America under President Trump

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On 2/8/2017 at 8:05 PM, Hudson Jones said:

In some ways, he is following up on what he said he would do. However, the whole "draining the swamp" thing isn't really happening. The appointments he has made are contrary to what he had said he would do.

People expected any different? OF course Trump would not be draining the swamp. It's where many of his friends live. Some of them are friends with the Clintons too!

[Topaz]

Have  patience people, Trump is very peeve off with the leaks and he's  going  after them and there's more firing coming down the road within his government and don't be surprise if Clinton is charged. I saw a cover  of  a magazine that said she fleeing the US. I hear they have a place in Belize.

[?Impact]

20 minutes ago, Topaz said:

 I saw a cover  of  a magazine that said she fleeing the US.

Standing in the checkout line again?

Yes, I love Trump's comment today about leaks in the Whitehouse. He said it went way back, but it was much worse today. Gee, I wonder what happened.

[dialamah]

31 minutes ago, Topaz said:

Have  patience people, Trump is very peeve off with the leaks and he's  going  after them and there's more firing coming down the road within his government and don't be surprise if Clinton is charged. I saw a cover  of  a magazine that said she fleeing the US. I hear they have a place in Belize.

 

There's also this about Trump.

 

 

[?Impact]

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump called China "the single greatest currency manipulator that's ever been on this planet" and his first-day priority would be to label them as such and slap on a 45 percent tariff on Chinese imports.

 

....still waiting

 

[kactus]

13 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

On the campaign trail, Donald Trump called China "the single greatest currency manipulator that's ever been on this planet" and his first-day priority would be to label them as such and slap on a 45 percent tariff on Chinese imports.

 

....still waiting

 

Ain't gonna happen unless Trump literally is signing his death warrant to implement such executive order...

[betsy]

Though tabloids have a bad rap, it can't be denied that there were some scandals that started with the National Enquirer (and later turned out to be true).  That guy Edwards (who was running as Kerry's vice president comes to mind). The Enquirer was the one that tipped about the affair, and later on about his love child.

 

I saw this interesting article about Trump, and the attempt to get him impeached.  There is a ring of truth in what is being revealed.  It allegedly involves Barack Obama.

 

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/photos/donald-trump-impeachment-barack-obama/

[kimmy]

16 minutes ago, betsy said:

Though tabloids have a bad rap, it can't be denied that there were some scandals that started with the National Enquirer (and later turned out to be true).  That guy Edwards (who was running as Kerry's vice president comes to mind). The Enquirer was the one that tipped about the affair, and later on about his love child.

 

I saw this interesting article about Trump, and the attempt to get him impeached.  There is a ring of truth in what is being revealed.  It allegedly involves Barack Obama.

 

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/photos/donald-trump-impeachment-barack-obama/

Aside from being legendary for their lack of truthfulness, the Enquirer is also published by one of Trump's close friends.  It's no accident that the National Enquirer was doing hit-pieces on Trump's opponents during the Republican primaries and on Hillary Clinton throughout the election campaign.

Also, it wasn't Barack Obama that put Michael Flynn on the phone with the Russians. It wasn't Barack Obama that picked Paul Manafort to run Trump's campaign.

Also, I thought George Soros was the go-to bogeyman for Republicans.

Also, what if it's Bat-Boy who is masterminding the plot to unseat Trump?

 -k

[kimmy]

4 hours ago, Topaz said:

Have  patience people, Trump is very peeve off with the leaks and he's  going  after them and there's more firing coming down the road within his government and don't be surprise if Clinton is charged. I saw a cover  of  a magazine that said she fleeing the US. I hear they have a place in Belize.

So I gather it's your position that the problem isn't that Trump's staff keep doing stupid things, it's that the media keeps reporting on it.

They can go "get" Hillary Clinton, but Hillary Clinton didn't make Michael Flynn phone the Russians. Hillary Clinton didn't make Michael Flynn lie to Vice President Pence.  Hillary Clinton didn't make Trump hold a meeting about national security issues in plain view of visitors at his Mar-a-Lago club's restaurant. Hillary Clinton didn't let visitors at the Mar-a-Lago club take selfies with the Nuclear Launch Briefcase. Hillary Clinton didn't botch the implementation of the Muslim travel ban. Hillary Clinton didn't throw the Muslim travel ban out of court. Hillary Clinton didn't tell Kellyanne to go on TV and tell people to buy Ivanka's products. Hillary Clinton didn't tell Kellyanne to go on TV and invent a fake massacre.

But hey, if they go "get" Hillary Clinton, it might distract suckers from the sheer, utter incompetence of the Trump administration for a while. That's probably the best they can hope for at this point.

 -k

[bush_cheney2004]

Sure seems to work...a pleading visit with President Trump by Canada's clueless prime minister distracted the press for at least two hours.

[Michael Hardner]

How long will it be before they stop talking about Clinton or the election ?

[bush_cheney2004]

As long as Clinton's U.S. supporters and sycophants in Canada keep saying she won the election.

[Omni]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Sure seems to work...a pleading visit with President Trump by Canada's clueless prime minister distracted the press for at least two hours.

It seems perhaps it was Trump's clueless responses that has fascinated others for much longer.

[kimmy]

Andy Pudzer has withdrawn his name from consideration for the position of Labor Secretary.

Pudzer is, of course, a fast-food baron who has devoted many years to the cause of finding ways to further rip off the depressed and demoralized people who staff his restaurants. However, the job was certainly his if he wanted it. Aside from a decades-old spousal abuse complaint that was recanted by his ex-wife, there was nothing standing in his way.

I have to think that he looked at the current state of the Trump administration and decided "there's no way I'm hitching my wagon to this flame-broiled disaster."

 -k

[Omni]

3 hours ago, kimmy said:

Andy Pudzer has withdrawn his name from consideration for the position of Labor Secretary.

Pudzer is, of course, a fast-food baron who has devoted many years to the cause of finding ways to further rip off the depressed and demoralized people who staff his restaurants. However, the job was certainly his if he wanted it. Aside from a decades-old spousal abuse complaint that was recanted by his ex-wife, there was nothing standing in his way.

I have to think that he looked at the current state of the Trump administration and decided "there's no way I'm hitching my wagon to this flame-broiled disaster."

 -k

I'm getting the strong inclination that there are a number of those who have already hitched their wagons, who are now wishing they hadn't and will try to unhook before too much of the shyte behind that wagon lands on them. I don't recall any previous US federal election that was followed by so much turmoil in such short order. We're only in week 4 right? Crickey! 

[bush_cheney2004]

The U.S. federal election of 1860 was followed by much more "turmoil" than the election of 2016.

[betsy]

9 hours ago, kimmy said:

Aside from being legendary for their lack of truthfulness, the Enquirer is also published by one of Trump's close friends.  It's no accident that the National Enquirer was doing hit-pieces on Trump's opponents during the Republican primaries and on Hillary Clinton throughout the election campaign.

Also, it wasn't Barack Obama that put Michael Flynn on the phone with the Russians. It wasn't Barack Obama that picked Paul Manafort to run Trump's campaign.

Also, I thought George Soros was the go-to bogeyman for Republicans.

Also, what if it's Bat-Boy who is masterminding the plot to unseat Trump?

 -k

 

Yes they do print out a lot of falsies - but they also had a few that ended up being true.

I'm not making any confirmation about that article, thus I've used the term "allegedly."   But, it's interesting how things have been shaping up - the continuous dissent from the moment Trump took office.

I don't think Obama is the mastermind.  He could be among those in the inner circle, but he's just another one among many - some maybe, unwittingly -  answering to a puppet master. 

 

Edited February 16, 2017 by betsy

[betsy]

6 hours ago, kimmy said:

Andy Pudzer has withdrawn his name from consideration for the position of Labor Secretary.

Pudzer is, of course, a fast-food baron who has devoted many years to the cause of finding ways to further rip off the depressed and demoralized people who staff his restaurants. However, the job was certainly his if he wanted it. Aside from a decades-old spousal abuse complaint that was recanted by his ex-wife, there was nothing standing in his way.

I have to think that he looked at the current state of the Trump administration and decided "there's no way I'm hitching my wagon to this flame-broiled disaster."

 -k

 

From what I hear, he withdrew from the nomination when some Republicans balked at voting for him.

 

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Puzder's problems have been mounting for weeks, but were concentrating as several Senate Republicans made clear they were withholding support ahead of his previously scheduled Senate hearing. 

Well-placed senior Capitol Hill sources told Fox News that “about a dozen” Republican senators expressed reservations or concerns about Puzder, and told their leadership they were not prepared to support his nomination. 

Puzder’s high-profile divorce including past abuse allegations from his ex-wife; revelations that his family had hired an undocumented immigrant as their housekeeper; and his business background all have cast a harsh spotlight on the executive. Puzder could not afford to lose much Republican backing, since the GOP has a slim majority in the Senate. 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/15/puzder-expected-to-withdraw-as-labor-nominee-sources-say.html

 

He withdrew because he knew he was toast.

Edited February 16, 2017 by betsy

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

 

From what I hear, he withdrew from the nomination when some Republicans balked at voting for him.

He withdrew because he knew he was toast.

 

Agreed...the unpaid taxes and hiring illegals standard was set a long time ago by Bill Clinton's failed AG nomination for Zoë Baird ("Nannygate").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nannygate

 

[betsy]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Agreed...the unpaid taxes and hiring illegals standard was set a long time ago by Bill Clinton's failed AG nomination for Zoë Baird ("Nannygate").

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nannygate

 

Hahaha

 

And what about her replacement?

 

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The following month, Clinton's choice of federal judge Kimba Wood for the job was leaked to the press, but within a day it became known that she too had employed an undocumented immigrant to look after her child. Although Wood had done so at a time when this was legal, and had paid Social Security taxes for the worker, the disclosures were enough to cause the immediate withdrawal of Wood from consideration.

 

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, betsy said:

Hahaha

And what about her replacement?

 

Yes...more failed nominees.   Some people here have very short memories, or choose to ignore such things because it was there U.S. fave Bill Clinton or Barack Obama.

Hillary Clinton was the one who insisted that the AG must be a women.  So eventually Janet Reno was confirmed because she had no children and mowed her own lawn !    'Course...Ms. Reno would have her own problems while AG.

[?Impact]

2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The U.S. federal election of 1860 was followed by much more "turmoil" than the election of 2016.

Yes, but the turmoil was about the issues of the day (slavery, north/south division) and not the competence and corrupt nature of the new administration.

[bush_cheney2004]

7 minutes ago, ?Impact said:

Yes, but the turmoil was about the issues of the day (slavery, north/south division) and not the competence and corrupt nature of the new administration.

 

Thank you for agreeing that there has been much more "turmoil" after previous elections.   Go back and see what happened with FDR too.

The issues of today are illegal immigration, globalization, climate change hoax, abortion, etc.

Edited February 16, 2017 by bush_cheney2004

[Michael Hardner]

Do people really find comfort in going back to 1860 to find precedents for the current turmoil?

 

 

[?Impact]

24 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

The issues of today are illegal immigration, globalization, climate change hoax, abortion, etc.

The issues of Lincoln and FDR were not about gross incompetence and corruption.