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19 hours ago, Argus said:

I think today pretty much exemplified Trump's childishness and lack of self-control. A Democratic congressman named John Lewis said in an interview that he doesn't regard Trump as a legitimate president because he thinks the Russians helped him. Most elected presidents - or presidents elect - would ignore that, since the office is supposed to have a certain level of elevated dignity, or at most, have one of their representatives say something. But Trump, of course, goes immediately for Twitter to call him names, and not just him, but to insult his whole district, calling it "horrible, falling apart, and crime infested".

It's almost certain Trump had no idea what district Lewis represented, but figured since he was Black it was probably some sort of dump. In reality, he represents most of Atlanta, including some of it's more upscale neighborhoods. But that's just the way Trump rolls, all blowhard bluster that's too lazy to engage in even the most elementary research. His description of George's 5th district pretty much shows that to anyone who cares to look. He's petty and immature, and lacks any sense of dignity.

This Lewis guy should work on convincing himself that the election is over, and it was won fair and square. This Lewis guy still wants to continue the fight and continue to keep alive all of this nonsense about Russian hacking. And I don't blame Trump for responding to this Lewis guy. He deserved it. This guy should have shown more respect for the new President, not insult him. It is just the same old, same old from these loser democrats. Attack-attack and attack Trump some more. 

Trump is probably right about Lewis and the district that Lewis represents. Trump didn't figure that because Lewis is black that Lewis lived in some sort of Dump. Trump most likely knew that most of the district he serves has it's black slums also. Trump pretty much knows what he is talking about. The man is no fool. Trump may be a bit outspoken but he is no fool. One does not become a billionaire if one is a fool. Think about it. 

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2 minutes ago, sharkman said:

Sure, 8 years of "doubting the legitimacy of his presidency".  The disconnect with reality here is puzzling.

Well, given the legitimacy of the US' ethical treatment of just about everything they touch doubting him now seems a little moot.

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19 hours ago, Topaz said:

IF they had spent the billions or trillion of $$  going to war in the ME, they probably could have a better  healthcare system than other countries.

But the democrats decided not too. War is better than helping people. There is never enough money to help people but there is plenty of money for wars, and plenty of money to be made from wars. I believe that Trump is going to put an end to those wars, and he is going to keep all that war money, and blow it on America.  

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16 hours ago, ?Impact said:

The Sunday Times is reporting that Trump will meet Putin in Iceland in a few weeks. I guess high fives, hugs, and kisses all around are in order.

High fives and hugs will hopefully be in order. That will be a lot better than more sanctions and a possible war with Russia. Russia is for peace, not war. It is the people who continuously believe that Russia is a problem and they want war and sanctions against Russia. Wake up people and smell the dam coffee. :D 

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14 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Good...he is following in Reagan's footsteps (met with General Secretary Gorbachev in Iceland).   

Sure beats wasting his time with Justin Trudeau in Ottawa.

If Trump even bothers to try and find some time to go to Ottawa, and meet with our fearless wonderful dear comrade leader. Personally, JT is really a waste a time. 

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The Sunday Times is reporting that Trump will meet Putin in Iceland in a few weeks. 

It's a testimonial to mass hypnosis that leaders are able to convince their people who allies and enemies are.  China, Saudi Arabia, and now Russia are modelled as friendly nations to meet the goals of leadership.  Trump has the toughest job, and his skills don't seem to be up to convincing his people if his own party is any representative sample.

Luckily, Trump has an ocean of blind devotees who love him no matter what he does.  When he fails to bill Mexico for his multi-billion dollar wall, when he fails to do anything about the economy or do anything he has half-promised to do they will still be behind him.  They are mesmerized by his bovine image and will never need another reason to support what he says.

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No matter what happens, Trump has already exceeded expectations politically, destroying more than a dozen Republican nomination rivals and defeating Hillary Clinton for the presidency.   Unlike some Americans, Canadian media will not be boycotting President Trump's inauguration.  

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26 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Luckily, Trump has an ocean of blind devotees who love him no matter what he does.  When he fails to bill Mexico for his multi-billion dollar wall, when he fails to do anything about the economy or do anything he has half-promised to do they will still be behind him.  They are mesmerized by his bovine image and will never need another reason to support what he says.

 

Indeed....just like faithful Obama or Trudeau devotees.   All is well.....

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49 minutes ago, taxme said:

This Lewis guy should work on convincing himself that the election is over, and it was won fair and square. This Lewis guy still wants to continue the fight and continue to keep alive all of this nonsense about Russian hacking. And I don't blame Trump for responding to this Lewis guy. He deserved it. This guy should have shown more respect for the new President, not insult him. It is just the same old, same old from these loser democrats. Attack-attack and attack Trump some more.

More quotes from Lewis! You can't deny he's persistent!

"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided! "

"Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us."

"This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!"

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy."

"More votes equals a loss. Revolution!"

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30 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's a testimonial to mass hypnosis that leaders are able to convince their people who allies and enemies are.  China, Saudi Arabia, and now Russia are modelled as friendly nations to meet the goals of leadership.  Trump has the toughest job, and his skills don't seem to be up to convincing his people if his own party is any representative sample.

Luckily, Trump has an ocean of blind devotees who love him no matter what he does.  When he fails to bill Mexico for his multi-billion dollar wall, when he fails to do anything about the economy or do anything he has half-promised to do they will still be behind him.  They are mesmerized by his bovine image and will never need another reason to support what he says.

You 're sounding kinda depressed Michael, everything okay?

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11 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Indeed....just like faithful Obama or Trudeau devotees.   All is well.....

Trudeau heard a loud, hollow-sounding drop in his approval when he tap-danced around some promises recently.  Let's see if Trump's people get it when he does the same.  But this is not a Trudeau thread ...

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5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Trudeau heard a loud, hollow-sounding drop in his approval when he tap-danced around some promises recently.  Let's see if Trump's people get it when he does the same.  But this is not a Trudeau thread ...

 

So what....how many times has Trump been called out in "Trudeau" threads ?  

Trudeau is the PM of Canada and will have to deal with Trump and his policies.....nice try.

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7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

No matter what happens, Trump has already exceeded expectations politically, destroying more than a dozen Republican nomination rivals and defeating Hillary Clinton for the presidency.   Unlike some Americans, Canadian media will not be boycotting President Trump's inauguration.  

It's for sure that the Canadian media won't be avoiding the inauguration. It will give them something else to talk about to try and justify their jobs. 

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7 hours ago, Argus said:

More quotes from Lewis! You can't deny he's persistent!

"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided! "

"Lets fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice! The world is laughing at us."

"This election is a total sham and a travesty. We are not a democracy!"

"The electoral college is a disaster for a democracy."

"More votes equals a loss. Revolution!"

One cannot deny that it is time for him to retire. It would appear as though politics has caused some serious looking damage to his brain over the years.   

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8 hours ago, Argus said:

More quotes from Lewis! You can't deny he's persistent!

"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided! "

 

Congratulations. For exposing the idiocy of the man making the quotes and the stupidity of his followers who haven't caught on, I award you one internet. Don't spend it all in one place.

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On 1/14/2017 at 4:42 PM, blueblood said:

They all manufacture news now.

No, ,not really. That seems to be the raison d'etre fo Fox News (at least when it comes to the main stream media). But thanks for playing. 

Re: Trump and racism

Because trump doesn't want illegal immigrants coming in, especially criminals, along with making sure immigrants from war areas are properly vetted like our immigration policy?  

No, because trump is a racist piece of garbage. Full stop.

See: Trump's accusation that an American-born judge can't be fair because of "Mexican Heritage". No "illegal immigration" there. No need to "vet" him. Just a pure, unadulterated racial slur against a judge. Even many republicans (e.g. Paul Ryan) thought the comment was racist.

I could also point out how Trump's organization was caught denying black people the ability to rent out apartments in his buildings, or how he made a claim along the lines of how "laziness is a trait in blacks". Then there is his association with Bannon, who ran a web site that frequently has anti-semetic articles. Or the Trump campaign posting an anti-Hillary image that had the star of david... The Trump campaign claimed the star came from Microsoft graphics, but the source of the image was traced to racist sources... why exactly the Trump campaign would be paying attention to those type of sources is never really explained.  

As for your suggestion of "proper vetting", keep in mind that:

1) Trump initially didn't claim he want'ed proper vetting, he wanted all immigration stopped, based on religion. It was only later that he came up with the idea of "extreme vetting".

2) The fact is anyone coming from "war areas" already has to go through a process taking over a year (and many levels of bureaucracy before they can travel to the U.S. 

Unfortunately in this day and age people shout racism to stifle debate on solutions to problems which is a bad thing.

And even more unfortunate is the fact that people have to shout "racism" when a person is actually exhibiting bigoted behavior. Like claiming an American-born judge can't be impartial because of Mexican heritage. 

Not every accusation of racism is due to political correctness or an attempt to stifle debate. Sometimes its due to actual racism.

Yeah those regulations, if they are at the point of stifling growth then they get tossed.  No risk no reward.

2 major problems with your argument:

First of all, the problem is that those who are getting the rewards are not always the same people dealing with the risks. For example, in the financial meltdown of 2008, it wasn't the high-paid bankers that were suffering,  Many of those who suffered were small-time people who may have lost their jobs because of the financial collapse (even though they didn't engage in any of the questionable banking practices). Or you also have the tax payers, many of whom had no money in the housing market, but ended up seeing their tax money going to clean up the financial mess (through TARP). Or when it comes to the environment, environmental disasters are not always paid for by the ones who cause the damage. 

Secondly, even if it were possible to guarantee that only those receiving rewards would be risking things, you also require the risk to be properly quantified. One of the major issues with the 2008 meltdown was the fact that Deriviatives did not have proper ratings from the credit agencies. In other words, people were under more risk than they were let on to believe. Regulations preventing people from being lied to seem like something we should have. 

 

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1 hour ago, taxme said:

One cannot deny that it is time for him to retire. It would appear as though politics has caused some serious looking damage to his brain over the years.   

Yes, the man making those comments should definitely retire. Or get thrown in jail for being a dumbass. For once I agree... the person making those comments probably has brain damage.

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