Topaz Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Nancy Reagan has died and after reading her life story she and her hubby Ron Reagan had a very exciting acting life as well as Ron being the President of the USA. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/us/nancy-reagan-a-stylish-and-influential-first-lady-dies-at-94/ar-BBqpxzE?li=AAggNb9&ocid=SK2MDHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 94. Good innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I remember being a young teenager when Nancy Reagan promoted her campaigns of denial abstinence when it comes to sex and drugs. To this day I prefer education over abstinence and I did not flip at all when I became a parent. Her policies are still as much of a joke to me as they were when I was 14. I honestly can't believe the coverage she's getting today, I don't remember anything of the sort for any previous First Lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I remember being a young teenager when Nancy Reagan promoted her campaigns of denial abstinence when it comes to sex and drugs. To this day I prefer education over abstinence and I did not flip at all when I became a parent. Her policies are still as much of a joke to me as they were when I was 14. Nice....kick a dead woman. Abstinence is still a very good option for many young people, even with education. I honestly can't believe the coverage she's getting today, I don't remember anything of the sort for any previous First Lady. Then you don't remember the attention given Jackie Kennedy Onassis, who died in 1994. President Bill Clinton gave the eulogy at Arlington. And that's OK....it was in the United States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Nice....kick a dead woman. Abstinence is still a very good option for many young people, even with education.Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poochy Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Nice....kick a dead woman. You can always rely upon them to take the low road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogOnPorch Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 The Reagan clan... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqh8uRe_mzI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Nice....kick a dead woman. Abstinence is still a very good option for many young people, even with education. Then you don't remember the attention given Jackie Kennedy Onassis, who died in 1994. President Bill Clinton gave the eulogy at Arlington. And that's OK....it was in the United States. I remember her death, was televised here on CBC too. It was a big deal. And I bet her death will continue to be the most covered of all the First Lady's. Edited March 6, 2016 by WestCoastRunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Source? As a parent, I think that abstinence is always a good choice for young people, no doubt about it. Why would you think otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 As a parent, I think that abstinence is always a good choice for young people, no doubt about it. Why would you think otherwise? It's wishful thinking. It's better to teach them the difference between hard and soft drugs than to lump them all together as 'drugs' and say don't do them. Especially when most of their friends are going to be trying soft drugs. It's better to teach them about self respect and birth control and to just say don't have sex. They're curious and everyone around them is doing it so why not talk to them about it. Abstinence is a form of denial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 It's wishful thinking. It's better to teach them the difference between hard and soft drugs than to lump them all together as 'drugs' and say don't do them. Especially when most of their friends are going to be trying soft drugs. It's better to teach them about self respect and birth control and to just say don't have sex. They're curious and everyone around them is doing it so why not talk to them about it. Abstinence is a form of denial. I don't think anyone is saying to deny them an education in these matters. Even with all this knowledge, abstinence is still the safest form against pregnancies, std's, hiv etc. As far as drugs go, young people should continue to be taught 'just say no'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I don't think anyone is saying to deny them an education in these matters. Even with all this knowledge, abstinence is still the safest form against pregnancies, std's, hiv etc. As far as drugs go, young people should continue to be taught 'just say no'. Denying education about these things IS conservative mantra. Look at how much Obama was criticized for taking that approach and the campaign was supposed to help prevent sexual abuse. As for my approach, I'm certainly not going to tell my kid to not have sex or to not try drugs, I'd rather teach her how to do both responsibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I just took mine to the downtown east side a couple of times. That did the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 You can always rely upon them to take the low road.Apparently... As far as first ladies go, she was definitely one of the good ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkman Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Denying education about these things IS conservative mantra. Look at how much Obama was criticized for taking that approach and the campaign was supposed to help prevent sexual abuse. As for my approach, I'm certainly not going to tell my kid to not have sex or to not try drugs, I'd rather teach her how to do both responsibly. Yep, teaching kids to try drugs, great idea! LOL! Lemme axe you this: Would you rather that your kids try cocaine or never try cocaine? Edited March 6, 2016 by sharkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I don't think anyone is saying to deny them an education in these matters. Even with all this knowledge, abstinence is still the safest form against pregnancies, std's, hiv etc. As far as drugs go, young people should continue to be taught 'just say no'. Agreed....education often results in abstinence anyway. Would they "educate" on the safe teen use of hand guns...no way...abstinence ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I just took mine to the downtown east side a couple of times. That did the trick. I did that too with a very stubborn daughter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Denying education about these things IS conservative mantra. Look at how much Obama was criticized for taking that approach and the campaign was supposed to help prevent sexual abuse. As for my approach, I'm certainly not going to tell my kid to not have sex or to not try drugs, I'd rather teach her how to do both responsibly. You can't teach a young child to use responsibly once addiction has set in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal 9000 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) Denying education about these things IS conservative mantra. Look at how much Obama was criticized for taking that approach and the campaign was supposed to help prevent sexual abuse. As for my approach, I'm certainly not going to tell my kid to not have sex or to not try drugs, I'd rather teach her how to do both responsibly. You really teach your daughter how to do drugs and have sex "responsibly"? WoW - thats MOtY material! Edited March 6, 2016 by Hal 9000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Denying education about these things IS conservative mantra. Look at how much Obama was criticized for taking that approach and the campaign was supposed to help prevent sexual abuse. As for my approach, I'm certainly not going to tell my kid to not have sex or to not try drugs, I'd rather teach her how to do both responsibly. I think your confusing my responses. I'm not against education. To bring this back to the OP. NR was a very moderate republican especially by today's standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 (edited) You can't teach a young child to use responsibly once addiction has set in. I was talking teaching them the difference soft and hard drugs instead of 'don't do drugs'. In countries where the distinction is made there is a difference in attitude about hard drugs and kids abstain more intuitively. Edited March 6, 2016 by BC_chick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 I was talking teaching them the difference soft and hard drugs instead of 'don't do drugs'. In countries where the distinction is made there is a difference in attitude about hard drugs and kids anstain more intuitively. As I said, I am FOR education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Nancy Reagan, Dr. Everett Koop (U.S. Surgeon General), and others helped to develop public policy during the initial HIV/AIDS epidemic in the United States. Even son Ron Reagan was watching his friends die from the disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC_chick Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 As I said, I am FOR education. I'm not trying to convince you I'm stating my opinion about why a systematic 'no' is a detriment.. That was the crux of NR's campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 6, 2016 Report Share Posted March 6, 2016 Nancy Reagan, Dr. Everett Koop (U.S. Surgeon General), and others helped to develop public policy during the initial HIV/AIDS epidemic in the United States. Even son Ron Reagan was watching his friends die from the disease. I believe she also influenced her husband with her moderate views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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