SpankyMcFarland Posted April 22, 2016 Report Posted April 22, 2016 Political leadership is a bit like the decathlon - there's a minimum level you have to reach in each discipline. Looking the part matters. Kellie Leitch does not look or sound like a leader. She's an excellent surgeon by all accounts and a good organizer but a party leader she will never be.
SpankyMcFarland Posted April 22, 2016 Report Posted April 22, 2016 Ivison is a Liberal shill? That pales beside den Tandt being called a Liberal. Ivison is half reasonable on occasion and has a sense of humour too.
jacee Posted April 22, 2016 Report Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Political leadership is a bit like the decathlon - there's a minimum level you have to reach in each discipline. Looking the part matters. Kellie Leitch does not look or sound like a leader. She's an excellent surgeon by all accounts and a good organizer but a party leader she will never be.None of them do.It's a most lackluster crew. This should be Jim Prentice's moment. . Edited April 22, 2016 by jacee
The_Squid Posted April 22, 2016 Report Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) MP Kellie Leitch backtracks on her CPC barbaric cultural practices snitch line announcement... said she did it for the children!! There were tears.... Her campaign manager was busted for drunk driving... apparently he needs help.... so why did she hire an alcoholic for a campaign manager in the first place?? She said marijuana is very dangerous ... more dangerous than smoking cigarettes. I guess she thinks alcohol is fine though.... even though drunk drivers (like her campaign manager) kill more people in one year than pot ever has! Edited April 22, 2016 by The_Squid
waldo Posted April 22, 2016 Report Posted April 22, 2016 Political leadership is a bit like the decathlon - there's a minimum level you have to reach in each discipline. Looking the part matters. Kellie Leitch does not look or sound like a leader. with this gem as the backdrop: Barbaric Cultural Practices Snitch Line! on P&P today; Rosemary Barton's full interview with Kellie Leitch - wow! And she's supposed to be a contender? .
Newfoundlander Posted April 22, 2016 Report Posted April 22, 2016 MP Kellie Leitch backtracks on her CPC barbaric cultural practices snitch line announcement... said she did it for the children!! There were tears.... Her campaign manager was busted for drunk driving... apparently he needs help.... so why did she hire an alcoholic for a campaign manager in the first place?? She said marijuana is very dangerous ... more dangerous than smoking cigarettes. I guess she thinks alcohol is fine though.... even though drunk drivers (like her campaign manager) kill more people in one year than pot ever has! Maybe she didn't know he had a drinking problem? Sounds like he was a well functioning alcoholic.
cybercoma Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Posted April 22, 2016 MP Kellie Leitch backtracks on her CPC barbaric cultural practices snitch line announcement... said she did it for the children!! There were tears.... Her campaign manager was busted for drunk driving... apparently he needs help.... so why did she hire an alcoholic for a campaign manager in the first place?? She said marijuana is very dangerous ... more dangerous than smoking cigarettes. I guess she thinks alcohol is fine though.... even though drunk drivers (like her campaign manager) kill more people in one year than pot ever has! Let's be honest. She's a lapdog. Her campaign manager was probably assigned to her by the party.
cybercoma Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Posted April 22, 2016 Maybe she didn't know he had a drinking problem? Sounds like he was a well functioning alcoholic.Maybe he doesn't have a drinking problem and was just stupid enough to drive drunk.
Newfoundlander Posted April 23, 2016 Report Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Maybe he doesn't have a drinking problem and was just stupid enough to drive drunk. He has stated he has been struggling with a drinking problem for several years. He has received help for it in the past and is going to again. Edited April 23, 2016 by Newfoundlander
wulf42 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Posted April 24, 2016 I truly hope Peter MacKay returns as the leader of the Conservatives.
jacee Posted April 24, 2016 Report Posted April 24, 2016 I truly hope Peter MacKay returns as the leader of the Conservatives. Will he return in a helicopter? .
Argus Posted April 24, 2016 Report Posted April 24, 2016 I truly hope Peter MacKay returns as the leader of the Conservatives. Why? Because he's not conservative? "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
The_Squid Posted April 24, 2016 Report Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Why? Because he's not conservative?What makes him "not conservative"?It seems like you want to shrink the party to a few hardcore social conservatives... I am all for it, but it will make it an unelectable party. Edited April 24, 2016 by The_Squid
Argus Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) What makes him "not conservative"? It seems like you want to shrink the party to a few hardcore social conservatives... I am all for it, but it will make it an unelectable party. It seems that way to you, huh? I suppose it hasn't crossed your mind that I'm not a social conservative? No, of course not. I'm on the 'enemies' list for not joining in the progressive groupthink, a heretic and traitor to humanity fighting against the only true wisdom of the collective. So of course, I must only be in support of other 'extremists' and 'fringe' people, for all the great mass of the proletariat agrees with you. Go take a leap. Edited April 25, 2016 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
The_Squid Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 (edited) Lol Ranting about unwed mothers and how detrimental to society they are is pretty much textbook social conservative nonsense. What un-conservative things would exclude McKay from the leadership? Edited April 25, 2016 by The_Squid
Argus Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 Lol Ranting about unwed mothers and how detrimental to society they are is pretty much textbook social conservative nonsense. No, it isn't. Social conservatives would complain about the morality of it. I don't give a damn about the morality of it. I'm talking about the financial aspects, and the cost to society in those terms. And even then only in the context of how progressives can think they're doing a good thing, by eliminating the 'shame' element, while actually doing something harmful to society. What un-conservative things would exclude McKay from the leadership? I'm unaware of any conservative beliefs McKay possesses, like smaller government, for example, less intrusive government, a believe in individual self-reliance wherever possible, as well as individual responsibility, a stronger military, law and order, paying down the debt. etc. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Newfoundlander Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 So because you're unaware that makes him not a conservative?
eyeball Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 So because you're unaware that makes him not a conservative? Heck, I'm a conservative according to much of what Argus has described. A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted April 25, 2016 Report Posted April 25, 2016 So because you're unaware that makes him not a conservative? He's always been a red tory, even within the PC party. The PC party died because they abandoned conservatism. "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Bryan Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 The PC party died because they abandoned conservatism. Truth. The lack of an actual conservative option is the reason that the Reform Party was founded.
Guest Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) The PC party died because they abandoned conservatism. The PC party died because of the GST. Even though it was a necessity. Edited April 26, 2016 by Guest
Newfoundlander Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 He's always been a red tory, even within the PC party. The PC party died because they abandoned conservatism. So a Red Tory isn't a conservative?
Bryan Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 So a Red Tory isn't a conservative? A Red Tory is a liberal wearing a blue suit. People don't always join the party most closely aligned with their beliefs (and sometimes they change one without changing the other). The are conservatives in the Liberal Party, there are liberals in the Conservative Party.
Newfoundlander Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 (edited) A Red Tory is a liberal wearing a blue suit. People don't always join the party most closely aligned with their beliefs (and sometimes they change one without changing the other). The are conservatives in the Liberal Party, there are liberals in the Conservative Party. Enlightening. So what's a conservative? What is it that a Red Tory believes in that's not conservative? Edited April 26, 2016 by Newfoundlander
Queenmandy85 Posted April 26, 2016 Report Posted April 26, 2016 Argus wrote: "I'm unaware of any conservative beliefs McKay possesses, like smaller government, for example, less intrusive government, a believe in individual self-reliance wherever possible, as well as individual responsibility, a stronger military, law and order, paying down the debt. etc." I don't see how you can have a stronger military and still have a smaller government, less intrusive government, and pay down the debt. A strong military requires a massive increase in taxes, conscription and government control (not ownership) of industry. I would like a strong military but Canadians do not agree. They do not want to make the sacrifice. A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
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