bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) Lived and worked in Quebec for years. Some voters there wish to protect their French heritage. Never saw anything there approaching anything close to the nonsense we have seen from Trump. As I stated, I guess there are those who are "proud" of such things. The point being that some Canadians embrace the very same kind of rhetoric and speech when it serves their political agenda (e.g. French National Front). Nothing different about Trump or his supporters. The VP selection process will be consistent with Trump/GOP objectives. Edited March 25, 2016 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 The point being that some Canadians embrace the very same kind of rhetoric and speech when it serves their political agenda. Nothing different about Trump or his supporters. The VP selection process will be consistent with Trump/GOP objectives.I think if you tried anything close to what Trump has displayed in Canada, you would be laughed off the stage. And once again, there is a lot of talk from the pundits that Trump/GOP objectives are strongly divergent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I think if you tried anything close to what Trump has displayed in Canada, you would be laughed off the stage. And once again, there is a lot of talk from the pundits that Trump/GOP objectives are strongly divergent. The Democrats have also been strongly divergent in the past...see 1968 Democrat Convention. It's called "big tent" politics, and there will always be the forming - storming - norming process on the way to a general election. Canada's politics are for Canada, not the United States, but Canadians pay far more attention to American political and election process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 ... and there will always be the forming - storming - norming process on the way to a general election. Canada's politics are for Canada, not the United States, but Canadians pay far more attention to American political and election process. just when does your described "norming process" begin for Trump leading Republicans? Most Canadians could care less about American primary/caucus pursuits and if watching it at all, it's for the laughs in watching the Republican circus acts... or, again, rubbernecking the car-wreck in progress. Speaking of (claimed) Americans paying attention to the Canadian political/election process - good on ya for picking up any slack! . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OftenWrong Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Canadians are Republicans now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 There are some things worse that killing NAFTA...how Cruz staring WW3? Both, Clinton and the Bush-backed Cruz, are out to stop Trump and they have other Billionaires that don't want Trump to reach the White House and they are getting really dirty playing their spouses against each other. There is also reports out there saying that voter fraud on Clinton's side, especially in Arizona. Corruptions is alive and well in these elections too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Trump is actually not that dangerous in that the chances of him beating Clinton are remote, at best. Cruze is more dangerous in that he's sleazy and crazy but might actually beat Clinton, who is merely sleazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Lived and worked in Quebec for years. Some voters there wish to protect their French heritage. Never saw anything there approaching anything close to the nonsense we have seen from Trump. As I stated, I guess there are those who are "proud" of such things. We hear things from major personalities in Quebec government, media and academia all the time which rival or beat any of the nastiness Trump has espoused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 IF it comes down to Clinton and Trump, I'd make sure there no funny business is going on with voting, like stopping certain people from voting or those corrupt voting machines, that can change a person vote or erase it and wipe it clean so no one can tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 We hear things from major personalities in Quebec government, media and academia all the time which rival or beat any of the nastiness Trump has espoused. I rather doubt that, but I will await your cites to support your comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 The Democrats have also been strongly divergent in the past...see 1968 Democrat Convention. It's called "big tent" politics, and there will always be the forming - storming - norming process on the way to a general election. Canada's politics are for Canada, not the United States, but Canadians pay far more attention to American political and election process. It's hard not to notice because the "process" seems to never end down there. It usually gets pretty boring due to that, but having a buffoon like Trump has perhaps attracted some attention from north of the border, however I think most of us are getting bored again. Maybe try the Canadian process-get r' done, and then get on with things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 It's hard not to notice because the "process" seems to never end down there. It usually gets pretty boring due to that, but having a buffoon like Trump has perhaps attracted some attention from north of the border, however I think most of us are getting bored again. Maybe try the Canadian process-get r' done, and then get on with things. Canadians consume a lot of American media, news or otherwise, by choice. Nobody makes them do it. That doesn't mean that Americans should should change their campaign process or length because it is too long. The U.S. is a republic with 10x Canada's population and 50+ states to grind through at three levels of government. It costs more and takes longer than Canada's adorably "historic" and "grueling" 100 day election cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Canadians are Republicans now? Canadians are everything that is wrong with Americans. Some around here have not learned that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Canadians consume a lot of American media, news or otherwise, by choice. Nobody makes them do it. That doesn't mean that Americans should should change their campaign process or length because it is too long. The U.S. is a republic with 10x Canada's population and 50+ states to grind through at three levels of government. It costs more and takes longer than Canada's adorably "historic" and "grueling" 100 day election cycle. I would say excruciatingly longer, and the costs, well, we reigned that in so super pacs can't buy and sell governments. Perhaps the fact Canadians consume foreign media as well as their own, is what Trudeau was referring to by saying Americans should learn more about the rest of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 I would say excruciatingly longer, and the costs, well, we reigned that in so super pacs can't buy and sell governments. Perhaps the fact Canadians consume foreign media as well as their own, is what Trudeau was referring to by saying Americans should learn more about the rest of the world. Americans consume plenty of foreign media, but are not dependent on foreign network content the way that Canada is. Campaign financing and process in the United States is driven by free speech and election mechanics in a republic that permits its citizens to participate in direct selection of the head-of-state. There is no "reigning" monarch head-of-state far across the ocean, not even for Vice President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Americans consume plenty of foreign media, but are not dependent on foreign network content the way that Canada is. Campaign financing and process in the United States is driven by free speech and election mechanics in a republic that permits its citizens to participate in direct selection of the head-of-state. There is no "reigning" monarch head-of-state far across the ocean, not even for Vice President. I think Canadians may opt for American TV entertainment as there is of course more available due to the population differences. However for media I think we tend to get it from Canadian sources, simply because it is not trying to be entertainment also. Now, as to picking the head of state in America, perhaps you need a primer on the electoral college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Canadians consume a lot of American media, news or otherwise, by choice. Nobody makes them do it. That doesn't mean that Americans should should change their campaign process or length because it is too long. The U.S. is a republic with 10x Canada's population and 50+ states to grind through at three levels of government. It costs more and takes longer than Canada's adorably "historic" and "grueling" 100 day election cycle. Are you suggesting that the process leading up to a presidential candidate can't be shortened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Are you suggesting that the process leading up to a presidential candidate can't be shortened? No, I am suggesting that it won't be shortened just because some Canadians tire of watching American election campaign coverage concurrent with their usual voracious appetite for other American media. 'Tis the season for lots of U.S. campaign ads too...so watch 100% Canadian content instead if it is so bothersome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 No, I am suggesting that it won't be shortened just because some Canadians tire of watching American election campaign coverage concurrent with their usual voracious appetite for other American media. 'Tis the season for lots of U.S. campaign ads too...so watch 100% Canadian content instead if it is so bothersome. That's not an intelligent response. Do you think the process can be shortened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 That's not an intelligent response. Do you think the process can be shortened? Canadians FEAR Donald Trump....how intelligent is that ? See > Topic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Canadians FEAR Donald Trump....how intelligent is that ? See > Topic Got it. I'm off topic and it's a cop out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Perhaps those Canadians that fear Trump are those Americans that moved to Canada for a better peaceful life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoastRunner Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 No, I am suggesting that it won't be shortened just because some Canadians tire of watching American election campaign coverage concurrent with their usual voracious appetite for other American media. 'Tis the season for lots of U.S. campaign ads too...so watch 100% Canadian content instead if it is so bothersome. So you are willing to respond until you won't. Then you draw upon the op. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted March 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Perhaps those Canadians that fear Trump are those Americans that moved to Canada for a better peaceful life. Maybe, but far more Canadians have moved to the United States, with or without Trump...for a better life. I think Canadian snowbirds FEAR your falling loonie more than Donald Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotary Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Perhaps those Canadians that fear Trump are those Americans that moved to Canada for a better peaceful life. Just watch what happens if Trump happens to stumble into the nomination. Cape Breton property is already on the way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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