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6 hours ago, Rue said:

This just in Kanye West called me. He is ready to run. He wants Bush Chaney to call him. 

 

 

Don't worry....the Americans will pick somebody to join Biden against Trump/Pence, and either way the election goes there will still be a U.S. president for some Canadians to bitch about, a true sign of happiness.

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17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Don't worry....the Americans will pick somebody to join Biden against Trump/Pence, and either way the election goes there will still be a U.S. president for some Canadians to bitch about, a true sign of happiness.

As long as it's the dumb ones who are complaining, America is doing ok. Let's just hope it stays that way.

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Stats on employment are notoriously manipulated. They do not include people who have given up looking for work, unemployed people who were once self employed and lost their jobs,or people who are now under-employed.

2.5 million what? What kinds of jobs? What jobs did they replace?  During the month they were obtained do you really know how many lost their jobs? Is replacing a full time job with a part time job at much less pay reflected in your stats? 

Anyone can throw out a no. Its meaningless without further context and analysis.

 

 

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4 hours ago, New World Disorder said:

Stocks are doing great apparently. The unemployment numbers do not agree.  What is the disconnect here?

Traders must think it means meh - Wall/Bay Street usually pout when proles have reason to be happy.

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On 6/7/2020 at 6:39 PM, Rue said:

Stats on employment are notoriously manipulated. They do not include people who have given up looking for work, unemployed people who were once self employed and lost their jobs,or people who are now under-employed.

2.5 million what? What kinds of jobs? What jobs did they replace?  During the month they were obtained do you really know how many lost their jobs? Is replacing a full time job with a part time job at much less pay reflected in your stats? 

Anyone can throw out a no. Its meaningless without further context and analysis.

The dirtiest trick in the book is when liberal politicians create a bunch of low-paying, part-time, economy-draining government "jobs" just to lower the unemployment rate. 

Any private sector jobs are good for the economy, obviously some are better than others.

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17 hours ago, New World Disorder said:

Stocks are doing great apparently. The unemployment numbers do not agree.  What is the disconnect here?

The stock market is based on faith in the economy. People are speculating on the future of America, not focusing on January through June 2020.

That's why, as the polls were saying that Hillary had a 70%, then 80%, 85%, then finally a 92% chance of winning, the Dow was tanking. The moment Trump was elected, the Dow took off like a shot.

Trump wasn't even inaugurated until 2 months later. He didn't even have the power to do anything yet. But the Dow went up like crazy.

Investors were anticipating an end to the rioting & looting, and a business-friendly federal government. 

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1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

The dirtiest trick in the book is when liberal politicians create a bunch of low-paying, part-time, economy-draining government "jobs" just to lower the unemployment rate. 

Any private sector jobs are good for the economy, obviously some are better than others.

That said thanks, I am glad people found work. I see covid's impact on our economies as a bipartisan issue. It's not particular to Trump or Trudeau as much as we blame them I argue.

I peesinally am not sure if unlimited government spending is the answer. Inevitably at an individual level all of us will have to make do with less to restart biz.

Making those sacrifices ain't easy.  If blacks in the US really want change they will have to start their own businesses and boycott certain products. 

Sacrifice to make positive changes hurts.  You will know people are ready when they are willing to do without nikes and TVs and cell phones and bmws and gold necklaces. Until then it's just people angry about not having enough non essential shit they are duckered into thinking they need to be happy.. if you ask me ..which is your point too or Shady's or OW's and believe it or not Dialamas  or Eye's point as well.

We are caught up in the wrong priorities. You can't be free when your first reaction to your environment you don't like is  to grab a t.v.

Our values are skewed  which Betsy is saying.

I read everyone on the forum. Y'all have said the same things about it believe it or not.

Me agree.

Back to Trump, he's just the starting point for all these discussions butb has very little to do with it. He just spits back the sound bites of the day between golf matches.

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1 hour ago, Rue said:

Back to Trump, he's just the starting point for all these discussions butb has very little to do with it. He just spits back the sound bites of the day between golf matches.

Is this sorta what you mean by a sound bite Rue?

1 hour ago, Rue said:

Lol yah but you are a commie.

 

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3 hours ago, New World Disorder said:

So who are those people who have faith while 40 M are out of work?

Maybe the fact that health officials are saying that it's safe for thousands of people can go out and protest is giving people hope that things are going to open up again? I dunno. I didn't rush out and invest.

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On 6/5/2020 at 10:25 AM, Shady said:

YUGE jobs report!  Record 2.5 million jobs in May!  No wonder the Dems wanted the lockdowns to continue.  June's jobs report is gonna be even bigger!

I was waiting for you to update your post since it was revealed to be fake news. I forgot you think retractions are fake news and sticking with lies is not.

https://www.thestreet.com/mishtalk/economics/surprise-the-bls-admits-another-phony-jobs-report

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40 minutes ago, Boges said:

On the day of George Floyd's funeral Trump was Tweeting conspiracy theories of an 75 year old man that was assaulted by police. 

:rolleyes:

Please be my guest, this is when you gentiles need to free to use the expression.. oy gevalt...

The thing is I think Americans love him precisely because he is a fat  pathological liar and see no contradiction in him calling others fake or in need  of a diet.

This is what the American people want. They prefer it. Trump symbolizes a rejection of politicians by  electing someone who shows contempt for them.

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8 minutes ago, Rue said:

Please be my guest, this is when you gentiles need to free to use the expression.. oy gevalt...

The thing is I think Americans love him precisely because he is a fat  pathological liar and see no contradiction in him calling others fake or in need  of a diet.

This is what the American people want. They prefer it. Trump symbolizes a rejection of politicians by  electing someone who shows contempt for them.

That's fine, but when people of faith also embrace him, it's a level of hypocrisy that can't be imagined. 

I actually don't think Americans, by and large, support him. 

At least 55-60% outright hate him. 

His base is that 30%. And I'm sure large swath of them would support any Republican, but I think you're right. His attitude appeals to many people. And they've fallen for his Grift. His entire life has been about conning people (Steaks, Universities, Hotels, Casinos). So it's no surprise that he's conning Poor, uneducated white people into thinking he's going to fight for them. 

What's depressing about the Election is that the votes of most of the country won't matter. It'll come down to maybe a million people in 5 states. And they'll decide who wins the election. 

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You know you're desperate when. . . 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/andrewsolender/2020/06/10/trump-campaign-demands-cnn-apologize-and-retract-poll-showing-biden-up-14-points/#6960d33934bd

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As part of an effort to refute a recent flurry of bad polling, the Trump campaign sent a cease and desist letter to CNN demanding they apologize and retract a poll showing former Vice President Joe Biden leading by a wide margin, which CNN refused to do.

Trump could easily claim "Fake News" like he always does. But his plummet in popularity has clearly gotten to him. 

And though the CNN poll was the most damning of Trump, it's not exactly an outlier. 

All of these polls have Trump no closer than 6 points behind Biden. 
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

And while we're at it, Biden is up in these Battleground states.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/wi/wisconsin_trump_vs_biden-6849.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/mi/michigan_trump_vs_biden-6761.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/mn/minnesota_trump_vs_biden-6966.html

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I have now decided to make a unilateral proclamation of American Republican politicians I approve of  who should replace Trump today with the exception of the first on the list who is clearly non a supporter of either the Reps or Dems:

Jesse Ventura, Mitt Romney, Colin Powell, Nikki Haley Charlie Baker, John Kesich, Larry Hogan, Sue Collins, and if he wasn't Austrian born, Arnold Schwarznegger.

Of the Dems, Cory Booker is my pick.

If I was bringing in someone completely outside of politics I would bring in Ben Shapiro and Chris Cuomo just to make things interesting to watch on tv.

 

 

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45 minutes ago, Rue said:

Jesse Ventura, Mitt Romney, Colin Powell, Nikki Haley Charlie Baker, John Kesich, Larry Hogan, Sue Collins, and if he wasn't Austrian born, Arnold Schwarznegger.

Of the Dems, Cory Booker is my pick.

If I was bringing in someone completely outside of politics I would bring in Ben Shapiro and Chris Cuomo just to make things interesting to watch on tv.

 

 

Ventura would get my vote..

Powell,,  absolutely not. he bowed to the will of the Bush administration and helped perpetuate the Iraq invasions.

Dont know much about the rest of the lot...  well Arnie might be decent.

Cuomo the cuck or Shrieking Shapiro..  either are terrible choices too. 

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COVID-19 is no threat! Wearing a mask is for pussies!!! We need to start Rallies again!!!

Oh by the way. . . sign this. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/11/politics/trump-campaign-rally-coronavirus/index.html

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(CNN)Attendees of President Donald Trump's upcoming rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, must agree not to sue the campaign if they contract coronavirus.

Rallygoers are asked to RSVP to gain admission to the event and by registering, they must agree to a disclaimer that states they acknowledge the "inherent risk of exposure to COVID-19 exists in any public place where people are present."

"By attending the Rally, you and any guests voluntarily assume all risks related to exposure to COVID-19 and agree not to hold Donald J. Trump for President, Inc.; BOK Center; ASM Global; or any of their affiliates, directors, officers, employees, agents, contractors, or volunteers liable for any illness or injury," the disclaimer reads.

You know anyone wearing a mask at a MAGA rally will be targeted and mocked, probably by 45 himself, so also making them sign away any right to sue is hilariously ironic. 

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