Parenting By Smacking

[Big Guy]

One of the incidents that came out of the Baltimore riots was the way a mother treated her teenaged son. Apparently she was watching TV and spotted him as part of the demonstration. She quickly went to the site and reacted;

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/28/us/baltimore-riot-mom-smacks-son/

Is this good parenting or bad parenting?

Edited April 29, 2015 by Big Guy

[Hydraboss]

That's smart parenting.

[Boges]

Did this really need another thread?

[Wilber]

Damn good parenting. He will never forget this and she might have saved his life. Too bad more mothers of mask wearing little vandals aren't around to smack them upside the head.

[eyeball]

She's certainly proven how a little violence can in fact be a very effective way of making a very large point.

[bush_cheney2004]

She's certainly proven how a little violence can in fact be a very effective way of making a very large point.

Nothing "little" about it....violent discipline is a cultural tradition in many households, particularly single parent African American families. The last thing this mother needs is another headache from her son going out rioting or looting. Smack that ass !!

[eyeball]

It's telling though how far a parent feels they need to go to drill the cop-talk into their kids.

Is she really teaching him discipline or just desperately saving him from a fate much worse than her? I think it's the latter myself. I can't shake the sense that discipline in the context of your normal posting style means that the state could use more parents like her to get their kids to get with it's program.

[Mighty AC]

It's telling though how far a parent feels they need to go to drill the cop-talk into their kids.

Is she really teaching him discipline or just desperately saving him from a fate much worse than her? I think it's the latter myself.

Good point. I could probably riot and act like a dangerous, angry ass and end up with a fine or misdemeanor. However, a black man has an increased chance of being shot. That mother not only has to deal with the anger of seeing her son behaving badly, but also the fear of losing him to a police bullet.

[bush_cheney2004]

...Is she really teaching him discipline or just desperately saving him from a fate much worse than her? I think it's the latter myself. I can't shake the sense that discipline in the context of your normal posting style means that the state could use more parents like her to get their kids to get with it's program.

That's right...many people cheered for that mother calling out her son and smacking him upside the head. African American families are often criticized for the lack of parental supervision and support, but this parent was giving it in spades. It is very common for mothers (or fathers) in such a scenario to open up a can of whupp-ass on a disobedient child.

I don't know what y'all do in hug-a-thug Canada, but down here you might just get your ass beat up by mom.

[Argus]

If her parenting skills were all that great the kid would not have been out in a balaclava eager to riot and burn stuff to begin with.

[bush_cheney2004]

If her parenting skills were all that great the kid would not have been out in a balaclava eager to riot and burn stuff to begin with.

He didn't riot in Vancouver, so I guess she did just fine.

[Black Dog]

It's telling though how far a parent feels they need to go to drill the cop-talk into their kids.

Is she really teaching him discipline or just desperately saving him from a fate much worse than her? I think it's the latter myself. I can't shake the sense that discipline in the context of your normal posting style means that the state could use more parents like her to get their kids to get with it's program.

She told media that she didn't want her son to be another Freddie Gray.

[eyeball]

What she didn't tell media is that she's promoting submission to the police or the state. Given her colourful language I suspect she's probably had a few choice words for the police at times. Maybe her son interpreted and acted on those a little to freely. There has been the odd occasion I've had reason to think I might have instilled a little to much disrespect for authority in my own kids, but that said, they're all doing well enough and don't have criminal records so maybe I struck the right balance after all. I think the most important thing to teach them, aside from looking both ways, is don't get caught.

Edited April 29, 2015 by eyeball

[Shady]

What she didn't tell media is that she's promoting submission to the police or the state. Given her colourful language I suspect she's probably had a few choice words for the police at times. Maybe her son interpreted and acted on those a little to freely. There has been the odd occasion I've had reason to think I might have instilled a little to much disrespect for authority in my own kids, but that said, they're all doing well enough and don't have criminal records so maybe I struck the right balance after all. I think the most important thing to teach them, aside from looking both ways, is don't get caught.

So not wanting her son to participate in violence and criminal activity is promoting submission? That's absurd. Regardless, your kids are probably White, so you're not risking all that much by teaching them disrespect. Although it is bad parenting. Perhaps if your kids were at a greater risk from the criminal justice system you might feel differently. #HowBraveOfYou

Edited April 29, 2015 by Shady

[Black Dog]

What she didn't tell media is that she's promoting submission to the police or the state.

Nah she just doesn't want her son getting killed by some jumped up cracker with a badge. Pretty practical parenting IMO.

So not wanting her son to participate in violence and criminal activity is promoting submission? That's absurd. Regardless, your kids are probably White, so you're not risking all that much by teaching them disrespect. Although it is bad parenting. Perhaps if your kids were at a greater risk from the criminal justice system you might feel differently. #HowBraveOfYou

Interesting and revealing word choice, shame it was an error and not a glimmer of awareness peeking through the cloud cover of proud ignorance.

[bush_cheney2004]

What she didn't tell media is that she's promoting submission to the police or the state.

Wise advice....or you might end up dead...like in Baltimore, Toronto, or the Vancouver airport.

[eyeball]

So not wanting her son to participate in violence and criminal activity is promoting submission? That's absurd.

I'm glad you think so. I've been getting the impression her actions are being interpreted in distinctly different ways.

Regardless, your kids are probably White, so you're not risking all that much by teaching them disrespect. Although it is bad parenting. Perhaps if your kids were at a greater risk from the criminal justice system you might feel differently. #HowBraveOfYou

Not instilling a healthy sense of irreverence in one's kids and especially towards government, is as irresponsible as withholding vaccines or 'exposing' them to environmental deficit syndrome.

[Big Guy]

See another thread within this issue that I have commented on - "How should parents discipline children".

Is smacking somebody on camera then considered good parenting by those who oppose corporal punishment?

[Topaz]

That is not true, ALL kids are different, some can be talk to and some just won't listen and with every generation, society get worse.

[cybercoma]

She's certainly proven how a little violence can in fact be a very effective way of making a very large point.

I see what you did there.

[cybercoma]

So not wanting her son to participate in violence and criminal activity is promoting submission?

What's more violent: murdering an unarmed person or breaking windows?

[Shady]

What's more violent: murdering an unarmed person or breaking windows?

Unarmed is irrelevant. What was that person doing to get arrested, and sustain fatal injuries? Regardless, a mother not wanting her son to participate in violence and criminal activity isn't promoting submission. It's promoting common sense, logic and reason.

[GostHacked]

Unarmed is irrelevant. What was that person doing to get arrested, and sustain fatal injuries? Regardless, a mother not wanting her son to participate in violence and criminal activity isn't promoting submission. It's promoting common sense, logic and reason.

Getting arrested should not get you killed.

Edited April 30, 2015 by GostHacked

[cybercoma]

Unarmed is irrelevant. What was that person doing to get arrested, and sustain fatal injuries? Regardless, a mother not wanting her son to participate in violence and criminal activity isn't promoting submission. It's promoting common sense, logic and reason.

What's more violent, murdering an unarmed person or breaking some windows?

[Shady]

Getting arrested should not get you killed.

99.999999999% of the time, it doesn't. Unless one resists arrest. The your odds go down.