On Guard for Thee Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Mitt Romney derailed GOP hopes in 2012 with his self deportation chatter, now Trump is at the trough to do that this time around. Oh but he did say if elected he would ditch the mop. Quote
Argus Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Ultimately Trump running for the nomination doesn't hurt anybody except possibly Republicans. It has been noted that what Trump had to say about "Mexicans", which everyone knows meant "Latinos" was deliberately offensive and insulting. But what might hurt Republicans, Latinos being 17% of the population now, is that not one Republican candidate called him out for it. Not one disagreed with him. Not one said what he said was wrong. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
bush_cheney2004 Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 It wasn't wrong...Trump can say whatever the hell he wants. It's a free country ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cybercoma Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 It has been noted that what Trump had to say about "Mexicans", which everyone knows meant "Latinos" was deliberately offensive and insulting. But what might hurt Republicans, Latinos being 17% of the population now, is that not one Republican candidate called him out for it. Not one disagreed with him. Not one said what he said was wrong.And that's the thing. The foils are not being used as foils here. That's when they begin to define the party. Quote
cybercoma Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Trump can say whatever the hell he wants.Nobody said he couldn't. It wasn't wrong...And that's your racist and bigoted opinion. You get to have it, just like others get to judge you for it. Quote
Shady Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 Why does any candidate have to answer for another candidates actions? We're they even asked? For instance, Jeb Bush continues to champion immigration reform, campaigning in Hispanic in some cases. Why does he have to even acknowledge Trump? It's absurd. Quote
cybercoma Posted June 30, 2015 Report Posted June 30, 2015 (edited) Nobody said they have to, just that it's telling that they don't. Edited June 30, 2015 by cybercoma Quote
GostHacked Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 It wasn't wrong...Trump can say whatever the hell he wants. It's a free country ! And as the President of the United States, I speak for ALL Americans when I say ................. Quote
kimmy Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 You've heard the phrase "I won't even dignify that with a response." If somebody of the stature of Jeb Bush bothers to respond to a guy like Trump, then it might give the impression that Trump has a position that merits discussion. On the other hand, if nobody responds, it could create the impression that the candidates believe that it's politically disadvantageous to denounce Trump's views (ie, they believe there's actually a significant number of voters that they could alienate if they denounce Trump's comments.) It's a touchy subject for a lot of conservative voters. Recall Mitt Romney's attempts to tip-toe around the issue last time around with his inane comments regarding "self-deportation." Jeb Bush's Latino-friendly credentials aren't in doubt, but how many of the other candidates can say the same? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
WestCoastRunner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 You've heard the phrase "I won't even dignify that with a response." If somebody of the stature of Jeb Bush bothers to respond to a guy like Trump, then it might give the impression that Trump has a position that merits discussion. On the other hand, if nobody responds, it could create the impression that the candidates believe that it's politically disadvantageous to denounce Trump's views (ie, they believe there's actually a significant number of voters that they could alienate if they denounce Trump's comments.) It's a touchy subject for a lot of conservative voters. Recall Mitt Romney's attempts to tip-toe around the issue last time around with his inane comments regarding "self-deportation." Jeb Bush's Latino-friendly credentials aren't in doubt, but how many of the other candidates can say the same? -k It's wrong for them not to address it. Trump has been provided a huge platform to throw out his insane comments. His comments should be addressed given that he is 2nd in the polls. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
kimmy Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 It's wrong for them not to address it. Trump has been provided a huge platform to throw out his insane comments. His comments should be addressed given that he is 2nd in the polls. Nobody has to, but somebody ought to say something before it turns into an elephant in the room. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
WestCoastRunner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Nobody has to, but somebody ought to say something before it turns into an elephant in the room. -k Can't wait for the gong show in the upcoming debates. Get out the popcorn. Edited July 1, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Nobody has to, but somebody ought to say something before it turns into an elephant in the room. Why ? That would only draw more attention to it. Did another candidate apologize for Obama's bigoted remarks about guns and religion ? Nope. Edited July 1, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 It wasn't wrong...Trump can say whatever the hell he wants. It's a free country ! And I bet you would vote for him eh... Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) Why ? That would only draw more attention to it. Did another candidate apologize Obama's bigoted remarks about guns and religion ? Nope.What comments were those? And it's not about apologizing. Edited July 1, 2015 by WestCoastRunner Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 What comments were those? And it's not about apologizing. Look it up....two elections ago. How many Canadian onlookers insisted that another candidate condemn his remarks ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 Look it up....two elections ago. How many Canadian onlookers insisted that another candidate condemn his remarks ? You brought it up. Provide a cite. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 (edited) You brought it up. Provide a cite. No....you didn't say please...anybody who followed the 2008 U.S. presidential election knows the "cite". Edited July 1, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
WestCoastRunner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 No....anybody who followed the 2008 U.S. presidential election knows the "cite". Besides the point. When you are asked for a cite you provide one. Those are the rules. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 Besides the point. When you are asked for a cite you provide one. Those are the rules. Nonsense...report and ignore. Those are the rules. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
On Guard for Thee Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 Nonsense...report and ignore. Those are the rules. No, thats what to do when the rules are broken. Quote
WestCoastRunner Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 Nonsense...report and ignore. Those are the rules. So in other words you can't back up those comments Obama made. Quote I love to see a young girl go out and grab the world by the lapels. Life's a bitch. You've got to go out and kick ass. - Maya Angelou
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 So in other words you can't back up those comments Obama made. I don't have to....they are common knowledge, and now a permanent fixture in American political lore. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 In general, I don't think American political candidates will take advice from across the border anyway. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Derek 2.0 Posted July 1, 2015 Report Posted July 1, 2015 And Jeb just provided his tax returns for the last 33 years, the most ever for someone running for President, showing how is became wealthy........much like how he released several months back all his emails, some embarrassing, from his time as Governor of Florida.....I liked this part: When I entered the Governor’s office, I declined to take the state pension - $28,730 per year that I would’ve started to receive this year - because I wanted to put my money where my mouth was on fixing the state budget and restoring fiscal responsibility. Quote
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