August1991 Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) I reckon that it won't happen. But then, in Europe, they pay a 20% VAT or more. Trudeau Jnr (Morneau?) may be tempted but I reckon that he won't. (Each 1% increase in the GST is about $5 or 6 billion more in revenue for federal bureaucrats.) ==== If the Montreal/Toronto (English/French) media start to talk about VAT, and how Canada's GST is low, then you know what is next... Edited December 22, 2015 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 To increase the GST has been talked about on the political news shows wondering IF the feds would do it. Harper cut it and it help the Tories go into a deficit which cost taxpayers more in interest, so IF it helps pay for the tx cuts, so be it, this has no winning solution either way for a government , if they do or don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Personally, I prefer a consumer tax over income tax. Since we all get the benefit of our tax dollars we should all contribute. Those who have more will spend more so that the tax will vary with income. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 What is going to happen when we just cant afford any more taxes. When is the madness going to stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 What is going to happen when we just cant afford any more taxes. When is the madness going to stop. Federal taxes are at their lowest level in 50 - 70 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironstone Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 When progressives go shopping,do you guys always look for the highest price for the same item? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 But Small C I live in ONT any savings that we got from harper was taken by the ONT libs. So we have a carbon tax and ONT is going to go ahead with it pension plan which will kill many small business and cost jobs. These people will just not listen, they are so horny for money they just don't care. And our hydro is going up another 10% on jan 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 On the other hand, for the next 3 years, Ontario's economy will grow at the second fastest rate in Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 On the other hand, for the next 3 years, Ontario's economy will grow at the second fastest rate in Canada. Is that going to be a positive number? Are you going to make a big dent in that $300 billion debt if interest rates flutter up a tad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Right now we have the BoC talking about the possibility of negative interest rates to stimulate the economy and others saying government should take more money from people's pockets by increasing the GST. It's enough to make your head spin. Clearly there is a lack of understanding here and a refusal to acknowledge that governments need to live within their means like everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Right now we have the BoC talking about the possibility of negative interest rates to stimulate the economy and others saying government should take more money from people's pockets by increasing the GST. It's enough to make your head spin. Clearly there is a lack of understanding here and a refusal to acknowledge that governments need to live within their means like everyone else. That is not the least bit 'progressive'. Get with the program or face re-education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Is that going to be a positive number? Are you going to make a big dent in that $300 billion debt if interest rates flutter up a tad? Growth is predicted to be near pre 2009 recession levels. Only BC will be at pre recession levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Clearly there is a lack of understanding here and a refusal to acknowledge that governments need to live within their means like everyone else. Is there a government anywhere on the planet actually doing this? Maybe what people are refusing to acknowledge is that it's impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 On the other hand, for the next 3 years, Ontario's economy will grow at the second fastest rate in Canada. Says who? Lol. Ontario's economy is literally in a free fall. Its shrinking rapidly and if anyone wants to deny that its foolish. Ontario is now a have not province and will remain that way for years to come. Manufacturing processes in Ontario have left and will continue to leave due to high taxes and wages. Slave labour easily replaces workers in Ontario elsewhere. Free trade with the pacific will cause as well short term loss for the next 5 to 10 years before Ontario and Canada readjust. In the long term it will do better but not short term. Ontario is turning into an envrionment of specialized technology that requires extended continuing and regular education followed by short term contracts for employees. The days of permanent work are over in Ontario. As the boomers die out their jobs are replaced with contracts to avoid medical cafe, benefits of any kind even paid vacations. To say Ontario's economy is growing is a crock. What has grown are part-time minimum wage temporary positions and contract positions. The stats are a joke that the provincial government uses. When carbon tax comes in as a new excuse to tax the remaining businesses, another devaluation and shrinkage and exoodus will begin. Look carefully The world sold itself out to India and China pollution and cheap abour as well as thid world cheap labour sources which Canada will now subsidize. We will pay a carbon tax to poor nations that the poor will never see, just corupt brutal dictators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Is there a government anywhere on the planet actually doing this? Maybe what people are refusing to acknowledge is that it's impossible. Its possible if you let me take over.I will start with you and your excessive manicures. Seriously, you are right There is not one nation that is not in a deficit spiral where the interest rate alone on the debt is so high the nation can balance it books. It does not exist. I challenge anyone to find such a country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Paid vacations and vacation pay are defined by the Canadian Labour Code and cannot be negotiated away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Growth is predicted to be near pre 2009 recession levels. Only BC will be at pre recession levels.Under the Ontario Liberals, pre 2009 recession levels is not very high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 22, 2015 Report Share Posted December 22, 2015 Rue - says the Conference Board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Souriquois Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Probably won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted December 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 (edited) Probably won't happen. More likely will happen. Around 2017, when this profligate federal government is facing deficits near $40 billion and needs the money. ===== Harper was hated because he said No. Hair? At present, Trudeau Jnr is loved because he says Yes. Edited December 29, 2015 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overthere Posted December 29, 2015 Report Share Posted December 29, 2015 Paid vacations and vacation pay are defined by the Canadian Labour Code and cannot be negotiated away. The Olden Days when there were employees..... The CLC is easily circumvented by hiring contractors, or in the case of Ontario employers just leave the province entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilber Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 The Olden Days when there were employees..... The CLC is easily circumvented by hiring contractors, or in the case of Ontario employers just leave the province entirely. CLC is nation wide and employees of contractors are covered by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 On the other hand, for the next 3 years, Ontario's economy will grow at the second fastest rate in Canada. Says who? The Ontario government? Pfft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 Rue - says the Conference Board. Next year comes a 15% increase in electricity rates, increased taxes, and information about how much additional taxes the Ontario Liberals are going to take in the form of carbon taxes, which will certainly not be encouraging business to expand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 CLC is nation wide That's incorrect. The Canada Labour Code covers only federally regulated workers. Each province has their own regulation for workers under their jurisdiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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