DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, WestCoastRunner said: A very good question. Start a thread. No...how would you fight terrorism? Or would you? Is there an acceptable number of casualties we as a culture can absorb and still accommodate Islam? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, DogOnPorch said: No...how would you fight terrorism? Or would you? Is there an acceptable number of casualties we as a culture can absorb and still accommodate Islam? Probably not...didn't work for Japan or Germany either. Now they are "accommodated". Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Probably not...didn't work for Japan or Germany either. Now they are "accommodated". Islam's defenders don't wish to admit it...but accommodation of Islam does mean a certain level of casualties among the Infidels. How much depends on how bold the Muslim community has become in fulfilling the Quran's mandates. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: Islam's defenders don't wish to admit it...but accommodation of Islam does mean a certain level of casualties among the Infidels. How much depends on how bold the Muslim community has become in fulfilling the Quran's mandates. I wonder if those Muslims suffer from "infidelophobia" ? 1 Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: I wonder if those Muslims suffer from "infidelophobia" ? The Quran devotes much of its time telling Muslims how to treat the Infidel. There is also Omar's Law...aka the Pact of Omar which details the concept of Jizya among the Peoples of the Book...allowing them to keep their faith in a minor status if they pay into an Islamic protection racket. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pact_of_Umar Cosa Nostra! Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Guest Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 23 minutes ago, Bob Macadoo said: OK so talk.....you seem to be reasonable. There are terrorists out there who proclaim that their islamic faith directs them to inflict pain on innocents in some irrational game of tit for tat that they may believe will get them some sort of elightenment in the afterlife. Now what? If I knew I would probably be able to charge for my services. Is there some rule that says one should have the solution before one discusses a problem? Why do you have an objection to calling a muslim terrorist a muslim? I really don't understand that at all.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, bcsapper said: If I knew I would probably be able to charge for my services. Is there some rule that says one should have the solution before one discusses a problem? Why do you have an objection to calling a muslim terrorist a muslim? I really don't understand that at all. Some would prefer absolute quiet as near as I can tell. No discussion of Islam at all. They seem to think Islam's aggressiveness is the result of modern Western bigotry. This does not explain why Charles Martel had the same problems with Islam...heh. 1 Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 59 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Islam allows extrajudicial killing under certain conditions...a huge departure from other religions. So does the White House. What religion do they follow?
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 For the history-challenged. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_conquest_of_Hispania https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours Had Tours been won by the Umayyads, all of Europe would have likely fallen to Islam...solving a lot of today's problems, eh?? Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Omni said: So does the White House. What religion do they follow? America envisaged allowing all religions to practice as equals. Admirable. Plus atheism isn't a crime. However, one of the young America's first conflicts was against the Islamic Barbary pirates who were busy raiding and taking slaves from Europe as well as from US shipping. So even back then...Islam = trouble. The USMC wrote a tune about it. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: America envisaged allowing all religions to practice as equals. Admirable. Plus atheism isn't a crime. However, one of the young America's first conflicts was against the Islamic Barbary pirates who were busy raiding and taking slaves from Europe as well as from US shipping. So even back then...Islam = trouble. The USMC wrote a tune about it. I didn't ask for a bunch BS deflection malarky, I asked a specific question re: extrajudicial killings.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, Omni said: I didn't ask for a bunch BS deflection malarky, I asked a specific question re: extrajudicial killings. Go ahead. Make my day. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Go ahead. Make my day. Yep, as expected. Thanks for playing.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 As for Islam: it is in Surah 5:32 We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors. Corruption in the Land = Fasad...as detailed earlier. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Omni said: Yep, as expected. Thanks for playing. A man has to know his limitations. Edited May 25, 2017 by DogOnPorch Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: A man has to know his limitations. And maybe you should focus yours back on the thread.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 Just now, Omni said: And maybe you should focus yours back on the thread. I accept your surrender. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: I accept your surrender. You're supposed to stop when you find yourself in a hole. But it's up to you.
Guest Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 58 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Some would prefer absolute quiet as near as I can tell. No discussion of Islam at all. They seem to think Islam's aggressiveness is the result of modern Western bigotry. This does not explain why Charles Martel had the same problems with Islam...heh. It is a puzzlement. Why do some people insist on pretending there is nothing wrong with Islam? I really have difficulty understanding that. It's so easy to show they are wrong. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
DogOnPorch Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It is a puzzlement. Why do some people insist on pretending there is nothing wrong with Islam? I really have difficulty understanding that. It's so easy to show they are wrong. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. It wasn't a one-off, either. Tours was just the first thwarted attempt for Islam to invade Europe. Spain had already fallen. Lepanto is still my favorite from a military history POV. A naval affair...freeing of slaves...do-or-die. Some of the first use of cannon aboard ships...it has it all. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lepanto Edited May 25, 2017 by DogOnPorch Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 2 hours ago, WestCoastRunner said: So calling out Muslims as terrorists is fighting terrorism? You are so hypocritical They actually don't understand it actually creates it.
dialamah Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 9 minutes ago, Omni said: They actually don't understand it actually creates it. Making enemies is easy. Making peace is hard.
Guest Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 24 minutes ago, Omni said: They actually don't understand it actually creates it. What would you suggest we call Muslim terrorists? Eric? Manuel?
Bob Macadoo Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 It doesn't solve anything it just allows you to look up from your navel to shake your fist at the sky. I'm not much into useless acts of desperation. If sitting around shooting fish in a barrel entertains you....'ave at 'er. 1 hour ago, bcsapper said: It is a puzzlement. Why do some people insist on pretending there is nothing wrong with Islam? I really have difficulty understanding that. It's so easy to show they are wrong. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
Bob Macadoo Posted May 25, 2017 Report Posted May 25, 2017 .....so muslim terrorists are a problem. Is the discussion over?
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