DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Don't worry...Canada will save Europe from the Russians. With our Super Hornets! Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Argus Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: I'd say that is Europe's problem. Decades of prostrating itself before Islam has turned them into defenseless sheep. Don't look to me to save Paris. The US didn't attack the Germans because they were fond of Europeans, you know. They didn't want to wait until the Germans owned the whole world and then turned their attentions on the Americans. Russia is easily defeatable through ordinary military means now if the west properly funds its military. Russia that includes all of Europe is not. And then there's the business and financial interests involved, etc. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
DogOnPorch Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, Argus said: The US didn't attack the Germans because they were fond of Europeans, you know. They didn't want to wait until the Germans owned the whole world and then turned their attentions on the Americans. Russia is easily defeatable through ordinary military means now if the west properly funds its military. Russia that includes all of Europe is not. And then there's the business and financial interests involved, etc. So your claim is that Russia wants to take over the world? They have to tow their carriers... Islam, however, is spreading like the pox. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, Argus said: ...Russia is easily defeatable through ordinary military means now if the west properly funds its military. Russia that includes all of Europe is not. And then there's the business and financial interests involved, etc. More code words that mean...let the Americans pay to defend Europe, because Europe (and Canada) won't pay. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 Trump is conspicuous by his lack of tweets today. He must have lawyered up eh? Quote
Boges Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Omni said: Trump is conspicuous by his lack of tweets today. He must have lawyered up eh? Except when he said at a public speaking engagement that no politician in history had been treated worse. This comes as a relief to JFK and Lincoln. Quote
Omni Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, Boges said: Except when he said at a public speaking engagement that no politician in history had been treated worse. This comes as a relief to JFK and Lincoln. His little self pitying screed in front of, of all people USCG grads, has to be yet a new low even for Trump. I hope his "bone spurs" were flaring up "bigly" as he spoke. Quote
OftenWrong Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 7 hours ago, kimmy said: Given Russia's cozy relationship with Syria and Iran, I doubt Israel shares your confidence that this information won't end up in the hands of their enemies. In a statement emailed to The New York Times, Ron Dermer, the Israeli ambassador to the United States, reaffirmed that the two countries would maintain a close counterterrorism relationship. “Israel has full confidence in our intelligence-sharing relationship with the United States and looks forward to deepening that relationship in the years ahead under President Trump,” Mr. Dermer said. Quote
OftenWrong Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 8 hours ago, Wilber said: How nice of Vlad, I'm sure Israelis will be comforted. I perused some Israeli national news sites, none of them mention this event. One headline shows "Trump under fire? Putin to the rescue!" http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/229790 The article explains- "Russian president Putin says President Trump did not transfer any classified info to Russia and offered transcript of meeting to Congress. Putin said that he didn't yet want to judge President Trump's functioning as president and he would only do this when Trump was allowed to do his job properly." Accompanied by smiling photos of Putin and Trump. There is no negative publicity. President Trump will meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu on Friday. That meeting will be very telling as to the attitude surrounding this event. We are being led to believe these events are unconstitutional/ illegal etc. but it seems that this is highly misleading. If there should be an investigation, it should be into who is behind this intense smear campaign that makes the US look like it is verging on the bring of disaster. It is in itself dangerous. Quote
taxme Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Omni said: Excuse? Threat? ...I never make either. Just didn't want to bore you with facts. But to start I can tell you some of the biggest roundabouts with some of the wildest traffic you will ever face are in Moscow. and of course many of the drivers in Lada's are pissed on wodka. You must be careful. So, nothing to say about politics in Russia, eh? All you know about Russia and Putin than is about Russian roundabouts. Ya, I saw those on the internet too. Are you sure that you don't get pizzed on wodka a lot yourself? Just asking? Quote
Guest Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 13 minutes ago, taxme said: So, nothing to say about politics in Russia, eh? All you know about Russia and Putin than is about Russian roundabouts. Ya, I saw those on the internet too. Are you sure that you don't get pizzed on wodka a lot yourself? Just asking? I have to say I thought Putin's recent comments were hilarious. Talk about taking the piss. He probably sleeps better now than he has done for many a year, knowing the type of buffoon he is up against. Some time ago I remarked on here that "This election just keeps on giving". I had no idea! Quote
Wilber Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, OftenWrong said: I perused some Israeli national news sites, none of them mention this event. One headline shows "Trump under fire? Putin to the rescue!" http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/229790 The article explains- "Russian president Putin says President Trump did not transfer any classified info to Russia and offered transcript of meeting to Congress. Putin said that he didn't yet want to judge President Trump's functioning as president and he would only do this when Trump was allowed to do his job properly." Accompanied by smiling photos of Putin and Trump. There is no negative publicity. President Trump will meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu on Friday. That meeting will be very telling as to the attitude surrounding this event. We are being led to believe these events are unconstitutional/ illegal etc. but it seems that this is highly misleading. If there should be an investigation, it should be into who is behind this intense smear campaign that makes the US look like it is verging on the bring of disaster. It is in itself dangerous. So the Russians have a transcript to the meaning but the Whitehouse doesn't? Were the Ruskies wearing wires? Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Argus Posted May 17, 2017 Report Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) So Rod Rosenstein (AG Sessions having recused himself from involvement in the trump investigation) has appointed a special counsel - ex FBI head Robert Mueller - to investigate the Russian-Trump connections now. He informed the White House after the fact, and we haven't heard from Trump on what he has to say. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/may/17/donald-trump-russia-james-comey-flynn-live Brit Hume, on FOX, seemed to be trying to tell Trump how he should respond, saying it would be 'very, very wise' of the White House to welcome the special counsel and promise full cooperation. I have a feeling that, given Trump's disposition, he would have been enraged when he found out about this, and probably felt betrayed, and probably want to fire Rosenstein. That would be a HUGE mistake, but that doesn't mean Trump might not want to make it. Edited May 17, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Omni Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, taxme said: So, nothing to say about politics in Russia, eh? All you know about Russia and Putin than is about Russian roundabouts. Ya, I saw those on the internet too. Are you sure that you don't get pizzed on wodka a lot yourself? Just asking? I started out simple so as not to bury you. And hey, roundabouts are much more interesting when you are actually driving them than simply googling them. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 Just trying to remember if Obama squelched any FBI investigations besides those of Hillary and that IRS thingy? I know he tried to influence other things like Treyvon Martin and Darren Wilson, but I wonder just how many times he actually obstructed justice. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Omni Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Just trying to remember if Obama squelched any FBI investigations besides those of Hillary and that IRS thingy? I know he tried to influence other things like Treyvon Martin and Darren Wilson, but I wonder just how many times he actually obstructed justice. Obama 0 Trump, probably at least one. Your man seems to be winning. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 Just now, Omni said: Obama 0 Trump, probably at least one. Your man seems to be winning. Well, Obama has at least 2 obstructions on record. There was never any outrage, so they all kinda slipped under the radar, but when I have time, maybe I'll find some others.. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Omni Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Hal 9000 said: Well, Obama has at least 2 obstructions on record. There was never any outrage, so they all kinda slipped under the radar, but when I have time, maybe I'll find some others.. I suggest not wasting your time, but rather pay attention to what the independent investigation finds. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: Well, Obama has at least 2 obstructions on record. There was never any outrage, so they all kinda slipped under the radar, but when I have time, maybe I'll find some others.. Yes, at least two, but Obama didn't have a pitchfork nation coming after him for impeachment from day number 1. President Obama waded in on the Clinton email investigation several times. http://www.dailywire.com/news/16583/flashback-did-obama-obstruct-justice-when-he-said-elliott-hamilton 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 Trump must be a little scared with Mueller appointment. This ought to speed up impeachment and maybe we can get on to some actually important news. This is getting so boring. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 He's not getting impeached. It's pretty clear that everyone has some baggage, but to impeach Trump sets a very low precedent for impeachment, one that I'm sure Obama and Hillary don't want to see lowered. Do the Dems want to opt for the scorched earth policy? Personally, I'd like to hear more about the Clinton foundation and their relationships. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Omni Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said: He's not getting impeached. It's pretty clear that everyone has some baggage, but to impeach Trump sets a very low precedent for impeachment, one that I'm sure Obama and Hillary don't want to see lowered. Do the Dems want to opt for the scorched earth policy? Personally, I'd like to hear more about the Clinton foundation and their relationships. Obstruction of Justice is certainly not a "low precedent", whatever that is supposed to mean. I think lying about collusion with Russia is a tad more serious than lying about extramarital sex. He will very likely be impeached. Quote
Hal 9000 Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Omni said: Obstruction of Justice is certainly not a "low precedent", whatever that is supposed to mean. I think lying about collusion with Russia is a tad more serious than lying about extramarital sex. He will very likely be impeached. If a president can stand up and say Hillary is innocent of any wrongdoing while a formal investigation is still ongoing - and that's deemed ok, then I hardly think saying "i hope you can see clear to let this go", is considered obstruction. I know that you really want this, but even many pundits who really hate him, are saying impeachment likely won't happen. FYI, this is not so much about impeachment for the Dems as it is about the next election. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
Omni Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Hal 9000 said: If a president can stand up and say Hillary is innocent of any wrongdoing while a formal investigation is still ongoing - and that's deemed ok, then I hardly think saying "i hope you can see clear to let this go", is considered obstruction. I know that you really want this, but even many pundits who really hate him, are saying impeachment likely won't happen. FYI, this is not so much about impeachment for the Dems as it is about the next election. There is a wide gap between simply making a statement, and relieving someone like the head of the FBI of their job, especially with regard to the current situation. Quote
taxme Posted May 18, 2017 Report Posted May 18, 2017 5 hours ago, Omni said: I started out simple so as not to bury you. And hey, roundabouts are much more interesting when you are actually driving them than simply googling them. There can be no doubt about it. You have to be a liberal troll because liberals never answer any questions asked of them. They just keep coming back with more nonsense. . Quote
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