Argus Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 (edited) It's a testament to tvrexcitment surrounding the CPC leadership that everyone is discussing Liberals. By 'everyone' you mean the Liberals like you and Waldo who came onto this topic, right? Edited May 2, 2016 by Argus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted May 2, 2016 Report Share Posted May 2, 2016 By 'everyone' you mean the Liberals like you and Waldo who came onto this topic, right? Waldo can't have a discussion on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Waldo can't have a discussion on his own. He's done it many, many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 #IgnoreTrolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Anyways.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 As to infighting, of the potential leaders polled in your link, I would question if there would be "infighting" (Her support is representative across the country) and as polled leads the field, when included, in nearly every other category, with only O'Leary and to a lesser degree Mackay anywhere close.......to date, the only two declared candidates don't come anywhere near her in their own provinces..... let the infighting begin! Rona Ambrose made 'solemn vow' not to run for Tory leadership, Tony Clement says A former top Conservative cabinet minister — and a potential leadership candidate — says interim leader Rona Ambrose would damage her credibility among her caucus colleagues if she breaks her promise not to run for the permanent job. "I think Rona Ambrose has been very clear and she made a solemn vow prior to running for the interim leadership that she would not run for the leadership," Tony Clement said in a scrum Monday. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Seeing she continues to rule out a bid I doubt there'll be much infighting over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Seeing she continues to rule out a bid I doubt there'll be much infighting over this. Obviously at least one prominent CPC MP is concerned enough about it that he reminded Rona Ambrose publicly about her "solemn vow" not to run... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 (edited) She still has a lot of time ,to think about it. And trudeau is all about women, so let him attack her. Edited May 3, 2016 by PIK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 Obviously at least one prominent CPC MP is concerned enough about it that he reminded Rona Ambrose publicly about her "solemn vow" not to run...I don't understand what the big deal is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Squid Posted May 3, 2016 Report Share Posted May 3, 2016 I don't understand what the big deal is. I have no idea why an interim leader shouldn't be allowed to run for the leadership of the party. But the CPC make them take a "solemn vow" (sworn on a bible perhaps?) not to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
?Impact Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 I have no idea why an interim leader shouldn't be allowed to run for the leadership of the party. But the CPC make them take a "solemn vow" (sworn on a bible perhaps?) not to do so. The interim leader has the incumbent advantage, which is not insignificant. As long as it is done upfront, as was the case here, I see good reason to have an interim leader that will not go on to seek the leadership. The same should happen in municipal politics for interim appointments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted May 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ah. I didn't think of incumbent advantage. That's a good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 let the infighting begin! . What infighting? She's stated she is not interested in the job, so the infighting will be over what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 What infighting? She's stated she is not interested in the job, so the infighting will be over what? sure - if that's the case, why is there a move to "draft Rona"? Equally, if that's the case, why would highly likely candidate Tony Clement bother to emphasize publicly the "solemn vow" Rona took? certainly, there's never been a politician that vehemently, and repeatedly, stated "I will not run"... only to later... run - yes? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 sure - if that's the case, why is there a move to "draft Rona"? Equally, if that's the case, why would highly likely candidate Tony Clement bother to emphasize publicly the "solemn vow" Rona took? certainly, there's never been a politician that vehemently, and repeatedly, stated "I will not run"... only to later... run - yes? . Just because some in caucus think she should be able to run (and some want ti support her if she does) and some think the rules should stay as they are doesn't necessarily mean there is infighting. Of course Tony Clement would be opposed to her being able to enter the race, as he stated. They might be fighting but there's no evidence of that as of yet. You can disagree on issues without fighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIK Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 Tony should just call it quits and go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 sure - if that's the case, why is there a move to "draft Rona"? Equally, if that's the case, why would highly likely candidate Tony Clement bother to emphasize publicly the "solemn vow" Rona took? certainly, there's never been a politician that vehemently, and repeatedly, stated "I will not run"... only to later... run - yes? . So your assumption here is that despite saying otherwise, Rona actually plans (or planned) to run for the leadership? You ability of projection is most impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldo Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 So your assumption here is that despite saying otherwise, Rona actually plans (or planned) to run for the leadership? You ability of projection is most impressive it must be as impressive as that of the group of Conservative MPs with the "draft Rona' move... or as impressive as that of Tony Clement coming out publicly to forcefully remind Rona that she gave a "solemn vow" not to run. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Anyways, why are we still talking about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpankyMcFarland Posted May 7, 2016 Report Share Posted May 7, 2016 Anyways, why are we still talking about this? Because there seems to be a suspicion that Ambrose may run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newfoundlander Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Because there seems to be a suspicion that Ambrose may run. There's really no suspicion, she's ruled it out time and time again. There are people pushing for her to run, but at this point she's not allowed to run and continues to say she's not interested. I have yet to see any reports that suggest she's considering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 There are people pushing for her to run, but at this point she's not allowed to run and continues to say she's not interested. Maybe not this time around but who knows in the future. The interim leadership is the perfect learning ground should she want the leadership at some future time in her political career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 I have no idea why an interim leader shouldn't be allowed to run for the leadership of the party. But the CPC make them take a "solemn vow" (sworn on a bible perhaps?) not to do so. Don't be silly... it's in the rules so they would have to hold a convention to change the rules. She will stick to her promise, anything said on here is strictly speculation and innuendo. Neither is there any 'infighting', more innuendo and speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Don't be silly... it's in the rules so they would have to hold a convention to change the rules. She will stick to her promise, anything said on here is strictly speculation and innuendo. Neither is there any 'infighting', more innuendo and speculation. Exactly, I can't see it happening........and I would like and be fine with a rule change to allow Rona to run, and based on the above polling, so too would a great many other Tories. There is plenty of time and there will be many factors between now and then that could help one candidate over another..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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