve his either. But I don't think it was given to him to flatter him. It was given to him because the European progressives were giddy at having a nice Black progressive intellectual taking over in the states from that mean, nasty, dumb old George Bush. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 1 hour ago, DogOnPorch said: (drum roll, a bugle plays "Hail to the Chief") Children: We are the mediocre Presidents. To be fair, there hasn't been anything else since Kennedy. Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush1, Clinton, Bush2, Obama and now Trump - though I think Trump would fail at even attaining mediocre status. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
blackbird Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Argus said: Of course they know about it. But they're in a quandary. First, how do you tell religious people not to propagate their religion, not to encourage others to take it up, not to teach it or export it? Particularly when there are so many US missionaries abroad? Combine that with them being major oil exporters, and having major influence throughout the Muslim world, and the amount of contracts they give out to American corporations, and that they cooperate (somewhat) with the US in providing information on their enemies. I think if SA was supporting terrorism to the extent you claim, the U.S. would know about it and there would be major friction between the U.S. and SA. Since that is not happening, I doubt SA is supporting Al Qaeda and terrorism to any significant degree. But like any country in the ME, there are probably some people in SA who fund terrorism. Perhaps this is without the SA government's knowledge. However, if SA was a major supporter of terrorism, as you say, I think the U.S. would be doing something about it. The U.S. has spent perhaps trillions of dollars on the war on terrorism so I don't think it would work politically if SA was officially supporting terrorist groups. It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Also, I don't see SA oil being a major influence with the U.S. The U.S. gets a lot of oil from it's own wells, Venezuala, Canada, and possibly other places. I think Newfoundland even has half a dozen or so ocean drilling rigs. There are lots of alternatives to get oil for the U.S. Edited May 21, 2017 by blackbird Quote
Omni Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 I wonder if Trump will fire Robert Mueller when he gets back. He does have the authority, and the investigation goes on. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 2 hours ago, dialamah said: They 'don't know about it' because SA has oil and SA is buying billions of dollars of arms. What more reason would they need for being 'deaf, dumb and blind'? It's all about what are the most strategic alliances for the U.S. to have. Contrary to what SJWs think, the U.S. has to act in it's own best interest in the world. That means weighing the good against the bad that having SA as an ally would mean. We don't see the whole picture sitting here on our computers, but there are lots of things to consider. Quote
eyeball Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 5 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Basically putting these Saudi MF-ers on notice. By sucking their dicks or kissing their asses? 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hal 9000 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: By sucking their dicks or kissing their asses? Is this allowed? Wow! Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
eyeball Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 4 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Could Trump have said anything at all to make you approve of it? Speaking for myself, Trump could have said no to the arms deal. 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Hal 9000 said: Is this allowed? Wow! They didn't seem to object when Bush tried to stick his tongue down their throat. 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hal 9000 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Speaking for myself, Trump could have said no to the arms deal. Why would he do that? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
eyeball Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 Go ask DOP, I bet he knows even if he's loath to dwell on it. 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hal 9000 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: Go ask DOP, I bet he knows even if he's loath to dwell on it. I want to know your opinion on why you don't think he should've made a deal with Saudi Arabia. You do have an opinion...Right? Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
eyeball Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: I want to know your opinion on why you don't think he should've made a deal with Saudi Arabia. You do have an opinion...Right? Bullshit you want my opinion on this issue or you would have paid attention the last 50 times I gave it. Edited May 21, 2017 by eyeball 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hal 9000 Posted May 21, 2017 Report Posted May 21, 2017 ^^Yeah, that's what I thought! I guess we'll just have to wait until Maddow tells you why you should be against it. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
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