betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Note other countries already have made similar statements about Donald Trump. Canada typically follows Britain's lead. Britain reacted to the Muslim comment of Trump and wanted him banned from entering UK. That was brought up in their Parliament. I don't think any government leaders say anything more about Trump, when he started gaining momentum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Now here is a higher profile petition to ban Mr. Trump...from the NDP. Maybe this is fake too ? Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump is known for his hateful, divisive comments. His recent proposal that the U.S. ban immigrants and visitors on the basis of their religion is unacceptable. Canada is a proud multicultural country, and we must always speak out against hate and discrimination. It is unacceptable to ban immigrants based on their religion, but it is appropriate to ban someone for spouting hate. That’s why we’re calling on the Canadian government to take a strong stand and consider refusing Donald Trump entry to Canada. Tell Donald Trump that hate and discrimination are not welcome in Canada – and add your name to #BanTrump. http://www.ndp.ca/ban-trump This one is probably just click bait to harvest names and e-mail addresses for the NDP using hatred for Trump....clever ! The NDP is trying to ride the coat tails of Trump's sensationalism! The proposal is so ridiculously juvenile! Trudeau can use the excuse of being young and inexperienced in Politics for his gaffe.....Mulcair cannot! What happens if Trump wins and becomes the sitting president? What then? If I were Trump (with a long memory for serious slights thrown at me)....I'd make sure Canada goes through every loop of every possible red tape there is, and make her sweat for any deal she wants to make! These people do not know how Trump will treat these slights should he become the sitting president. Don't forget that his followers like his message that the USA will be taken seriously under his watch! Foreign politicians should stay out of US politics and worry more about their own internal problems. So many wars would've been avoided had there been no holier-than-thou, sanctimonious hypocritical busy bodies trying to poke their noses in other people's business! Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Except that there's nothing to indicate he has a knack for business. How do you know? As far as I know he's still in business. You've watched those anti-Trump documentaries propaganda shown on the CBC? The first telling sign they were merely anti-Trump propaganda posing as a docu was when they edited his whole speech about banning Muslims from entering. They left out the crucial last part of his sentence......" ....UNTIL we know what's going on!" They purposefully took his speech out of context! His proposal is nothing new! Muslims were banned from entering the US as a result of the US embassy hostage drama in Iran in the 70's(?). How he managed to stay on top, points to his shrewd savvy in wheelin' and dealin'. You may not agree with his method, but unless you're in his shoes and actually experiencing what's going on behind closed doors, you can only make your own assumptions. You bet not everything will be moral, what's different with politics? That's what big business is all about..........same with politics! There's been a lot of wheelin and dealin among a lot of nations. The US under Obama seems to not fare so well in making deals, and the US seems to be left holding the bag. What's the deal with Iran? What did the US get out of it? Look how Obama's been treated dismally in Cuba! The attack ad showing a barking Hillary, is bang on! Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) I can foresee the scenerio: Trump and Sanders end up with the nominations. A few days before the election date, Sanders croaks from natural reasons that happen to a 75 year old guy. His choice for VP is worse than Trump and Donald Drumpf now has his finger on the nuclear button. Oy vey!! I worry more about Iran, and North Korea with that button. UN sanctions is nothing but a game for these people. You think we're not in grave danger from these people? Perhaps, with an unpredictable guy sitting in the US.....they're more likely to heed warnings from the US. A predictable barking show-dog that spits out the same rhetorics about "tolerance" is just seen as that.....an amusement show-dog that keeps reading from the same predictable script! Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 I think many of u are over reacting and some of the things BC says is out of this world, look at her picture lol. During WW2 with Japan, people were rounded up and put in camps, u don't see anything like that with Muslims in NA. So if a nation is at war with a certain group or country, isn't it right to be careful who comes into one's country, especially the US who has many enemies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Yep, all because ... Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 How do you know? As far as I know he's still in business. I know based on the facts with respect to the one time he ran a publicly traded company for his benefit rather than for the benefit of the shareholders: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-market-disaster-2015-07-22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) I know based on the facts with respect to the one time he ran a publicly traded company for his benefit rather than for the benefit of the shareholders: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/donald-trump-was-a-stock-market-disaster-2015-07-22 What's different in politics? What politician running now, isn't in it for their own benefit? Clinton? Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msj Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Nothing wrong with benefitting oneself. The problem with Trump is that he benefits himself while not benefitting others. Or perhaps even benefits himself at the expense of others. In this case, as a businessman who supposedly is supposed to be great at business, he has a public track record of being exceptionally bad at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) Nothing wrong with benefitting oneself. The problem with Trump is that he benefits himself while not benefitting others. Or perhaps even benefits himself at the expense of others. In this case, as a businessman who supposedly is supposed to be great at business, he has a public track record of being exceptionally bad at it. How do you know others didn't benefit at all? Assumption doesn't make it necessarily true, either. Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 How do you know others didn't benefit at all? Assumption doesn't make it necessarily true, either. Agreed....The Trump Organization LLC is a real business concern with subsidiaries that employ more than 20,000 people and has annual revenues estimated to be in excess of $10 billion USD. http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/03/news/economy/donald-trump-jobs-created/ Trump has certainly created more jobs than The Right Honourable Justin P. J. Trudeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Trump has certainly created more jobs than The Right Honourable Justin P. J. Trudeau. I will be the greatest jobs president that God ever created. by the by: no major U.S. company has filed for Chapter 11 more than Trump's casino empire in the last 30 years... more bankruptcies than The Right Honourable Justin P. J. Trudeau has filed I have used the laws of this country, the bankruptcy chapter laws, to do a great job for my company, for myself, for my employees, for my family . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) by the by: no major U.S. company has filed for Chapter 11 more than Trump's casino empire in the last 30 years... more bankruptcies than The Right Honourable Justin P. J. Trudeau has filed . What's wrong if Trump had used the bankruptcy chapter laws? I'd assume that law is in place for such purpose, is it not? And perhaps there is a different ball-game for big-time investors like Trump - to encourage big investing! So he uses a safety net that's in place for big business. Why shouldn't he? That would be like you demonizing people who'd repeatedly drawn on EI or welfare for losing their jobs. As long as he's not breaking any laws and committing any crimes......what's the problem? Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Macadoo Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 What's wrong if Trump had used the bankruptcy chapter laws? I'd assume that law is in place for such purpose, is it not? And perhaps there is a different ball-game for big-time investors like Trump - to encourage big investing! So he uses a safety net that's in place for big business. Why shouldn't he? That would be like you demonizing people who'd repeatedly drawn on EI or welfare for losing their jobs. As long as he's not breaking any laws and committing any crimes......what's the problem? You mean you'd vote for a logger from Miramichi as PM if he collected pogey every season? That's mighty turn the other cheek of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) You mean you'd vote for a logger from Miramichi as PM if he collected pogey every season? That's mighty turn the other cheek of you. Eh? How did you come to that? Anyway....never mind. Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 What's wrong if Trump had used the bankruptcy chapter laws? I'd assume that law is in place for such purpose, is it not? And perhaps there is a different ball-game for big-time investors like Trump - to encourage big investing! So he uses a safety net that's in place for big business. Why shouldn't he? That would be like you demonizing people who'd repeatedly drawn on EI or welfare for losing their jobs. As long as he's not breaking any laws and committing any crimes......what's the problem? It does speak to his business acumen and in a somewhat different tone than the bluster he'd like us to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) It does speak to his business acumen and in a somewhat different tone than the bluster he'd like us to believe. I don't think so. A lot of businesses fail, and not too many manage to bounce back the way he did. You may not agree that he should use a designated law to protect business people, but that's just what such law is designed for. His know-how to navigate around difficult times speak of his business acumen. He's still a big time employer, is he not? A CNNMoney analysis calculates at least 34,000 jobs attributable to the Donald. It's not the most straightforward calculation. His company, The Trump Organization, is private, so it does not have to disclose information publicly about how much money it makes or how many people it employs. His campaign didn't give a specific figure either. CNNMoney turned to PrivCo, which researches and tracks privately-held companies. According to PrivCo, the Trump Organization has 22,450 employees and brought in $9.5 billion in annual revenue last year. But that's not the whole picture. There are likely other jobs that might not exist without Trump. Economists call this the "multiplier effect." New York's Broadway shows are a good example. Visitors who come to see shows, may stay at least a night or two at New York City hotels and spend money at restaurants and stores. So any analysis on the economic and job impact of Broadway takes into account more than just ticket sales and employment of actors, singers and stage hands. The same holds true for Trump's resorts and hotels. A more generous estimate would be to view the Trump Organization as a financial services or management company. Then the employment multiplier would be 3. That would bring jobs attributable to Trump to 67,000. http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/03/news/economy/donald-trump-jobs-created/ Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) CBC is a mouthpiece for the Liberals. It's always been that... And yet its board of directors are filled with Conservatives...imagine that. Edited March 27, 2016 by jazzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) And yet its board of directors are filled with Conservatives...imagine that. I don't know. You got a source to support that? Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 I don't know. You got a source to support that? https://www.friends.ca/blog-post/11728 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betsy Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) https://www.friends.ca/blog-post/11728 The CBC I talk about stands for CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION, not Conservative Broadcasting Corp. We're not talking about the same thing. Allegations of liberal bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Broadcasting_Corporation CBC Exposed http://cbcexposed.blogspot.ca/ Okay, we better get back to Trump. Edited March 27, 2016 by betsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 (edited) The CBC I talk about stands for CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION, not Conservative Broadcasting Corp. We're not talking about the same thing. This might clear it up for you. Scroll down to appointments and compare to the site I listed. http://appointments.gc.ca/prflOrg.asp?OrgID=CBC〈=eng Edited March 27, 2016 by jazzer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 So he uses a safety net that's in place for big business. Why shouldn't he? As long as he's not breaking any laws and committing any crimes......what's the problem? ya ya, apparently he used that "safety net" 4 times. When challenged on his business acumen, when asked if he has any personal decision making responsibility for those 4 bankruptcy filings, he simply says he just "used the system" available to him. Just as he's done in regards to outsourcing jobs - big time! He has the gall to denigrate companies for sending jobs beyond U.S. borders, while claiming he did/does so by simply "using the system" available to him... hypocrite - yes? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 After all, Cruz is a Canadian. The CBC's "live coverage" of party primaries in a foreign country is quite remarkable. no - as you've already been apprised: Ted Cruz's Canadectomy was complete on May 15th, 2014, the date after the issuance by Canada, per his request to renounce his Canadian citizenship, of a Certificate of the Renunciation of Canadian Citizenship: "Subsection 9(3) of the Canadian Citizenship Act provides that the applicant ceases to be a citizen after the expiration of the day on which the certificate was issued, or such later date as the certificate may specify." . . no - although "laughter is the best medicine", the CBC still just does 'cut-away... snapshot' segments to bring the American primary/caucus circus to Canadians. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 As long as he's not breaking any laws and committing any crimes......what's the problem?Sounds like you've never provided someone with credit just before they declared bankruptcy as a legal business strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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