Moonlight Graham Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 I'll believe whatever the f*** I want. Edited by Michael Hardner, Today, 10:57 AM. profanity Michael, wasn't sure, is that a rule, "no profanity" on MLW? I didn't read it in the rules. If we do use profanity, should we/can we "bleep it out" like above? It's an interesting balance this board tries to maintain, trying to keep this a place of scholarly, civil discussion while also keeping a high amount of free speech. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 There was, I think, such a rule at one time. I don't see it there now. I used to delete any word that couldn't be heard on prime time TV, and now I only do it for a few words, such as the f-bomb. I just don't think it's necessary to use it, and it can lead arguments down into an emotional quagmire, but Charles can let me/us know what it should be. Thanks for the feedback MG. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 What words couldn't be heard on prime time TV...in Canada ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 What words couldn't be heard on prime time TV...in Canada ? The Beachcombers didn't have any swearing as far as I remember. Although Relic looked like he was holding back. I don't know about the new shows. I'm old. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeNumber Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 The Beachcombers didn't have any swearing as far as I remember. Although Relic looked like he was holding back. I don't know about the new shows. I'm old. South Park had an episode where they set the record for the amount of times sh-- is said in a single show a couple years back. Primetime TV holds little back these days. Quote “Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find your way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”― Bruce Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Primetime TV holds little back these days. That's cable, I'm talking about network TV. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Network TV used to allow "f*****" but I don't think it does anymore. I also think they used to bleep "b*****" and "a**"" but now you can get away with it. I doubt PBS still plays the Fawlty Towers where the Major goes on about "n******". Edited July 1, 2015 by BubberMiley Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Imagine watching Deadwood on Network TV. I once watched Glengarry Glen Ross on Network TV. It was hilarious. Al Pacino calling Kevin Spacey a "goof", while his lips said something completely different. Edited July 1, 2015 by bcsapper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 The Beachcombers didn't have any swearing as far as I remember. Although Relic looked like he was holding back. I don't know about the new shows. I'm old. Doesn't the CRTC or broadcasting association have such a list defined ? The U.S. FCC and National Association of Broadcasters had a well defined list of "Seven Words" that could not be used on television, made famous by George Carlin over 40 years ago. That standard has since gone by the wayside. Since this is Canada (cough cough), I would presume that a different protocol is followed (after all, can't be like those 'merkins). Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Since this is Canada (cough cough), I would presume that a different protocol is followed (after all, can't be like those 'merkins).Wrong. This is MLW and the protocol is coughed out by mod staff. Imagine walking into your local Metro store and forgetting about how Dominion ran the gig. How about this? Ignore the profanity, edit it out yourselves and move on like it never existed: I'll believe whatever I want. Exactly. Passive aggressive arguments shouldn't change that for any of us. Here is a simple rule, folks: Talk like as if you were talking to your mother. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Here is a simple rule, folks: Talk like as if you were talking to your mother. Bad idea....you have never met my mother. She likes profanity...and lots of it. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Bad idea....you have never met my mother. She likes profanity...and lots of it.That is fine.... so do I but... it is not the only idea. Talk the way you would want to hear your future son-in-law talk to your daughter. Is that a better idea?? How do you know I have never met your mother? Edited July 1, 2015 by Charles Anthony added query Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 What words couldn't be heard on prime time TV...in Canada ? Almost nothing. CBC drops F-bombs in prime-time from time to time. Censoring words is on its way out as a social convention. They're just combinations of letters, and sounds you make with your mouth. The idea that certain ones are forbidden is ridiculously old-fashioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 The idea that certain ones are forbidden is ridiculously old-fashioned.Old and fashion are relative. Talk like you were talking to your future mother-in-law (HINT: She is older than you.) before her husband agrees to give you her daughter's hand in marriage. Does that help? How about talking like you were on a 1st date? Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 1, 2015 Report Share Posted July 1, 2015 Old and fashion are relative. Talk like you were talking to your future mother-in-law (HINT: She is older than you.) before her husband agrees to give you her daughter's hand in marriage. Does that help? How about talking like you were on a 1st date? People restrict their words on most online forums far more than they ever would in any of those situations, or just about any other real conversation -- it's an artificial construct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted July 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Here is a simple rule, folks: Talk like as if you were talking to your mother. I hate my mother. Just kidding. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I hate my mother. Just kidding. I love my mom. My mother-in-law on the other hand... Lets just say I've banned her from my house, and I haven't gone over to hers in several years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I loved both my Mum and my Mother in Law. Just lucky, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I think an open discussion requires the ability to use any words that we choose. I've always felt that censorship of the offensive was a slippery slope. It appears to be getting more slippery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 I think an open discussion requires the ability to use any words that we choose. I've always felt that censorship of the offensive was a slippery slope. It appears to be getting more slippery.But then you're one of those people who confuses criticism with censorship. Quote "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions." --Thomas Jefferson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Anthony Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Avoid 4-letter words that either directly or indirectly refer to genitalia or genital action. If there is still any mystery, send us a PM and we will send you that list leaving the debate to you and your own. It appears to be getting more slippery.LOL I realize this may still be a debatable/controversial/offensive rule for some folks but suffice to say, that list is only 3 or 4 words long. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 But then you're one of those people who confuses criticism with censorship. Deleting posts and words is not criticism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Old and fashion are relative. Talk like you were talking to your future mother-in-law (HINT: She is older than you.) before her husband agrees to give you her daughter's hand in marriage. Does that help? How about talking like you were on a 1st date? Do you spend a lot of time arguing about politics on first dates? Talking politics is an entirely different and more adversarial type of discussion than one engages in with mothers in law or dates. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 Avoid 4-letter words that either directly or indirectly refer to genitalia or genital action. If there is still any mystery, send us a PM and we will send you that list leaving the debate to you and your own. LOL I realize this may still be a debatable/controversial/offensive rule for some folks but suffice to say, that list is only 3 or 4 words long. How about what bulls and horses leave behind in the paddock? Seems to me I've gotten at least one complaint from you for using such terms in the past. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted July 2, 2015 Report Share Posted July 2, 2015 How about talking like you were on a 1st date? Most of us aren't on our first date here. I'm sure you can appreciate the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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