Argus Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I'm trying to recall the last time a Left wing speaker had his or her speech shut down by mobs of violent conservatives. Perhaps someone can help me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just now, Argus said: Interesting how you somehow are able to completely divorce the 'interlopers' from the 'protestors' as if these were to distinct and separate groups. When a bunch of right-wing nuts decided to attack minorities and Muslim women, paint swastikas on buildings etc. after Trump's win, that had nothing to do with the general conservative demographic, right? Can't have it both ways; either the nuts are fringe elements on both the liberal/conservative sides, or they're not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 7 hours ago, betsy said: Since when is it unlawful to practice the sovereignty of a nation? Look at all the meddling happening from all foreign countries all over the world! http://www.heritage.org/report/why-does-sovereignty-matter-america Pity the USA doesn't respect the sovereignty of other nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, Argus said: These are the people the police should ensure are carried away by ambulance to an eventual multi-year assignment on a work farm picking apples. Taken away, at least. By ambulance isn't necessary, and multi-year assignments on work farms is a pretty expensive punishment for what is essentially property damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 4 minutes ago, dialamah said: When a bunch of right-wing nuts decided to attack minorities and Muslim women, paint swastikas on buildings etc. after Trump's win, that had nothing to do with the general conservative demographic, right? Mobs of right wing nuts attacked minorities and muslims and painted swastikas? Sounds like typical leftie spin. The sight of the progressives wringing their hands and whining and going on marches and hand-holding campaigns with Muslims when a few swastikas were painted around Ottawa was a sight to behold. Turned out to be one teenager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Pity the USA doesn't respect the sovereignty of other nations. Neither do other nations, so why would the U.S. act differently ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 1 minute ago, dialamah said: Taken away, at least. By ambulance isn't necessary, and multi-year assignments on work farms is a pretty expensive punishment for what is essentially property damage. Expensive to them, which is the way crime should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 Just now, Argus said: Expensive to them, which is the way crime should be. Expensive to the taxpayer; I thought protecting the taxpayer dollar was the Great Quest of Conservatives such as yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, BubberMiley said: In the interview with Bill O'Reilly. Geez. Read the news before you post. Oh! I just saw the news! Well? What's wrong with his response? Is Putin convicted of murdering anyone? Was he convicted of ordering the killing of anyone? So Trump says we have killers in the USA! That's the same way we talked about Hillary - people around her are dying! The connotation? She's getting them murdered to shut them up! The bottomline: you can't make any condemnation such as an accusation of murder, if there's no conviction! What do you think? He's President now.....he ought to be careful of what he says! You want him to be stupid enough to get slammed for defamation? To sour what could be a diplomatic relations with Russia over something like hearsay? Boy..... Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Pity the USA doesn't respect the sovereignty of other nations. Well that's another story. It's not as simple as you want it to seem. Besides, we're not talking about previous adminstrations! FOCUS. We're talking about Trump's! Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Quote 40 minutes ago, dialamah said: When a bunch of right-wing nuts decided to attack minorities and Muslim women, paint swastikas on buildings etc. after Trump's win, that had nothing to do with the general conservative demographic, right? None! You've said it yourself! That would be like you saying, " a bunch of gay coaches molesting teenage boys make the general gay population, all the same!" Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, betsy said: The bottomline: you can't make any condemnation such as an accusation of murder, if there's no conviction! What do you think? He's President now.....he ought to be careful of what he says! You want him to be stupid enough to get slammed for defamation? To sour what could be a diplomatic relations with Russia over something like hearsay? Boy..... No, the bottom line is he didn't deny that Putin is a murderer, as you are trying to misrepresent. He denied that it's a big deal that he's a murderer. You are defending those words as if you agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: No, the bottom line is he didn't deny that Putin is a murderer, as you are trying to misrepresent. Why would he make any denial? There's nothing to deny - there's no conviction, not even a trial! Is he sure that Putin is not a killer? No. Is he sure that Putin is a killer? No. But he's making a point that we've got the same kind of speculations in the USA - like Hillary's controversies! Are we sure that Hillary is not involved in any way in any killing? No! Are we sure Hillary is a killer? No. Why didn't Obama come out and say, "Hillary is not a killer?" Because there's no reason to come out to deny anything! It's all speculations! Quote He denied that it's a big deal that he's a murderer. You are defending those words as if you agree. Another right that's being trampled by the left - right to fair trial. Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, betsy said: Why would he make any denial? There's nothing to deny - there's no conviction, not even a trial! Is he sure that Putin is not a killer? No. Is he sure that Putin is a killer? No. But he's making a point that we've got the same kind of speculations in the USA - like Hillary's controversies! Are we sure that Hillary is not involved in any way in any killing? No! Are we sure Hillary is a killer? No. Why didn't Obama come out and say, "Hillary is not a killer?" Because there's no reason to come out to deny anything! It's all speculations! You're right. He didn't confirm or deny. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything though. He just suggested it's no big deal. That's the point you're desperately trying to distract attention from. Again, he did not say something reasonable like "we don't know conclusively that Putin is a murderer" (because that would just make him look stupid and naive). He said, to paraphrase, "murder? So what? We have murderers too!" This is psychopathic and insane. I suspect you must be having misgivings about supporting his candidacy now, judging by your rambling tangent about Hillary. Edited February 5, 2017 by BubberMiley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, kimmy said: Infighting is now a permanent feature of United States politics. It has been this way since at least the mid-1990s and hasn't stopped since. The notion that this is some new crisis is quite funny. -k Certainly seems like some people are having a hard time making the adjustment. Presumably, suicide hotline call numbers have subsided, although I cannot be sure. Also, seems like the leftist protestors reaction far exceeds the kind of hostility that was Obama faced, when he became president. The right certainly did react and protest, but nothing like this. Worldwide, even. Leftism transcends borders. Edited February 5, 2017 by OftenWrong react Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Also, seems like the leftist protestors reaction far exceeds the kind of hostility that was Obama faced, when he became president. The right certainly did react and protest, but nothing like this. Worldwide, even. I smell another false equivalency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Leftism transcends borders. Yes! Remember the Arab Spring? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 7 minutes ago, dialamah said: Yes! Remember the Arab Spring? Nope. Remember the Gulags? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 11 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: I smell another false equivalency. Perhaps you need to take a shower then my friend. It's probably you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 5 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: Nope. Remember the Gulags? Nope. But I looked it up and found out that Stalin was more conservative than progressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 1 hour ago, dialamah said: When a bunch of right-wing nuts decided to attack minorities and Muslim women, paint swastikas on buildings etc. after Trump's win, that had nothing to do with the general conservative demographic, right? Here's the problem, in some cases those bad guys were planted by people who worked very closely with the Linton campaign. You've heard of n agent provocateur, I assume? This is the sort thing they do. Democratic heads roll after video shows agitators planted at Trump rallies The first video shows Democratic strategists discussing how they hire agitators — including union members, homeless people and the mentally ill — to incite violence by provoking Trump supporters on camera at campaign stops. Project Veritas released a second video Tuesday showing Mr. Foval brainstorming over ways to commit voter fraud, such as by busing people from one state to another, while appearing to indicate that it had already been done in Iowa. I don't know about you people, but I find that among the most damning testimony about the kind of intrigue that's going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 I just read online that he US congress has a Bill floating.. its for to declare war on Iran or maybe an invasion of Iran. Don't these guys get tired of playing war? All these wars since WW@ are crap and maybe we better start building those bomb shelters but then again , whats going to be left of the world to live in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, BubberMiley said: You're right. He didn't confirm or deny. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything though. He just suggested it's no big deal. That's the point you're desperately trying to distract attention from. You're the one who's holding it against him that he didn't deny, right? Here, read your post again: Quote 4 hours ago, BubberMiley said: No, the bottom line is he didn't deny that Putin is a murderer, as you are trying to misrepresent. Thus I responded: Why would he make any denial? There's nothing to deny - there's no conviction, not even a trial! Is he sure that Putin is not a killer? No. Is he sure that Putin is a killer? No. But he's making a point that we've got the same kind of speculations in the USA - like Hillary's controversies! Are we sure that Hillary is not involved in any way in any killing? No! Are we sure Hillary is a killer? No. Why didn't Obama come out and say, "Hillary is not a killer?" Because there's no reason to come out to deny anything! It's all speculations! Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted February 5, 2017 Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 6 minutes ago, betsy said: You're the Thus I responded: Why would he make any denial? There's nothing to deny - there's no conviction, not even a trial! Is he sure that Putin is not a killer? No. Is he sure that Putin is a killer? No. But he's making a point that we've got the same kind of speculations in the USA - like Hillary's controversies! Are we sure that Hillary is not involved in any way in any killing? No! Why didn't Obama come out and say, "Hillary is not a killer?" Because there's no reason to come out to deny anything! It's all speculations! I'm not sure if you are completely oblivious by nature or if that is just a strategy to distract from the humiliation of supporting a guy who says political murder is no big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted February 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BubberMiley said: I'm not sure if you are completely oblivious by nature or if that is just a strategy to distract from the humiliation of supporting a guy who says political murder is no big deal. Why would the interviewer even ask along that line? Trump was likely being sarcastic. Imagine him saying political murder is no big deal...... He asked religious leaders to pray for Arnie's Apprentice rating (I caught his smile at the end of that). If you hadn't noticed, Trump's got an odd sense of humor. Edited February 5, 2017 by betsy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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